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This is not the case anymore. 51% of American men who are 18-29 years old, are single today, and that number will probably continue to increase in the years to come. Boys haven’t been raised properly for the last 30+ years, neither by their parents or society, and now we see the consequences of it. Women don’t find todays men manly enough. This is a very sensitive topic, so it’s not easy to fix. I’ve been attacked on this forum for talking about it. Women who talk about it publicly probably receive death threats…

Your appearace is definitely not the problem. It’s more than good enough.

It’s Aspergers syndrome. Looks matter, but it’s not what attraction is «all about», as you first claimed. You should have met a friend of mine. He’s really ugly, but he’s a chick magnet and has had high quality girlfriends all his adult life. He’s funny as fuck though!

No, it’s not. I’m good looking enough to get results on dating apps, but I went through hell before I finally got my first lay at the age of 27.

I second this. I don't think there really is any other magical solution to this problem. Over the last three years, my results with women have improved. This year, for the first time, I was in the position where I had to dump a rather attractive girl, after dating her for three months. What this has done to my self-esteem is pretty amazing. These days I experience things that would have broken me down and made me super bitter towards women a year ago, but now it just rolls off me.

This is where I'm a little envious of you guys who live in countries with large populations. Here you have to be pretty careful about your reputation. A friend of mine loves to approach girls during daytime. Even though he's very good at it, one girl he approached found him sketchy enough to post a picture of him in a private Facebook group named "Girls on Tinder," which is a group where girls warn each other about dangerous men. This group has thousands of members, so it's actually kind of hard for him to find a girl who isn't a member herself or has a close friend or relative who is.

In my experience, you can’t even admit to a girl that you had an unhappy childhood without losing her if you haven’t had sex with her yet. You’re pretty much doomed if you open up about inceldom and pickup, especially if it happens early on.

I’m just a little too curious to let this go. @Shodburrito I saw you were talking about Sweden again in another thread (which got locked). What are your thoughts on Sweden being the fourth happiest country in the world? Doesn’t quite fit your picture of «immigration ruining western countries» now, does it?

They do have problems attracting women. This is part of the reason why they can’t handle rejection, which often leads them to commit such things.

Yeah, when you show such gratitude towards people trying to help you, I'm sure you'll be flooded with advice...

I’m sorry if my post hurt you. You wrote a post where you definitely had a point to some extent. I presented another perspective where I exaggerated things a bit. It's not worse than that!

What we are seeing today is a highly repulsive generation of man-children who stayed inside, played video games, watched anime and barely developed social skills (compared to women) during the time they were supposed to grow up and become men.

@Someone here Since you don't have anyone in your life to give you feedback and help develop social skills yet, let me give you a start: TMI. Oversharing like this is creepy and it can make you really unlikable.

I know you prefer to do things solo. It’s because of that you have no social skills now. Time has come to give that preference the middle finger. And just to be clear: You don’t have to do the actual approaching with your wings.

Picking up men at a mall in the homophobic world we live in… You have some balls, I’ll give you that! Find yourself some wingmen. I bet you can find someone at a bootcamp or online if you live in a large enough city. I did.

It's not easy. In this kind of environment, it's almost impossible for some of us to get any results.

I think this is spot on. There's also another problem with approaching too many during daytime. A friend of mine has become so good at approaching during daytime that he's now actually struggling to get results. The reason is, especially in a country like Norway (where you're not supposed to bother strangers), you really don't wanna come off as "that guy who approaches girls during daytime". If you seem too comfortable with it, girls will probably assume that they are not the first one you've approached that day, and that sure won't make them feel special and it might make you come off as a weirdo. Being shy can, on the contrary, be a huge advantage here. Especially if you're shy and confident at the same time, like it's not something you do often, but you just had to do it because she was that special.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/07/drinking-coffee-may-reduce-risk-of-suicide-by-50/ «Drinking several cups of coffee daily appears to reduce the risk of suicide in men and women by about 50 percent» https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/decades-of-research-shows-coffee-makes-you-healthier-happier-but-if-you-want-to-boost-your-energy-level-memory-theres-a-7-day-catch.html «Coffee can reduce your risk of cancer up to 20 percent, your risk of type 2 diabetes by 30 percent, and your risk of Parkinson's disease by 30 percent. A study published in Circulation found that coffee can reduce the risk of stroke by 20 percent. A study of over 260,000 people conducted by the NIH found that people who drank four or more cups of coffee a day were nearly 10 percent less likely to become depressed than those who drank none.»

My best friend is a hot woman, and she was beaten up on Friday because she rejected a guy. She woke up in the emergency room with a concussion and stitches in her scalp. The guy who did it got away, just like most guys who commit rape. "Simps" sure didn't help her... If some pretty girls really are toxic, maybe things like this might help explain?

How is this better to say than for example that jews or black people are universally toxic? It's just as far from truth in my experience. I've been a bitter and hateful person in past, but I've never in my adulthood felt the need to shout at strangers in public. My advice would be to seek professional help.

Sexual intimacy is under «Love and belonging», which is the third level. Sex in the lowest level doesn’t need to be with another person.

I'm 29 years old and in a period of my life where almost all I think about and really want to do, is to date or hook up with girls. I've probably been out at night 100 times now, but I’ve never ever got a single result (like a date or sex). It doesn’t matter if I’m drinking or am sober, alone or with friends, not even when me and my friends go out to celebrate my birthday and I’m at the center of attention, it all leads to the same: No girls seem to find me attractive enough, and if some do, you can be sure that a girlfriend of hers will do everything in her power to ruin it! This leads to that time and again when I go out, I end up being very bitter and self-destructive. This affects my relationships in a very negative way. I actually get pretty good results with dating apps, so I guess my looks are pretty good. These apps are absolutely terrible for mental health though. In addition, the girls I match with are usually around my own age or older, so they are more serious and ready to settle down than I am. I’ve also actually had success with daygame, but I’ve discovered that Norway simply is a too small country for it and it’s too much against the cultural norms here. It puts my reputation in too much danger. So, should I go all in and try again and again until I get my first result, or should I just give up? PS: I have Asperger’s. My hearing ability is also pretty bad at places with loud music, which also for sure doesn’t make it easier. Neither that I don’t dance, even though I've spent a lot of time trying to learn to be comfortable with it, both drunk and sober.

Why give up before you’ve even given it a real shot?

I live in Oslo. I think it's a pretty great city for daygame. I did way too much spam approaching in 2021 and 2022 though, so there were a couple of girls I approached several times, unfortunately. For several reasons I've actually decided to quit nightgame and make a comeback with daygame. It simply fits me so much better. In 2023 I had one single approach during daytime and I got a date with her. That's clearly something else than my results from nighttime! I'm not gonna spam approach like I used to, but approach one or two if I'm going out in Oslo. I also want to go more to the big cities in the near abroad, like Gothenburg, Stockholm and Copenhagen. There I can approach more without being too concerned about my reputation.

Why not? If you don’t do everything in your power to maximize your chances, you can't really complain if you don’t get any results. To dress better is the easiest and most effective way to become more attractive. If I go out and my clothes aren’t 10/10, girls will be really annoyed if I approach them. It’s a totally different world to live in compared to when I’m dressed nice.