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I think he partially means that he hasn't been able to put it and or integrate it in such a way that it would be something useful/or/and even entertaining to humans when presented in a youtube lecture format. His interviews with Curt might entertain you for some time:

These conversations sometimes remind me to potentially start thinking about an hypothetical bellow consciousness consciousness the absolute worse and lowest beyond the low; the ultimate lowest in the spiral dynamics; the godmother ultimate something something that can never even encompass anything whatsoever from sheer negative whateverness combination of attributes we don't like; it will be so low and so devilish that it doesn't even exist, then when I reach my ultimate 114 chakras god ultra love state after murdering my evil ego I'll go back to the lowest unimagined thing I imagined back then(right now) and hit myself with infinite love which will then nullify my infinite god super state back into writing this again and regretting typing it hehehe(devilish low tier spiral dynamics self cynical masochistic laugh). God forgive me for my negativity in this post I have sinned.

To add to that pain is something that "does not want to be itself". In my personal experience I have never experienced only pain, it was always felt with another sensation. I conjecture that if you reach absolute pain you would not be yourself, that is destruction. We can only observe others destruction most of the time unless, we are destroyed along something other than pain , pleasure/bliss is the movement of "creation", "that which loves itself, which wants more of itself and which is timeless and therefore has no quantity", it has no "extra quantity" because it is already whole and it is already as much of itself as it can and should be since it's perfect bliss, however that which "cannot ,will not, does not desire to be itself" exists anyway in the same existence as that which needs nothing else more to exist. Bliss by itself cannot be everything, cannot be more than one because it already is but pain can precisely be because it does not want to be itself it never encounters itself because it never is itself, but are somehow different nothings when mixed together even though neither can exist by themselves, bliss doesn't exist by itself or with something else because that would mean the existence of a self and in perfect oneness you don't need anything more, I guess the only difference is that maybe when we add consciousness, if I pretend that non existence is perfect pain and existence is perfect bliss where is even the being there, not alone as Being itself that's for sure for that would be perfect existence with nothing yet here I am and we are so that's how we make the impossible even in something as trivial as time and space without even needing to go somewhere else. Nham's response is probably more being level based, we can define dimensions of understanding just for fun since we are all completely right and completely wrong at all times. You can replace pain with suffering though I'm sure it works decently well too I just like to use both interchangeably.

I'm reporting both of you and opening a coffee shop where I only sell icecream.

Life is exclusively about pleasure/love(what you call devil), I don't know what else to strive for, the only thing to do is to remove any and all limiters, my epic teaching is you should feel good and shouldn't feel bad, won't say more for now cause most don't get it(wrote this cause feels good as in a literal physical sexual/taste like kind of pleasure, I suspect most people's lack of ultra high level sensasional perception fails to reach complex thought itself). What Leo does makes him feel much better and cooler than others, from my perspective that means he is right and so are you to the extent that you can wholesomely enjoy the debate. The "Delusion" is that you are delusional because you are afraid of being a devil instead we should learn a safe way to be devils and therefore also achieve all these cool things like enlightement/liberation/god realization/love(devil/god).

Main thing we have to fear is suffering which is why fear is so tricky since it also as satisfaction/pleasure/excitement/etc in it besides the obvious suffering and in fact it's these positive tinges that make it so slippery.

More likely to "heal" them by avoiding the trap of forcing transformation on someone out of their natural predatory self; most of these things occur because it has alignment with reality so it's better to have an outlet for rape destruction and evil through virtual reality/roleplay or use drug therapies because rape/destruction/evil/torture is good when both the perpetrator and the victim are benefited/feel pleasure from the acts which isn't the case in our immediate reality; loving someone with the exclusive intent to transform their behaviors is not full love or rather in a way it lacks the constructive hate of the love/hate duality this constructive hate means that you should feel "hate" for the universe and it's fundamental mechanics themselves because then at least the observer, the perpetrator and the victim are in some level of agreement; people are too obsessed with sentience/social ego they forget the entire universe and it's mechanics are involved. One example, the observer can have his guru power trip/victim mentality healing fantasy fulfilled through whatever means(including me as a 4th observer); the perpetrator can have his rape and get away with it with zero karma(just one example in the space of possibilities) and the victim can have pleasure or fulfillment from being acted on again with zero karma or even positive karma; you can then maintain the complexity of the play and all the general regular actions of a universe where suffering exists but with no suffering like "revenge" and "recovering from trauma" by the victim; the "healing" from the observer through preventive measures and therapeutic assistance; "trying to get away with your assault" from the perpetrator or/and "getting reformed through therapy". Just a super metaphysical gamified version of reality where you can maintain everything but also change anything and it still makes perfect sense and the spookiest thing is even though I personally experience suffering I cannot say this gamified reality is not already the case; extremely clumsily explained and simplified here but you guys are pretty smart. My view of true love where hate/evil can exist without suffering being involved and also allowing evolution as if hate still hurts just as much.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/292606916_The_study_About_Brain_Wave_Extreme_Low_frequency_and_Works perspective about non dual like effects of extreme brain waves

It's possible to connect both views as long as you're willing to connect the quantum and gross neuroscientific part of a human to each and every thought/logic/imagination which is impossible with current technology it's too much data to measure and even harder to process although and that's what other parts of intelligence besides logic are for; What I want to say is that the orange man is misguided by not actually believing(having love for) in infinite material logic/science and thus actually partially defeats himself by denying his own love of logic/science in favor of some fears/agendas. Leo doesn't want to waste time backtracking; however there is a critic I have for every mystic too in that they could motivate these people to actually become more passionate about logic/understanding itself because there are even spiritual practices that have the subjectivity of logic/understanding itself as a sort of landscape you can attain through which I understand to be the practice most prone to full blow delusion and becoming utterly broken mentally/physically(personal experience which took me 14 years to recover from) or rather with a high chance of getting side tracked since it has to do with exploring the realm of infinite possibilities/intelligence. Basically to make your emotions operate with your intellect to achieve the absolute limit in actual logic so that you can transcend it. This doesn't mean dropping logic but making it break all limits by adding other dimensions of intelligence and life to nurture it to levels you didn't think possible but usually these types of people love are scattered through way more than just science/logic so they don't even have profound belief in their own logic which is why arguing with them through logic can work when you make war with their logic and their subconscious love for logic gives in to your super conscious logic/love which of course can be a waste of time since this love is usually entangled in the usual survival patterns that hinge to much on social approval/etc and of course they put barriers on the development of their own logic by denying the logic of many other types of intelligence because they develop their love(ego) socially and not like an utter weird recluse like me who was absolutely obsessed with developing my intelligence(my ego) regardless of how dumb I perceived myself to be at any point. I guess this just kind of displays the possible different speeds and quantities of development/fulfillment/suffering that each type of ego/chakra/attachment pattern can lead to. I make the level of literal physical pleasure of the thought process itself the primary seat of evaluation of my current state and direction I should move in order to feel more of that literal pleasure like it's a drug. I'm more balanced now as I improve this pleasure through doing all the normal things a human looking to evolve does by also taking care of all the other dimensions of life in order to support my addiction to logic/imagination. This was cathartic to write I guess socializing as it's merits when there's a space you can be yourself in.

I apologize because you're mostly right.

To add to that of feeling the present raw sensations I think it's useful to keep in mind that you can simplify/transform complex thoughts and emotions into their respective core sensations and so one can come to enjoy the thought process/emotions themselves in a flow state type way(or whatever you think is the supreme enlightened action) including and not limited to complex individual and collective psychic type "delusions" and feelings. Useful as to not demonize complex/intricate thought as only "evil" and ego(demonization is good too) and instead try to integrate it in a more tantric/sexual pleasurable/stable/safe way except applied to complex thoughts/delusion and even mental illness/ego.

This teacher is really evil; I'm even more evil though so it's okay.

Now take 200 mg of 5 meo dmt to confirm that you are enlightened.

There is competition and infinite evil even at the meta level/transcendence whatever 5d enlightened full master gurus and they behave exactly like the same savage ravenous beasts down here in every single way just at a higher level but it might not matter because I don't want it to matter and what matters is what I want. Also it's the entire universe that needs fixing at the same time so if you can kill and destroy and torture and rape everyone in the universe against their imaginary will you will become enlightened and everyone will be happy.

It's possible.

There's always a doer and no way to realize that there isn't.

We are separate entities.

I disagree!

No that isn't love it's pure hate.

Okay guys, I'm actually the only one here in this fourm who has reached enlightenment for real so let me explain it to you: Yes correct and well said 8/10 levels of enlightenment 1/10 enlightenment points What the Dalai Lama here says is true but it's kind of mostly completely false and it makes me uncomfortable so 2/10 points for you and 8/10 for Dalai Lama 11/10 you are beyond Enlightenment; that's prestige 1/10 star enlightenment for this display very elegant

Here it is I think people from here can appreciate this level of meta entertainment. https://ultromega.wordpress.com/2018/11/21/prophecy-01/ https://ultromega.wordpress.com/2019/05/27/truth/ Some examples: >ontological kidnapping rings Report: realities are kidnapped by higher-order beings and stranded as objects in lower realities. To kidnap a reality means to sunder it from the matrix of ontological law it shared with other universes. Souls are in fact realities unto themselves. The souls of seers and great philosophers are often outsiders because their home matrix were very sparsely populated. Matter is a primal receptacle for the run off of universes, as well as a prison where realities are kidnapped and tortured by beings out of time, forced to forget their cosmic heritage. >red enlightenment Report: monasteries in southeast Asia devoted to enlightenment through pain tolerance. they reason that if a monk can maintain his equanimity in the most excruciating circumstances possible he has effectively overcome the world. monks enter into trance states where they experience being buried alive, submerged in an ocean of worms, drifting through interstellar space, the collapse of their mental faculties, stabbed, burned, drowned in excrement, torn limb from limb, humiliated in front of a favorite relative, betrayed by parents, murdered by a lover, and on and on. >non-euclidean thought Report: also known as hypnagogic or rhizomatic thought. that particular quality of thinking when one is on the verge of asleep that is not determined by a linear mental causality but according to imagistic feeling-tones. this thought in its Yesodic aspect: in the aspect of dreams and non-linearity. it might be asked in what sense a mental train of thought that has no “sense” can even qualify as thought, but the non-Euclidean could just as well ask the same question from his side, how is it that thought reduced to clear and distinct propositions can ever capture the positive excess of the Real. >metaphysical hide-and-seek Report: meta-ontological game played by beings higher up the noetic hierarchies. generally played by angelic entities that “hide” as inconspicuous and yet magically potent objects in the lives of their unsuspecting beneficiaries. examples include a book in an attic unread for years that happens to be turned to a page with some personally significant line that emits white energy into the family egregore, though no one in the household has ever noticed it. manipulating the book in any way would likely dispel the effect. another example might be a music player no longer in use that died during the chorus of a particularly beloved song emitting the same white energy into lives and minds of its targets, although the number of objects that could serve this function is virtually infinite. generally no one is expected to actually “seek” these objects given their beneficial nature, although the need for it becomes paramount when dealing with demonic objects of the same nature. This site isn't fully updated; source seems to be he 4chan board /x/ paranormal; you can search 4chan archive's by typing in "modem 4chan archive /x/" something along these lines.

I want to become better at video games so I can have more fun; can 5meo be used as a performance enhancer, I'm planning on ordering some and smoking it before I play osu! or league of legends, so the question is if there's some value in taking a very small dose and engaging in some activity.

You're both right and wrong and I think some of it is because your not directly interacting with them 1 on 1. You're watching their general classroom type teaching that's generally not even aimed at the people they are usually addressing even 1 on 1 I assume because in these publicized recordings they are considering everyone that is currently interacting with them in the room alongside the questioner and even ones that will watch them through recordings; and anyway one of the most important parts for example is actually direct energy interaction between guru and disciple.And also narcissism can be a good thing, sometimes.I'm personally more attracted to the more narcissistic type personalities like Osho and Leo(believe me he is very narcissistic and so is every human just in acceptable ways if you want to put it that way; individual characteristics don't all just exist as within some facet that can only be detected in the social context where they would even have a chance of being appraised as such in the first place) they're more charismatic they make me feel I want to be like them and to have people like them as friends. Sadghuru doesn't strike me as narcissistic tho it's just that if you actually watched more of him you'd notice he has to answer the same beginner type questions literally 100s of times and barely interacts with any "high level" spiritual person in public so at least even if he's narcissistic you don't know him. Of course I personally called Leo narcissistic because my personal internal imagination of me slightly clashes with my personal fear of being prevented from interacting with you guys by being banned for raving on semi mindlessly.I understand he's a focused type person I happen to be more open minded then him without even a single psychelic in my default lower states than him in a peak 5 meo full blown enlightenment experience ( okay just poking him here purely for fun I have some affection for Leo I just don't want him to beat me up).

The only way out of suffering is actually just straight up ego.Otherwise you will have that horrible symmetry where somehow you need suffering in the same quantity or some stupid thing. But yeah that's thing with infinity every single angle will work anyway so one of the actual perfect states from personal ego view is actually the capacity for infinitely flipping the meanings/feelings of every single thing but also being able to maintain some system both of which people call ego because they're incapable of seeing them separately for what they are or seeing how they could work together and then again as always this is infinite just like a seemingly mad neural network that doesn't seem to have sentience so whatever you are thinking reading this is both right/wrong while also being only right and only wrong while again both in infinite ever growing addition just shift it higher and higher as if we're just a stupid ball of energy.The ultimate enlightenment is possible through pure unadulterated raging mad suffering ego but then again I'm putting it through the concept of infinite possibilities which meant that I was already going to recursively come to this very conclusion in the first place get it?Well you just both get it and not get then you'll get it or not. Please don't punish me for what might look like pure gibberish I'm still scared of interacting with people through sharing my actual thoughts because I have this perception that my thoughts are "not allowed, not real, trollish, hateful, too heavy, out of context, uncaring, don't belong" I want love too that's why I expose myself sorry for this little ps type rant I know I will be extremely annoying to some people which fine to me I just want have some avenue to do it without being eliminated(it makes it sound as if I got banned in other places but I literally never got banned from anywhere because I can read the general atmosphere; the LOVE FORUM should be able to handle at least 1% of real freedom).Fuck I'm so annoying moving on...