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I think the forum would benefit a lot from this kind of distinction As we practice making it in this thread. Especially if this forum has a heavy left wing bias, it makes sense to discuss what a stage blue and stage orange shadow looks like In our psyche. Progressives are mostly around green and they become judgemental of conservatives when the radical difference in values is apparent. As we discuss ways to integrate blue and orange, we should also make direct comparisons between a tier one and tier two perspective. A tier one perspective would commonly "should" the other side. As if their values should be different than what they currently are. This is a sign that tier one may view its perspective as the only true way to see reality. Meanwhile a tier two perspective would notice that the Republican party is clearly problematic. For example, they lie about the coup. But tier two would react to this differently than tier one. The key difference seems to be in judging people for their character. A tier two perspective would not really demonize someone for a character that fits their values even if it is radically different from their own. This would be a mark of integrity on their part. What do you think? Can you make some direct comparisons between green and yellow? How should the blue and orange shadow be integrated? How can we discuss the problems of the Republican party at a higher level than we currently are?

@Oeaohoo very interesting take. I remember stage green might criticize yellow for seeming indifferent and apolitical sometimes. But if tier two is incompatible with our entire political system, then it makes sense. This requires a recognition that liberals and conservatives have been arguing for thousands of years compromising all along the way. There is no real truth to this. In fact stage yellow might be behind the scenes trying to solve a complex issue without engaging in direct argumentation. What would "tier two" do instead of engage in a system of compromises?

This feels so exaggerated yet so real at the same time. The crowd constantly overlooks blatant corruption when they are partisan.

@Willie I don't think so. His intentions are clear in many of his crimes. For example he tried to rig the election by finding the votes. He's aware that he is breaking laws for his own personal gain. Given how many things he got away with I lost hope of him being brought to justice. This is because the republican party defends him no matter what hence they obstruct all investigations. They know what their doing.

Very good and emotional video. The people enjoy themselves whenever they can creating an uplifting environment in spite of their history being destroyed with deaths of hundreds of thousands. Pretty educational and stunning at the same time.

I did a lot of interesting research on this topic. For some reason the topic of ufos overlaps with consciousness, psychedelics, psychic powers, and more. I don't understand why, but there are some who claim to contact alien entities through psychedelics. The military has not confirmed that they are aliens, but they have not ruled it out either. If they are aliens, then I have some plans for addressing them. My first idea is to expand the civil rights act to include intelligent creatures from other planets. So long as they come in peace they should be granted equal rights to humans. This would be the first peace offering to them. Maybe this should be extended to universal human rights for all countries as we try to build a good relationship with aliens and encourage public acceptance of ufos. I think the United nations should make a plan for what the aliens should do to demonstrate that they come in peace. I think the best place for them to do that would be through the rovers on mars. They are not from mars, but it will keep a distance from them so we don't have ufos flying around us as they may attack us. The aliens should translate their reasons for coming such that we can understand it through the rovers And then show their face to the camera. If they do this, then it will be our standard for a peace offering from aliens. It is entirely possible that they are not peaceful because they have remained ambiguous about their intentions. There was also an attack on colores Brazil in 1977 and there were some unexplained cattle mutilations. Furthermore it is possible that alien abductions are real and the aliens should explain why they did these things. If they don't then it will cast doubt on their intentions and our suspicions may not be dispelled. another idea I have is to give the aliens free access to our livestock because they seem to like it. Of course this would be after they confirm that they were responsible. As it stands right now if the aliens decided to attack the earth, I think humanity would be screwed. Just look at how much NATO struggles with ISIS. The United States constantly pulls out troops prematurely for the sake of making political stunts, only for something to go wrong shortly thereafter. The military was upset with Donald trump for betraying the Kurds And this is why the military voted for Biden, helping him to win. On top of that the United States is still defending Saudi Arabia for its crimes because without them as an ally our gas prices would be even higher. Humanity does not seem to have the ability to cooperate at such an unprecedented level As to repel an alien invasion. We should not panic, but we should be cautious because we do not know why these machines are observing us. In order to prepare for a potential invasion, governments from all over the world would have to share their information on ufos. This would give us our best chance of reverse engineering them. Currently, we have failed because parts of the machines are made of magnesium bismuth and deliberately designed down to the atom. Modern scientists are unable to replicate this and the laws of physics are being violated by the movements of the machines. It demonstrates how little we understand reality. I think the aliens are most likely peaceful because they could have conquered much sooner if they wanted our resources so badly. If aliens are able to build such highly advanced technology, then they must have some level of cooperation involved, and this implies a sense of morality. This moral compass should be much more evolved than human morality as well. Still we can't be sure. If they are peaceful, then humanity needs to show kindness to each other to show that we are not a threat and they may reveal themselves. If they are not peaceful, then humanity still needs to get to the point that we are not at war with ourselves. Either way a world government is necessary for addressing intelligent creatures from other planets. This is idealistic, but I am just putting out what level of cooperation humanity must have to address the aliens. How do you think we should approach this issue?

@Pateedm Do you mean you saw an actual alien or a man who saw an alien? If it was an alien, what did it look like? was it short, black, soft, and wearing a silver mask which acts as a translator while having the ability to teleport? This was a description given by a member of the Brazilian military. I don't know if I believe it or not because I haven't met an alien. Did he say anything? Where was he? Can you tell us more? There are several reports from military personal that may correspond to your description. I have done research on cattle mutilation and its relationship with ufos. I was stunned that this story corresponds to the rest of the research on cattle mutilation.

@Blackhawk https://www.actualized.org/insights/yes-ufos-are-a-thing If you think that then you need to look at Leo's blog. He gives a bunch of sources for aliens. You could spend a good 10-15 hours looking at all the evidence just in this post. There is much more still being revealed by Congress and the military right now.

@Blackhawk in that case humanity would need to be prepared should they mean us harm. This would require a lot of radical changes in order to give humanity a chance of survival. All of the governments from around the world would have to share their findings on UFOs with a central global government. This would give us our best chance at reverse engineering these machines. Currently, the military is struggling to reproduce the magnesium bismuth combination as shown in various news outlets. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t-T4Aa4UPI8

@Blackhawk If you have a better idea, I would be happy to hear it. My idea is that if the aliens came to Earth directly, then it may be interpreted as a threat or potential attack. The idea is to keep some immediate distance between us while they discuss their intentions with us from afar. I may seem funny, but the public policy for UFOs is lacking and we need to make some kind of system for determining whether they come in peace or not. Of course they could be lying and there might be a better system. I am not trolling. I am being serious. I am trying to find some public policies that could be used to invite peaceful alien entities to our planet. Maybe offering them equal rights to humans on the grounds that they come in peace would help our relationship with them and avoid a potential war or invasion.

@KH2 I recommend looking at the ufo hearings. There are hundreds of recordings coming from the military that they are disclosing to congress. There are likely to be more ufo sessions soon. I don't think the military would be taking hundreds of fakes this seriously. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U3OsP_wIqEo There are a lot of unknowns in this field and that makes it very interesting to look into. A very different world could be right around the corner. This has huge implications for public policies, and it seems that the government discloses information in response to a lot of public talk on the topic. It could be to clear misconceptions, but this commonly comes with disclosing footage. There have been movements like "the right to know" in the 90's. Maybe the more interest there is in this subject, the sooner we could see real changes in public policy. I find this to be the most interesting because no government has ever made a comprehensive policy for communication with intelligent creatures from other planets.

@KH2 I understand that fighting aliens is horrible idea and that is why I would prefer trying to understand them. It is still entirely possible that they would try to attack us. There is a part two and three to this series. It covers thousands of pages and the witnesses from the military.

Since you guys seem skeptical and understandably so, I will show you the evidence. There is plenty of it actually. This has been confirmed by the military https://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/03/us/cia-admits-government-lied-about-ufo-sightings.html This YouTube channel has a lot of research on ufos. You can look at the colores incident as well. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/worlds-clearest-ufo-photo-100ft-27738147?amp%3Bamp= The government has openly stated that they are taking this issue seriously and they are releasing video footage to the public.

@Leo Gura what are your standards for who should be considered an adult? How would they need to think and behave? What is maturity? I think 18 years old is just an older child. Age is a poor way to determine adulthood.

Ever since I was child I felt like I had been on this earth thousands of times already. I have no way of knowing for sure if past lives are real because I lose my memories when I die. I am currently exploring this possibility while writing a story about this dream. in one of my dreams I was asleep and I saw a lone tribesmen. He was the sole survivor of a genocide And the only on in the world who knew his language. He spent the rest of his life meditating in a cave with nowhere to go and nothing to accomplish. When his tongue was dead he saw that which had no opposite as emptiness filled his entire experience. Perhaps he was another Buddha who was never discovered or had a religion around him. The story I have in mind gets incredibly sad when the sole survivor of the genocide gives a funeral to his son while singing in soothing tune and in words only he understands. I think if the idea makes me cry then it is probably a good story. I doubt I can write it that good though. It won't stop me from trying. As for my past lives, my dreams imply that I was the survivor, his murdered son, and the warrior who murdered him. Is there a way to tell if past lives are real? There is This sense that I am every being who ever lived, yet I have no memory of it. It is like I am every separate being each with separate memories and I don't have access to all of them. It is like I am one yet I am all. I hesitate to say these feelings point to the truth because it seems like mere beliefs that I can't prove. Nevertheless, there is this feeling that I'm everything, but simultaneously limited to the perspective of this mind and body with a spirit which has seen countless lives, but which has no immediate access to the memories of these lives.

I have been researching this topic and I discovered something very confusing. The bible spears to have many references to astrology and the zodiac such as the 12 tribes of Israel, the 12 disciples of Jesus, Jesus being associated with the sun, the sun, moon, and stars bowing to Joseph, the star guiding the three wise men to Jesus and so on. One the other hand astrology used to be accepted in various religions but isn't anymore. This creates a major contradiction when the bible condemns fortune tellers and star gamers (which is suspect because there are various biased translations of holy texts) , but also many Christians can be seen making prophesies. How else are prophesies made aside from using astrology? For some reason astrology seems to be condemned yet the bible makes many references to the zodiac. Holy texts are based on prophecy constantly yet astrology is condemned. I don't understand why the shift interpretation happened because there used to be a broader acceptance of the zodiac but now there isn't. Can somebody explain this discrepancy? Is this a contradiction or a biased translation? It looks like religion is unknowingly condemning itself by refusing to recognize validity in the worldviews on which it is based.

@integral yes Religion can exist at any stage of development. Purple has a form of spirituality, red can make a god of war, blue can go to church, orange can be a Satanist, green can be more open to acknowledging validity in other religions than blue, yellow and turquoise I'm not sure because they are rare, but they are still possible. Where would you place Martin Luther King jr? He was a liberation Christian. Other sects of Christianity include liberal, environmental, progressive and others who admit the bible is scientifically fallible, but they look for poetic meaning. Blue is more prone to literal interpretation and will reject skepticism constantly.

@VeganAwake what I find interesting is that if the stories have been passed down for so long, what was the true meaning of it? Maybe the modern translations are nothing like the original holy texts yet they are held as if they were. What if Jesus never said "forgive them father for they know not what they do" but rather be said something like "let me go you *blank*". There were also some sects of Christianity which interpreted the religion through a polytheistic lens. They argued that the old and new testaments were incompatible because one is about wrath and punishment while the other is about love and forgiveness. This lead to the idea of a righteous and punishing father and a loving and forgiving mother. These were the two gods of Christianity in this interpretation. I find this fascinating and it demonstrates that we may never know what religion meant when it was originally written.

I think this is very far from the truth. Leo argues that spiral dynamics over estimates the development of mankind. In Mexico there is a struggle to get the drug cartels under control, in America half of the nation fell for trumps election lies, it is very unlikely that a liberal president will be elected any time soon and a world government is unlikely to emerge. Even so he remains optimistic about the development of mankind. What could make you think that Leo is like this? Optimism is far from any utopia. As for the scenario, one Europe is reducing its dependence on Russian gas and oil. This will have an impact on climate change as they switch to green energy. We could say that Putin's effort to control the gas and oil reserves in Ukraine unintentionally pushed mankind further away from fossil fuels which would help the planet. This is bad for the Russian economy because their main source of geopolitical power is control over gas and oil and the ability to sell or transfer this oil throughout Europe which is heavily powered by Russia.

@ShardMare Yes I enjoy the different states of consciousness. This is what I enjoy the most about chess. I can enter a state of flow. I become so peaceful that nothing else in the universe bothers me. I love it. I am most able to achieve this state while in tournaments against strong players. I don't concentrate as much against weaker opponents. It is this enhanced consciousness that creates a cognitive dissonance within me. Should I pursue consciousness or chess? I know how to pursue chess. It is less clear to me how to pursue consciousness, but I have a few ideas in mind that I'm trying instead of memorization.

As a chess player I would like to weigh in on this topic. My journey began when I was 7. My grandpa taught me how to play. After beating me in 11 moves I was mad but pretended to be a good sport. I started practicing against a computer hoping to one day best him. After 30 tries I finally won against the computer and then I beat grandpa. This is a discouraging truth I have to face as a chess player. World class players nowadays had a high level coach, potentially a grandmaster starting from a young age. I did not have the opportunity to get a coach until after college and I never played in any tournaments until I was in high school where I showed promising results. Maybe I would have been better off if my family wasn't full of drug addicts with a father who fled the state to avoid paying child support. This makes it much more difficult to become a grandmaster while it is easy to become a grandmaster if Carlsen has a father who is a decent coach or the polgar sisters have a father who is a decent coach and they all become grandmasters. I'm sure it's still possible, so I don't turn it into a limiting belief. The argument here is that chess is mostly memorization. This is why Fischer quit chess. In my experience memorization is a huge part of chess in sharp openings. This happens because there is often a computer refutation to even the slightest mistake. One cannot afford any error And must memorize the moves. In quiet openings memorization is not as critical, but if you play them enough times then you will memorize the moves eventually. As an amateur player I played against another amateur player in a recent tournament. We both memorized the first 20 moves of the Sicilian najdorf with 6.Bg5 and 10.Bd3. we played on the same level as the world champion up to that point. Meanwhile, players must also memorize some endgame theory. If the average chess game is about 40 moves, then in the case of sharp openings chess is at least 50% memorization and amateurs can easily play on a level equal to world champions. To make matters worse, memorization remains important even for grandmasters. It started before computers with players like Alekhine making extensive opening preparation and it continued from there. Computers made it even more the case after Kasparov lost to deep blue. By the 1980's Kasparov, the world class calculator began to tell the importance of memorization in the poisoned pawn variation. Kasparov said "you know or you die." Embarrassingly, there was a world champion who said "I lost because I didn't leave the computer running long enough". I even had a lesson from grandmaster Anish Giri who is rated over 2700. In reference to the 18th black move g6, he said "I didn't even try to explain that move it just has to be memorized." On the bright side, my little brother used to get very discouraged because he lost against me easily. I taught my brother how to theoretically force a draw with white against the najdorf. he just needed to memorize 23 moves to play on a level equal to grandmasters. At least he has a mild feeling of accomplishment from this. Sometimes we have fun mapping out theoretical draws. 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Be7 8. Qf3 Qc7 9. O-O-O Nbd7 10. g4 b5 11. Bxf6 Nxf6 12. g5 Nd7 13. f5 O-O 14. Qh5 b4 15. Rd3 bxc3 16. Rxc3 Qb6 17. Nc6 Bf6 18. e5 g6 19. Qh4 Bxe5 20. Ne7+ Kh8 21. fxg6 fxg6 22. Nxg6+ Kg8 23. Ne7+ Kh8 = The basic strategy of the modern grandmaster is to prepare side variations And hope the opponent does not know the moves. If he can't figure it out over the board then you win. This is how chess games are determined before they begin. The best players in the world commonly have a gifted memory. If you think about it, chess has been around for over a thousand years. Surely by now humanity can come up with better board games. Some games I like are shogi and go. I do dabble in other games occasionally because I like the radically different way of thinking required to play them well. I still mainly play chess to help me win tournaments. I also got a game called cowboy checkers. When I first played cowboy checkers at first my sisters were playing better than me. They had an early advantage, but I turned it around in the middle game and won. By the time I played it a second time I had mapped out all kinds of patterns and quickly started outperforming everyone. By the third game I started mapping out theoretical best moves, but by that point everybody had already quit. I think laser chess is an interesting idea. Although the concept is interesting, the problem with board games in general is that all of them can be broken down by computer analysis sooner or later. Artificial intelligence has broken shogi and go already. One reason I like board games is because they minimize the amount of luck needed and mostly require skill, but nowadays the only skill seems to be memorization. It is the creativity skill that I enjoy the most, but it is often lacking. We need a board game that requires skill, but can't be broken so easily by computers. The idea behind Fischer random is that so long as the starting position is different every time it prevents in depth analysis. I'm sure this can be done with new board games as well. Meanwhile, I don't mind a little bit of luck and playing with the hand you were dealt like In life. This uncertainty should make a skill based game more interesting. Another idea I have is instead of chess simuls in which a grandmaster plays 30 people at once, we should have board game simuls. The player will be required to outperform 30 players in 30 different board games all at once. One board is chess, another shogi, another go, another go fish, another laser chess, and so on. What new board games do you have in mind? Maybe tournaments should be based on random board games only announced at the tournament.

@Yarco I went through the list and found a lot of crazy things. I confirmed most of them except the polio vaccines causing cancer and I don't know what the weird rituals were the rich people were doing. I could add to the list operation freak out and others from the church of Scientology. They were legally harassing authors who were critical of them. This operation and others were exposed after operation snow white was exposed. Covert operation after covert operation was unravelled and now a lot of people don't like the church of Scientology And don't always know why. Just vaguely that they are crazy. Maybe they have spiritual trauma from a past life in which they witnessed the insanity of Scientology. This would be the ultimate plot twist if they were right about past lives. I find it a little strange that the fbi is responsible for some conspiracies yet it is because of the fbi that we know about some of these conspiracies. The tools with which we fight corruption are themselves corrupt.

I think this is a critical topic for understanding governmental corruption, conspiracy theories, and survival. There is another dimension to politics which is largely unseen by most people. The cia has a history of many cover ups and covert operations without telling congress while using the excuse of national security to hide corruption. How can we navigate this issue without getting sucked into speculation, while bringing out the truth? There is a reason why this topic invites so many conspiracy theorists given the several controversies the cia has hidden and continues to hide. I have been doing a lot of research into ufos lately. Although the United States spends a lot of money on the military, it is not only because of the wars in the Middle East. The military is involved in multiple programs to reverse engineer ufos because they outclass every machine they have. They have been recorded moving faster than 13000 mph, whereas the fastest military jet travels at a max speed of 5000 mph. Ufos can move in ways thought to be physically impossible, which draws into question everything we hold as true about physics and engineering. This is another factor in the massive military spending of the United States. The issue becomes very suspicious when you piece together the lies of the cia. In 1997 the cia admitted to lying about the roswell incident of 1947. The cia also has a history of manipulating Wikipedia pages related to the Iraq War. Meanwhile the Wikipedia pages on the roswell incident still echos the same lies the cia said before 1997. The implications are very incriminating. As a result there are countless conspiracy theories surrounding the topic of cia cover ups. Other issues include manufactured consent, overthrowing democratically elected leaders as in operation condor, funding terrorists in Afghanistan during operation cyclone, lying to congress about operations like these and there could be more covert operations, domestic wiretapping, and much more. How can we get to the truth of these issues while maintaining epistemic responsibility? There is a list of cia controversies on Wikipedia. What other controversies do you know about? I think conspiracy theories seem inevitable when considering issues like these because people are trying to figure out what is being hidden from us through the lie of national security. This issue is at the heart of governmental corruption. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CIA_controversies

My family was also annoyed at the fact that I was asking a lot of questions. I think I discovered a lot of new dimensions of reality. I learned about psychic powers that people use to talk to ghosts. Apparently, it is a skill that can be developed, but the guide at the tour never figured out how to do it. She knows some people who can talk to ghosts though. During the time a the hotel I did a lot of research on ufos. My sister was very interested in the evidence I used to show the CIA was lying. The CIA has a history of manipulating Wikipedia pages like on the Iraq was of 2003. The CIA also admitted to lying about the Roswell incident of 1947 back in 1997. The Wikipedia pages on the Roswell incident still characterize the issue as a thoroughly debunked conspiracy theory. These are the same lies from before 1997. It looks like the CIA is still lying about ufos And manipulating Wikipedia pages. My brother laughed at me at first thinking the idea of ufos is crazy. After a lot of research the evidence becomes overwhelming. This opens up a ton of questions about modern science because it demonstrates how trivial our understanding of reality is. So many of the physical laws of the universe are being clearly violated by the ufos. They have been recorded traveling at 13,000 mph whereas the fastest military jet can only fly 5,000 mph. There are scientists who struggle a lot trying to reverse engineer these things because everything we thought we knew about reality is in question and is clearly a very tiny portion of what there is to know. Some of the tour guides talked about big foot. It sounded crazy to me at first, but then again who knows? If ghosts and ufos turned out to be real, what other secrets could reality be hiding? What is the most convincing evidence you have of big foot? Are ghosts, ufos, astrology, big foot, and so on somehow related? Maybe the aliens know how to tap into spiritual energy and combine it with engineering to make these kind blowing machines. Maybe they look like chupacabras, big foot, little men wearing silver masks that are used as a translator as some eye witnesses reported and they also have very soft bodies. It would not surprise me in the slightest if aliens knew how to talk to ghosts more effectively and manipulate them in all kinds of ways including animal sacrifices like the mutilation of cattle. It blows my mind when I look at how many dimensions there are to reality and there are so many possibilities opening up that I didn't think of before. I think I'll look into religion and how the prophecies were shaped by astrology and the zodiac. The bible uses the number 12 a lot and it seems interesting.

I am back from my vacation to the rocky mountains. I think my family has developed spiritually which is fantastic news. First we went into the mountains. On one of these hikes I sat on a rock and started meditating. My sister has the picture of me, but it was a very peaceful position. I could hear a bird and a calming wind. It was a pretty good spot but I don't have the picture. Secondly, we went on a ghost tour. I was looking for the most convincing evidence that ghosts are real. I think around 90% of the time the photo can be rationally explained or it is fake. But on some rare occasions there images which defy all explanation. The tour guide showed me pictures of orbs, faces, squiggly lights, videos which twisted themselves, but most convincingly an image of a woman who wasn't even there. I think these are the most difficult to explain away when an entire person appears but nobody was there. She is in the bottom left corner. Thirdly we went to the church of cannabis. There was a light show designed to mimic the effects of psychedelics so I treated like the closest thing I had to practice. They talked about religious dogmatism and how we should be more interested in questions rather than answers. I also played Galaga on the arcade machine downstairs and got about 170000 points. I'm not a world class player though because there was a strategy I didn't know about. Also I hurt my wrist. Finally, my mom bought some cannabis based pills over the counter. I was worried at first because if she was caught taking it over state lines then she could end up in prison, but she was successful. It looks like the rest of my family will have a reduced stigma and close mindedness toward psychedelics because both my sisters want to try the cannabis. There were many limiting factors on this vacation. Firstly, my mom and sister were fighting very badly. Mom said some very twisted things like "if I get out of this car and end up murdered It will be on you! Live with that shit!" They both yelled "fuck you" at each other. The fights were so bad that my family asked me to sit in between the two during the service at the cannabis church. At this point I refused and laid down on the floor anyway to mimic the effects of psychedelics to the best of my abilities. Thankfully, they stopped in response this refusal and my sister joined me. Spirituality is too important to be held down by these petty fights. Maybe they knew by my behavior on the mountains that Spirituality is pretty valuable. Secondly, when picking out which cannabis based pills we should try my family was adamantly against me getting the kind which enhanced creativity and perception. They insisted that I got the pills which improved sleep. This was lame because I already have ocd pills with a side effect of drowsiness making sleeping pills redundant. I also understood that cannabis is already very weak compared to lsd, mushrooms, and dmt for spiritual purposes. If it doesn't enhance creativity and perception, then this is probably the weakest of all cannabis based products for spiritual purposes. Although my family is afraid of me becoming too creative, at least they have somewhat reduced the stigma of drugs given this behavior. Their curiosity was too strong as well. The position will inevitably become "all drugs are bad unless it is a drug I use." This already is the case with alcohol and nicotine which are terrible and kill hundreds of thousands, but cannabis can be added to the list. Some of my family justifies their close mindedness to research on psychedelics, but not all of them. There were a couple of other problems as well, but I think higher consciousness is gradually winning out and My family is becoming a little bit more open to these topics. I don't know what it would take for my mom and sister to get along.