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Use of psychedelic are being heavily advertised in this forum, that could within moments shoot you into infinity beyond any infinite experiences you'v ever had. Come on bro. A simple Zen meditation wont fuck with you at all.

Interesting 🤔 But if you're talking about accessing your higher consciousness beyond the mind it could be the fruit of other systems or traditions too. Like Lahiri Mahasaya's Kriya Yoga. You are not telling me that this is unique about Sadhguru's system are you? And did you experience it or just heard about it?

And some people thought otherwise and shared it in books and I took the knowledge and worked on myself and now have totally different experience of life. People are benefiting from such knowledges being shared in books.

All I'm saying is that mankind requires to go way deeper into spirituality. And eventually unification of consciousness. And this requires ancient knowledges to not be so restricted to public.

I know... But that could be the case with extreme potent practices like Kundalini yoga, but most of the practices are quite safe IMO. Like you sit and watch your breath and you may go crazy?

Yogananda brought Kriya Yoga to the west, that was the wish of Babaji, the yogi behind resurrection of these ancient teachings. If they had the same spirit as Sadhguru we wouldn't have access to these gold stuff we do now. That's my only critic of Sadhguru.

Mind elaborate what you're talking about?

@Leo Gura Sadhguru is too cautious regarding giving legit advanced practices, this is not a behavior of ancient gurus, some could say cause of larger crowd of disciples... but what do you think the actual reason could be?

Concidering his extremely large audience make sense to give people watered down practice just to be safe. I'm sure the story is different with people around him and his direct disciples. I just don't like his conservative spirit, to control and safe guard everything in one's spiritual path. In one of his videos he threatens his disciples saying if go on in the world and try to use your power to heal people or stuff like that I'd make sure you never ever taste again what spirituality is, something like this he said. But again since he got too many people to manage, this kind of behavior are expected.

If he toned down it then I assume this is not a powerful practice, definitely nowhere near potency of Kriya Yoga. General wellbeing, I understand that people who just look to have happy life or something would help them.

@Ishanga Could the program possibly more be potent than Kriya Yoga? I know it all depends on your level of mastery but anyway. Or it's just some energetic uplifting program that alows one to experience some blissful state?

If you're looking to ehance your life in a way you desire, you'd have take conscious control of your life experience, your life energy, if it requires doing certain practices everyday (which in many systems it does, Sadhguru's yoga system included) then do it, it's worth it. But depends on how much you want it and willing to work for it. Many people are too lazy or not that serious about it to go under any Yoga's systematic program for prolonged time.

Lol, Look what I've found😂

Pure observation dissolves the mind. You dont fight the mind, you let it sink in your light of consciousness. Have you tried self-enquiry? It's also intense approach of dissolving the mind into it's source by seeking the source of the thoughts. I didn't watch the Leo's vid but I'd suggest to watch those videos I've shared for you, it's gold information regarding what true meditation is. For me personally art, self-enquiry, meditation and yoga during course of years allowed me to gain some mastery over the mind (not God level mastery) in an extend that I can achieve still of the mind in any time I want by just sheer will power.

That's not the goal, that's not how you do meditation! This approach only brings frustration as its in the nature of the mind to wander. Watch these: Both part is important to help you understand the whole process.

Yeah, And modern human just don't care... chasing after hedonism as it's all that life offers, not giving a damn about understanding one's self and consciousness. At this century the work that people are doing regarding spreading yoga as a means to spread consciousness is nothing IMO.

Yoga is a systematic approach towards transforming you in physical, mental and energetic manner so you can be ready to experience and sustain cosmic consciousness. I do have a plan to study Patanjali's work to deepn my understanding regarding the whole system.

More about purification as I think preparatory process is extremely important for further advancement in Kriya Yoga. 🧘‍♂️What is Purification in Yogic Tradition? In the yogic sciences, purification (shuddhi) refers to the systematic removal of physical, energetic, mental, and karmic impurities that block the natural flow of prana (life-force energy), distort perception, and prevent access to deeper states of consciousness. Without proper purification, the energy remains blocked, the mind restless, and the body unfit to handle the intense vibrations of spiritual awakening. Yogic texts emphasize that without purifying the system, true meditation or higher states like samadhi remain unstable or inaccessible. Purification is done across five levels: 1. Physical purification (cleaning the body and organs), 2. Energetic purification (cleansing the nadis and chakras), 3. Mental purification (removing emotional and thought clutter), 4. Intellectual purification (removing egoic distortions), 5. Karmic purification (removing deep-seated imprints and tendencies). 🔥 The Classical Methods of Yogic Purification 1. Shatkarma (The Six Yogic Cleansing Techniques) These are ancient yogic techniques meant to purify the physical body and subtle channels: Neti cleanses the nasal passages and sinuses using saline water or a thread. Dhauti involves swallowing and removing a cloth strip to cleanse the stomach and esophagus. Nauli churns the abdominal muscles to tone the organs and purify the intestines. Basti is a yogic enema to cleanse the colon. Trataka involves fixed gazing at a flame or object to purify the eyes and improve concentration. Kapalabhati uses forceful breath to clear the lungs and nadis and activate energy. These practices are described in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika as essential prerequisites before deeper pranayama or meditation. 2. Nadi Shodhana (Alternate Nostril Breathing) This practice specifically aims to purify the energy channels in the body. By balancing the left and right energy currents (Ida and Pingala), Nadi Shodhana allows the central channel (Sushumna) to gradually open. Once Sushumna is open, spiritual energy — especially Kundalini — can rise without obstruction. 3. Mantra Chanting and AUM Chanting sacred mantras like AUM or So’ham purifies the system through vibration. The sound travels through the nadis, dislodging energetic blockages. AUM specifically is powerful because it vibrates through all the major chakras — from the base to the third eye — and aligns the whole system with cosmic resonance. Mantras also purify the mind, quieting thoughts and harmonizing emotional patterns. 4. Pranayama (Breath Control) Breath is the bridge between body and mind. Through practices like Bhastrika, Kapalabhati, Ujjayi, and Anulom Vilom, yogis purify both the physical breath and the pranic flows. Pranayama builds inner fire (agni), burns impurities, and clears subtle channels. It also brings deep stillness to the mind, which is essential for higher awareness. 5. Asana (Postures) for Purification Yogic postures are not merely for flexibility. They are geometries of energy. Holding specific asanas directs prana into the chakras, granthis (knots), and energy centers. Certain postures stimulate glands, nervous system pathways, and open up physical blocks that hold emotional or karmic tensions 6. Yama and Niyama (Ethical and Mental Purification) Yogis also practice purification of the mind and behavior through the ethical foundations of yoga. These include non-violence, truthfulness, discipline, cleanliness, contentment, and surrender. Without these mental purifications, inner stillness cannot be sustained — because the impurities of ego, anger, greed, and fear will continue to disrupt the energy body. 7. Tapas (Austerities) and Fasting Yogis often undergo disciplined practices like fasting, silence, long meditation sittings, and isolation. These acts of voluntary discomfort burn deep impurities, dissolve karma, and increase inner fire (tapas). Tapas literally means “heat” — the heat that transforms the soul. Final Thoughts Purification isn’t a one-time task. It’s an ongoing unfolding — like peeling layers of an onion. As the outer impurities are burned away, subtler distortions are revealed and worked through. The deeper the purification, the more refined the body, mind, and breath become — and the more capable we are of absorbing silence, stillness, and divine energy. As the Hatha Yoga Pradipika states: > “When the nadis are purified, the breath flows freely through the Sushumna, and the mind becomes steady. Thus, the yogi becomes fit for meditation and samadhi.”, Without purification, yogic practices remain shallow or unstable. With purification, even simple breath and silence becomes sacred. Source: ChatGPT

I don't think Mahasamdhi is anything specific for advanced yogis as they can materialize and dematerialize their bodies at will.

Yes! I'm glad I've dropped the Kriya Yoga practices to do Hatha yoga for almost a year and half and still doing it cause it feels amazing! Now that I'm into the Kriya again, my experience of working with my energy is just amazing! Before it was full of pressure and painfull most of the time! And at that time I didn't care about prepation practices at all. Silly of me.

A note about purification practices. So the more prana flows to your body freely the more consciousness you energetic system will support to sustain for you. But one cannot forcefully do it without being prepared, here comes the important role of purification practices like nadi shodhana, AUM chanting etc, that allows the nadis and energetic channels to get rid of knots and impurities to allow the expansion of ones spiritual energy. Often here people disregard these practices to be not so important. But as I'm progressing in my practices, I'm understanding more and more how these simple practices are very important to prepare the body to handle extreme levels of spiritual energy. Will do more research about it and will share the results here.

Mostly proteins like chicken and eggs and some carbs like a bit of rice as I'm into bodybuilding too, I don't consume red meat. No. I did a lot of self-enquiry in the past, brought all the unconscious egoic patterns and subtle mental layers of the mind into consciousness, working to fully stabilize the pure presence of consciousness I-Am ness dissolving all appearing, disappearing ripples of unconsciousness. This is real super power.

Beautiful!

Tell me about your experience with these systems, I'd love to know

5 years and Kriya Yoga? I guess this represents your state then: