Terell Kirby

Haven’t contemplated the pre modern yet. whats interesting is modern is correct in that there is a “universal” truth, but it’s not at the level of abstract concepts and belief systems. It needs to acknowledge relativity to go beyond this.

Timely quote given the recent episode on Post Modernism. Points out how being stuck in endless philosophical abstractions and caught up in relativity, can get lead one to being out of touch with the realities of human survival.

Modern: It is, despite what I think it is. Post modern: I think it is, therefore it is.

@Vynce .. maybe Kanye is the stable one

Amazing. And if all political pundits and commentators used this study to ground what's included in the news cycle, we'd be a much different place right now.

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High perspective: It's good to understand the linguistic maneuvers and style of speech of demagogues-maneuvers that they are not even conscious of. Good analysis of how Trump's style of speech sways the ignorant masses: Feature: non partisan, objective, based in science/empirical analysis, comes from a place of deep study & expertise.

This is a great lesson for all of us- Finding that it’s important to be aware of how my past trauma and childhood experiences are being projected onto others I am angry or resentful at. It is extremely challenging in the heat of passion to be aware of such things. Thank you @Leo Gura & all the mods for all that you do for the forum ! I get tons out of it.

Trump is a poster child for low perspectives but the bottom of the barrel. Believe it or not-there are even low perspectives that are way more evolved than Trumps BS.

Low perspective: Although very articulate and thoughtful, Jordan Peterson doesn’t fully acknowledge Christ and the historical narrative of Christ as a social construct. Makes appeals to belief systems without acknowledging relativity and subjectivity of interpretation. Feature: absence sense of construct awareness, absence of context awareness, dismisses relativity of perspective.

I remember when I’d used to be so pressed for Leo to release more content- now it’s so much I’m finding it hard to keep up .

I’ll be 3 years sober from alcohol next week. Best decision I made in my life. Wouldn’t be able to get all the juice from Actualized teachings without it.

Agree-My thing is-If the price of eggs moved you to vote for a neo facist with an anti democratic bend, then it’s just as worse epistemic rot from social media algorithms and populist group think. Both actions, and rationale behind them, are politically irresponsible on the same level of coming from a low perspective.

The bald officer is world class at giving this offender a clear run down of the law (before putting her in cuffs):

Low perspective: Rachid Hammami's egregious straw man against Isalm. Completely ignores historical context, and is full of bias. This is classic ego projection, a refusal to take seriously how one's worldview might be self deceived. Feature: Gross over-generalizations, Hypocrisy, double standards, cherry picking historical facts for confirmation bias, straw manning (x1000).

Lmaoo

High perspective: Jordan Peterson on friendship. I miss this version of him-before he got caught up in the intellectual dark web: Feature: growth-oriented, facilitates development, practical, uses real life examples, clear & concise.

Example of how US democratic institutions are impacted by low perspectives corrupted by post truth politics: https://www.npr.org/2025/01/24/nx-s1-5250264/unemployment-rate-cpi-inflation-census-bureau-labor-statistics Features: disregards facts, does not value expertise/expert analysis or data, post truth in sense making, lack of systems thinking, magical thinking in place of objective facts and raw data.

Low perspective: This guy assumes he can deconstruct Capitalism in a two minute video without falling into self deception, partiality and bias. Feature: lacks nuance/evolutionary thinking, doesn't consider historical context, black and white thinking, uses straw-man arguments with no awareness of broader context.

I’d increases in one variable decreases the others, vice versa

@Leo Gura I'm glad you created this thread-not much participation (i think due to actually having to take the time contemplate this stuff)- but it's opened up so much- thanks !

High perspective: Bishop Mariann Budde addresses Trump during sermon. Noticing the level of calm, cool and collected energy she has when expressing her worldview in a non dogmatic, non confrontational way. Feature: Centeredness, emotionally mature, non reactive, thoughtful, empathetic, expansive circle of concern, compassion.

Seems like a blanket statement-what examples do you have? Leo's teachings have taught me how to make nuance distinctions between survival and Truth-which has done wonders in making me more intelligent. Survival is done on a spectrum, some of it is more ego based than others. The point is not to demonize survival, but also to not bullshit ourselves into thinking survival has anything to do with Truth & Goodness. All of this assumes you value things like Truth, Goodness & Intelligence .. but it's totally okay not to.

Low perspective: pickup coach expresses value system- under the premise that only losers date a women who are not at least 10 years younger. Feature: materialistic, hyper masculine, takes its value system as objective (what’s true for it is true for everybody-under all circumstances).

Low perspective: classic Trump accusing Dems of burning LA to the ground for political reasons. Feature: Gaslighting, disregard for facts/science, conspiratorial thinking, conflating subjective interpretation for objective facts/reality.