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@Loba I think op is just expressing what every guy in history have thought of at least once in their lives. It’s like how girls fantasize about being princesses or royalty, it’s just that guys are more straight to the point and all about function. guys would say: “why do girls like to be served by a fleet of servants and have 100 drawers of jewelry ? what a tasteless life!” miss understanding that female thrive in their own way in social roles self appreciation.

Theres meaning in pleasure and pleasure in meaning though. it’s often not possible to get both the way you are describing, but it’s completely possible if some conditions where meet.

Aha, beautifully said👍

Just thought I’d post this here, this guy is explaining what I have : (short vid less than 3 min) https://www.reddit.com/r/costochondritis/comments/w87gjy/please_upvote_so_every_one_can_finally_be_cured/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x the backpod he shows in the video works for me, but it’s very slow for recovery. If you recognize what this condition is about please let me know.

Yeah, please? I don’t really understand what evidence would qualifies a turquoise thinker, but any insights I guess would be good.

@Leo Gura didn't you in one of your 5-meo videos say that "if the buddha had Sony this is what kind of video he would be recording"? were you not having a god awakening in that trip?

What does it mean to integrate the spiral into one’s self ? Isn’t the goal of SD is that it’s clears any misunderstandings about others, who may have different values (lower or higher in the spiral from the point of perspective) and instead work as a sense-making tool to enhance cooperation among people ?(especially for companies since I guess this was it’s original purpose) So stage yellow will theoretically want to create schools, companies, businesses, societies etc, that uses the model, which in it’s turn will unite people with different values in actuality. your saying that turquoise would go even farther than that ? So what's mentioned above is not what you're suggesting to be “uniting the spiral in the real world” ?

I've watched these two episodes and what you say in your posts resonates with me, however, I don't really know where to go or what to do from there? I understand that science is making models and it will never grasp true reality this way...Is the ultimate philosophy of life is to understand reality experientially ?

how? you can't just make a mass of land disappear out of the face of the earth.

Why no ? There’s a book on Leo’s book list about this: how introverts are looked at as having something wrong about them, the book is about busting that myth and if I remember correctly, about how to best deal with introverted children. generally I think introverts get stereotyped and judge heavily if they don’t show social traits or try to jump in like extrovert do - I would’ve said “at least in the US” but I’ve experienced that also in other cultures.

came to the forum to speak about this topic: it seems like knowing how to talk, joke and throw playful comments meme is something like a second nature to some people. to me it feels like"how the hell are they doing this?! how do the find the right thing to say/put in a chat?!" it seems to me like they have a plan or like they rehearse this shit sometimes! but Idk, would love if Leo can talk about this more, as he say he's transcended being an introvert or something like that.

call me a reactionary as mush as you’d like. This type of speech is a mirror of how ISIS/extreme muslim movement leaders speak. it might appear to you like the politics and the movies your used to, big bold talk just to grab attention and increase views, yet this is exactly what got young men and women misguided and brainwashed into raiding countries and establish a khalif “ in order to go back to the golden age of islam” form someone form that part of the world who has been driven outside of their county because of this crap, this is alarming ! Idk it you people in the west are not used to seeing this or you’re too in your head to realize — possibly you’ve had a normal run as a socity for too long to realize the danger of this, but this is what terrorist start at, this is the forefront — you all better pay attention and take this serious. this is similar to in-sighting jihad, nothing good comes out of this.

fascism is rising in places like Europe, Turkey, India, Russia, some part of Japan I heard and who knows where else.. One would think that the US has it's particular problems and culture wars and that's why it's having this phenomenon arise, but why is it also arising in all of these other countries like this ?

What deep things are you talking about? I followed JP when he first emerged and seen most of his lectures, yes what he teaches is valid but in this instance he’s just over reacting. If he closes his eyes, sight out the negative shit and just stop preching for a while he’ll be in a lot better place. I would defend JP, but you know very well he’s just hard headed and won’t take a break/take it easy on himself.

(Don’t know what his health issues are) Don’t think so, it’s not his time, it’s a very slim chance that he’s going ro find a way to appreciate stage green. Essentially his political, religious and most basic views about life are at odds with the new green. The kind of world view he grow up with is: they are commies who are going to destroy society the government and eventually the world. Good luck convincing the Palestinies that the isralies where terrorized too - it’s this bad. Poor guy, not hating on him.

I think he has grounded his own life and having meaning/a reason to continue on living in the bible, as he holds it as the highest teachings. Idk what the context of Antifa/what they are talking about is all about, but the postmodern values the young generation has is basically deconstructing/questioning everything and all 'meaning' reaching a conclusion that many of the things society have held meaningful like race, religion,gender etc is meaning-less, just a construct, and that's what JP is reacting badly against. He's witnessing his whole reasons to live in the current world/his life work in psychology(I'm guessing?) being ridiculed by by the young generation. which is enough to make anyone go crazy.

Unpack this ? The whole universe is not actually there? I doesn’t help to be straight to the point when theres a lot of room for interpretation; what if i’m imagining a flat earth? Which imagination would be more true?

I think I read some where that they are like the oracles of ancient grace, they can be like a hint towards the right direction/to the what you should do in your life, it depends on you the receiver. think about it, wisdom isn’t something rational that you can explain with numbers, and in our current times there it is only sane to rely on people who’ve studied theories, for example a Financial advisor to give you advice —but only in their field. Who are you gonna rely on when it comes to general life advice or making a life choice generally ? Tarot cards kind of gives you an idea to meditate on. Osho believes in tarot cards, he has a tarot card setThat I use sometimes for fun. I think it’s magical thinking, and superstition if its taken too literally, as green turquoise and purple seems to believe in them, and those stages have magical thinking which is why they relate to each other better than other stages.

I can remember magical-thinking in my childhood, but what would mirror tribalism in a child mindset?

@Leo Gura since we have an new section in the forum, I thought i’d ask if you are planning on making a video about shamanism and/or the teachings of Don Juan. I’m interested because non of my trips I have had have any relation to what the books mentioned, and I initially bought the books following what you wrote in the book description: that you have validated through your own experiences with psychedelics, that those supernatural events in the book matches your experiments. the books mentions weird creatures, colorful auras, an egg shaped form that humans take, among other things … For anyone else who’s read the books : have you had similar trips? Any idea how to interpret it ? Whats your opinion about the validity of these books?

could you explain more? do you have a trustworthy source that I can learn about this? not sure if I should look into it since your saying this knowledge is for shamans, but I have an interest in understanding things outside of my paradigm.

My first andrey trakovsky movie! Great movie Yup very true, it will make you mediative if you allow it.

interesting, I haven't had that intent before, I just sorta take the dose and see what it does. I have read in Ram Dass books he mentions as one of his most shocking acid trips on a high dose that he had manifest things that he though was as real as anything during these trips. also Stanislav Grof mentions that he've had a OBE on acid. some people claim seen wild shit on acid, I'm not sure if it's the dose their minds or intention as you say.

@Leo Gura you are right, I think I miss interpreted the description, it does say you've found that the spiritual wisdom is dead-on accurate. I took that as some of these experiences where true, but also for its very high rating in the psychedelics section, I though they would be more than novels. my intuition guided me to believe that you've added them for the wisdom in them that's not very verbal or can't be expressed verbally, in this case I agree that they have profound lessons, some of which I have had delivered to me form my own background without me knowing. still I have one more question: since you also have a section for paranormal/super-natural, I don't understand why you include these books if you're approach is very direct and non-dual, is there any benefits in reading these books other than learning new stuff and having a curious/open-mind that you believe necessitate having them on the booklist?

of course it is, you mean to say that bridges and buildings are not a sign of a more complex, more capable mind? what you are talking about is called the pre-trans fallacy, ken wilber talks about it here :