Terell Kirby

After Leo’s latest video on paradox, I am starting to see the recurring theme of taking frequent jabs at the Church of Science (I give it a name like this because science is a worldview and can turn into dogma). I would like to hear from Leo and others if they feel the institution of science is the only thing that stands in front of mass human awakening to God. To me, it is surely the case. However, how do we deconstruct something that is critical to our survival as humans? Isn’t it a slim to zero chance the Church of Science will ever get overthrown, leading to a new regime of God realized beings to emerge as the rulers of the Kingdom of Heaven? Science is mainstream, and we all know how much collective ego backlash occurs when going against the mainstream. I now see why Leo harps on psychedelics, going up again a monster like the materialist paradigm requires extreme measures if we are talking mass scale awakening , traditional methods like yoga and meditation has no chance against science and institutions/cultural norms it influences. @Leo Gura you are going up against Goliath, is it realistic to call you David?

Well..the praise for God is the praise for yourself. Unless you deeply understand this, your words have no substance.

@RendHeaven hmm, Begs the question does science come from the human, or does the human come from science?

I can sense this has become your life’s work, which is admirable. History shows us that the Catholic doctrine is responsible for many persecutions, executions and wars that ensued to maintain its power. Are you prepared for the Church of Science to direct the same kinds of energy towards you as you are pursuing its reform. Very true, and you are correct about it being a collective effort. We can infuse God realization and the deconstruction of materialism in so many creative ways (writing, art, business, etc). Leo is taking the most direct approach, which tends to warrant the most backlash. Can do nothing but respect that trait of him. It’s brave

People are losing their shit due to WhatsApp, Facebook and Instagram being down. I like to look at things from a spiritual perspective, hopefully the powers that be are using this bring forth toxic aspects of humans and their relationship to social media.

@BenG very true. That’s a solid way to look at it. Yes, deconstructing science doesn’t mean the end to the materialistic paradigm.. but try to tell a loyal scientist that lol. Hell, even people who champion themselves as a spiritual are in denial how important the materialist way of living life is to critical to their survival. They’ll even deny that they have survival needs whilst engaging in survival.

Well…perceptual filters are infinite. There’s no way to transcend perceptions. All perceptual filters, at their essence/core, are the same…which is the imaginations of God. The scientific/materialistic filter is structured in a way where it prevents you from seeing reality from any other filter because it claims it’s the only filter there is (similar to religious dogma). Science itself doesn’t do this, but the human ego does because it provides protection. Science cuts favors for humans, and humans cut favors for science in helping one another to survive. It’s almost like a codependent relationship.

Does mass legalization and use of psychedelics need to happen to speed this process up? I feel like this is a foundational aspect to Leo’s work at this point. We have to consider how dense and inflexible the mind is for most materialist if we’re looking at this from a systems view.

Not sure if I agree wholeheartedly with this. Science is what tells us we are humans in the first place. Im not doing that at all. Science is critical to human survival, but taking it as the absolute truth is where it gets sticky. Science = a perceptual filter.

Wanting to bully a materialist is already bad. This is taking the teachings and turning it into dogma.

You can also contemplate life sober, tends to be more scarier...which is why we seek drugs in the first place to soften the blow.

Perserverance.

@Leo Gura How is the Patreon branch of Actualized.org going? I'm an advocate of your channel, and thought signing up would be a great way to pay it forward for all the juicy insights, and to keep your momentum going. Has Actualized.org found any real benefit from Patreon subscribers?

You should do whatever is best for your life situation. For some folks, handling finances/career prior to enlightenment is best...sometimes vice versa. Sometimes you are able to work on both at the same time, even infuse them together so they work synergistically (my path). This is not a nuanced perspective...one shoe size doesn't fit everyone. Be careful about giving simple minded advice.

If you have some spare cash, the Actualized.org Life Purpose course is well worth purchasing. It helped me out a lot when I had similar questions. Now I am very clear on what my purpose is after taking the course.

3 joints..damn.

@Thought Art That’s awesome! I was a hardcore stoner for some time, as I got deeper into spirituality, I found no need to blaze 6-7 days out of the week. I thought pot and spirituality went hand in hand, and it does in a sense where it opens your mind…but it can turn into an addiction, and ultimately a blocker to personal and spiritual development.

Love the digital art you shared. I respect your honesty. Fear is a natural result of dissolving the ego. Learn to label it as such, and know that it is illusory.

God realization includes liberation from ego...specifically.

Why are you expecting change in the behavior of humans with awakening? Sounds like Zen devilry. You should not be looking for humans to change, you should be looking at your judgements of them to change.

Lol this entire moment is also imaginary.

Contemplating this. Since I am God, I am here to serve myself. It sounds selfish, but once the ego is dissolved - serving the lower self transforms into serving the Higher Self. What does it mean to serve the Higher self? For me, it means making good use of one's life. The term "good" is relative of course, but you can think of it as your unique life purpose that's grounded in living a fulfilling life for you personally, but also being of service to entire cosmos and it's inhabitants (in your own special way). Since God is Existence, and you are God.. Serving God = serving Yourself = serving Existence

Lol i am happy for you, this work allows you to be more authentic about your wants in life. As far as the question of God being bisexual, since God is formless..it can't be subjected to any language used to describe sexual preference or any other human attribute. Bi-sexuality is merely one expression of God, out of infinite expressions. God loves bisexuality, as well as every other sexual preference. It also is all expressions of sexuality, it is also You

I sense some resentment in this question. When you awaken, you realize that no one is responsible for pain other than you. Even further, you learn to love pain just as much as anything else. Demonizing pain is not God-like.

Gods love for you is synonymous to your love for yourself. Nothing is separate from you, looking for love outside of yourself will lead to suffering.