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@DocWatts they are not joking about driving people to suicide. I was in the hospital for mental health where I met other trauma survivors. Some of them were victims of modern day neo nazis who tried to drive them to suicide after doing the same to their friends. They coerce them into jumping off of bridges to disguise the murder as suicide and they get away with this constantly. This is why the suicide statistics are wrong. As it stands nearly 50 percent of murder cases are never solved. That is not counting the proxy suicide murderers because they are not even being recorded as murders. I am also a survivor of a proxy suicide attempt by my abusive family member. I was being targeted even more because of my severe depression and there was sadistic pleasure on the harm being caused with impunity. The other family members still refuse to admit that abuse is even happening and they tell me I am the problem somehow. I really need to leave, but there are some genuine constraints combined with sentimental bullshit around some family members I love. The point remains is that they are definitely not joking about those suicides. I have met survivors and the legal system is terrible at prosecuting this because they don't take psychological abuse as seriously as physical abuse due to the greater difficulty in proving against plausible deniability without direct words.
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Does this mean that we will need to disguise ourselves as right wing fascists with the strategy to pretend to support billionaires so they are not alert to what is happening as they lobby against us? We would have to publicly talk about things like meritocracy and free market while downplaying the harms of capitalism. We would then make policies packages as something that gives billionaires more money and keeps wages low, which the government is doing anyway by the way. Then we would find ways to sneak in policies that seem to help billionaires at first but which have down stream effects that ultimately help the poor and gives them more power instead. If you are too open about the problems of the world and those in power, then they will crush you. This might be a noble or necessary lie to work around it. What would you think if I were someone who appeared to be a right wing capitalist fascist but was secretly working to undermine them? Would you consider me very conscious or very unconscious?
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@Lyubov basically I have this feeling I call loneliness because I am cutting myself off from an abusive family system. I know I can never get genuine lobe from them because they find my reality too uncomfortable, especially if they are trying to avoid legal accountability while being smug in the suffering they cause me. I have become the family scapegoat and I cannot express myself and be seen for who I am because of all the lies that were spread about me and the unwillingness of other family members to acknowledge the harm caused. They don't want accountability so they they blame me. I am experiencing a combination of grief and rage because I didn't have the opportunity to have a family that would love me beyond a stupid performance designed to manipulate me. If they cannot accept me or my point of view and they must enable further abuse, then I must remain in no contact with them. I can't afford to give in to the trauma bond and go back to them. They are the cause of my mental health problems in the first place that I am trying to recover from. I just hate the fact that my younger siblings are also lost to me in the process. They are too young to understand these dynamics, and my younger sister sometimes takes my sister's word for it even if she lies about me. My younger brother is still in highschool and I don't want to dump this shit on him. I shouldn't turn to him for emotional support. I am realizing that I never had the opportunity to be with someone who would be with me and see me for who I am. I can see the therapist once a week, but I want someone I can speak to everyday. I know not to make them a therapist, but I still want a hug and someone to talk to. I've been avoiding relationships all my life because I learned that love was a lie and a tool to manipulate in addition to being unworthy of love of course. I hate carrying the weight of everything on my own.
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@Sugarcoat I have figured out another reason not to kill yourself. It is a framework that acknowledges the reality of suicide without moralizing against you. Basically, if you are suicidal, then most likely you are dealing with circumstances that no human being should have to cope with. In this sense it is not really about you, but rather something deeply unfair and difficult that overwhelms your ability to cope. What this means is that you need help coping with an impossible situation. The problem is that our current system is often dysfunctional and fails people who reach out for help by prescribing pills that make things worse. Therefore, if I feel suicidal, then I want help coping with something extremely difficult. However, the reason people do kill themselves is if they feel that they cannot be helped. From this point of view, if I am suicidal then I want to reach out to every possible source I can imagine in the hopes of finding one person who cares, as this is what it takes to start making things at least a little bit better. It makes sense to approach suicidal thoughts in this way if you are approaching the ultimate final decision to take your own life.
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Okay, I remember that the forum said it didn't want me posting while I am high. Therefore, I am texting this reminder to tell me to wait until later so I don't forget to tell you about what I experienced while I was high. I hope you can be understanding. See you soon. Sorry for technically posting while high, but I want to make sure I don't forget to tell you. Love and Peace
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I think what I am discovering is that my body is just very sensitive to drug treatment. This is not just with cannabis, but also with all kinds of drugs used by the hospitals. They pretty much always have these adverse affects that don't solve the problem. I frequently have the opposite of the intended reaction to all kinds of pills. My body might not be cut out for this kind of treatment that the medical industry is using all the time. Not to mention that the pills and diagnosis are often rushed, leading to many errors.
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I have my notes here. I took one cannabis based gummy and I seem to be sensitive to them, triggering these kinds of experiences. From this state I was contemplating things like God and the nature of reality. However, I was also going through a hard time because I recently had a difficult with my sister regarding sexual abuse in our early childhood that has serious legal implications for the family depending on what evidence is put together. The first insight was infinite relativism. It was like reality was structured such that all realities were simultaneously both real and imaginary. This included even God being so omnipotent that God could structure reality such that God both exists and does not exist simultaneously. This is a paradox with ego as well because in a sense I do exist and in a sense I don't exist. It happens this way because reality is perspectival, thus allowing for wild paradoxes and contradictions. The possibilities are infinite, yet they all cancel out. This seems to correspond to what Leo says about things like reality being deeply relativistic. What I found was that asking "what is not relativistic" is a trap because it assumes Absolute is not relativistic and it is an assumption about the nature of truth. Absolute could simply mean that reality is such that everything is relative. I don't think this is really a contradiction and it seems to make perfect sense to me. During the trip I explored the limits of my capacity for love. My capacity for love reached to a lot of different people, but I ended up getting stuck at Nazis because I think they are bastards. This seems to be one of the limits of my capacity for love, but God's capacity for love would be greater and include even them. Perhaps love does not have to mean accepting someone for who they are. Maybe I could accept that they are bastards and that I hate them. That seems to be the most love I could offer people like that. I don't like cruelty and I have a hard time enjoying people who would be cruel to others especially when it involves sexually abusing children. However, I can accept the reality of cruelty without it needing to be pleasant. It seems that I try to process my trauma through maintaining as much love and compassion as I can while trying to understand people who seem incomprehensible so that I can apply it to people who might harm me, thus reducing how much pain I feel. My main reason for maintaining love is because I try to distinguish myself from people who clearly lack love of others, but this implies a duality such that love cannot be complete to the point of me being one with such monsters. This is the limit of things like compassion as it is often used to distinguish ourselves from bad people and be unlike them rather than one with them because I don't want to be a monster myself which I feared due to my exposure to sexual predators in childhood. I noted that I recently ended up in the hospital. I ended up withdrawing from medication that caused me chest pain and it caused mental instability. Others feared that I would kill myself, so the police took me to the hospital even though I did everything I could to avoid going because of the fear of getting more bad pills that hurt me. I wanted to include that my state of mind was like this prior to taking the gummy. I felt that this particular state was helping me to process things that happened to me, but I was worried that it could turn into some kind of psychological addiction because of how good it felt to have some of these weights lifted off of me. Part of me may have feared going back into a suicidal state in which I was unable to cope with existing. I noticed that I was constantly doubting myself, but then I started to seriously doubt doubt. I noticed that doubt was happening instinctively as if it were programmed rather than being a function of truth seeking. I noticed that I was not choosing to doubt, which made me realize that this behavior was deeply unconscious. This casts a lot of doubt on doubt if I don't even control the process of doubting and it just happens to me. How do I know it is getting me closer to truth rather than leaving me in endless analysis paralysis? I noted that doubt is often a survival tool that can get as further from truth through selective doubt based on our biases against ideas or worldviews we don't like. I would have to know why I am doubting and I would need to do so very consciously in order to make sure doubt isn't being used to fool myself. I have many more notes. I'll fill in more details later. This may not have been some mind blowing awakening, but as I integrated these insights it helped stabilize me and it made me feel much more grounded rather than panicked. This is likely part of how this cannabis based gummy was designed for relaxation and sleep aid, but because of my sensitivity I get a little high off of it. I previously got a much higher hit off of it the first time I tried it, but I am not concerned about chasing a previous high. I am more concerned with the insights I gain and how I integrate them from this heightened sensitivity when it happens.
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I think what seems to be helping me is keeping interpretation to a minimal. I want to focus as much as possible on just what I observed. I notice that interpretations seem to open the door for all kinds of self-deception because there are many competing explanations which then depends on your biases. If I state just what I observed, then I feel much more grounded and less confused. This is what I am doing for things like the sex trafficking incident. I called the sexual assault hotline and they are trying to get me into a free program for people like me. They will call back in a couple of days. Staying grounded in direct experience rather than the thought of what it all means seems to avoid a lot of self deception because the possibilities are endless and it leads to constant confusion.
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Alright, my Aunt is fine with the situation. I told her that I was having a freak out moment and mental health problem because of the nightmare about my Uncle molesting me and my sister. I took the gummy and it helped me relax and feel better. She told me that she wanted me to take the other two pills, but not the gummies on most nights. She was happy that the gummies helped me, but wanted me to use them in the best way. She said that if I am having extreme emotional problems like those then I may use them, but don't mix them with other medications if I don't need to or I am not having that kind of moment. I still have things to do before I give the full story though. This is part of the story. I genuinely felt like I had an impossible weight being lifted off of me and it was very helpful because of the distress I was in. I just didn't want it to turn into a psychological addiction and wanted to make sure she was comfortable.
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I took notes while it was happening but I need to get a hold of my aunt first. She didn't intend for me to get high off of a weed gummy. I want to make sure she is okay first. She might not want me using these anymore and I want to respect her autonomy before I continue using the psychologically addicting drug that could in her eyes become a problem. I want to talk with her first before I say everything here.
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@Basman You actually make a good point here. When I was young especially, due to autism. I experience the world very differently from the people around me. People often thought I was weird and it made me feel isolated. People with autism are also extremely prone to PTSD due to emotional and psychological abuse, about ten times compared to the general population due to sensory overload. This is actually very important, and I am glad you noticed this. It might be a combination of autism and bipolar disorder and depression and PTSD and other things. I swear I never chose to be this way. This may be how my brain is wired, but thanks for that. I don't buy everything you said, but this piece is actually good and I am happy that you cared enough to respond and put some thought into this. Part of my confusion is not that I am stuck in one interpretation. I am actually aware of many interpretations and it can be overwhelming and confusing. In this case I believe multiple things are true simultaneously. For example, the medical system exploited me because it is a for profit system full of insurance scams that don't cover shit. If you don't live in America, you might not know this. It is also true that the people often don't realize what they are doing. Society is full of people who don't fully see their role in the system and how they contribute to the dysfunction. The doctors themselves are not necessarily acting out of malice, but even in ignorance they may perpetuate some of the problems. I feel like people misinterpret this about me a lot. The reason I am so lost and confused is not because I am stuck in one interpretation and I believe it is absolutely true no matter what. It is because I am overwhelmed by tons of different interpretations. It makes me confused and it causes me to get lost. It leads to rumination because of my struggle to understand the world from this level of complexity. I am using a lot of mental space to hold these interpretations even around very challenging issues. It is just that part of how trauma works is that sometimes it fucks with the actual neurology of your brain and it makes it hard to get these things out and make them stop. Don't get stuck in the interpretation that I am stuck in one interpretation. Others may not be open to multiple interpretations including the possibility that I am open to multiple interpretations. This feels like a projection to me under many circumstances when people assume I am close-minded even though open-mindedness is one of my core values in life since I was a child. I saw the horrors of religious fundamentalism and political violence when people assumed that their interpretation was the one true perspective. I would not want to be like them. At the same time the paradox I grapple with is that I also need some kind of ground to stand on so I can actually move through life. It is like a psychological need to have a stable sense of reality, but for me this is constantly being undermined. For me this is a difficult paradox to navigate because their really are a lot of interpretations, but this also makes it very hard to function when it overwhelms me. I should probably mention that I also get annoyed by the self-help platitudes around mindset because it becomes unfalsifiable. Literally anything I say could be framed as me not having success with personal development because of a mindset problem. A similar unfalsifiable position would be if you tried to improve yourself by devoting your life to Christ, discovered it didn't work, and then the church tells you that you just need more faith. In this situation your mindset is the problem and that is why you are miserable. This mindset argument is personal development's built in mechanism for dismissing failures as individual problems rather than as potentially a problem with self-help itself. Religion would do exactly the same thing, but they will call it faith instead of mindset when it does not work. Seriously think about this. How would I prove you wrong if you just told me that I had a mindset problem? You would likely assume that forever. If ever I succeed it is because I now had the right mindset and personal development was right from the beginning with no mistake or flaw whatsoever in these assumptions and interpretations of the situation. Framing things as a mindset problem is one interpretation of the situation. Once again, I am open to the possibility, but people assume that because I see the potential flaw in this, that I automatically believe this interpretation is the one true one as if I am a fundamentalist who thinks my one interpretation is always correct in this situation. The assumption is again that I am close-minded therefore I don't succeed in personal development. Obviously, I am not stupid and I know that mindset is a factor and a possibility, but self-help wants to assume this is everything that is wrong with the situation in the event that I do not succeed. How would I prove to you that I do not have a mindset problem? Are people just assuming that they know how my mind actually works? This is mind reading and it is often wrong. Nevertheless, personal development insists that it can read my mind in this situation and I am just stuck in one interpretation. It is possible that I am overwhelmed by all the possible interpretations and this is my mental and sensory overload as someone with autism. It makes me chaotic because I struggle to establish a stable sense of reality. Obviously I am open-minded to the possibility that I hallucinated all of my trauma including the existence of other human beings and family. Why else would I be listening to people like Leo talk about this kind of stuff? Why is not considered that I could be grappling with the paradox that there are so many interpretations, yet I need a way to function through some kind of stable sense of reality? Why are people so stuck in this one interpretation and then calling me the close-minded one who can't see the other interpretations? This is insane and people are not open-minded to these possibilities so they make all these assumptions about how I actually think and function. This makes me feel isolated and alone because clearly people do not see me for who I am and many times they genuinely do not care or everything I say just goes over their head. I hope you understand some of this frustration. Thanks for your support.
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@Basman this is brilliant. Yes. I have been conditioned with the belief that I should be happy and I should love myself. I have had this seared into my brain since I was a young child. I felt that the fact that I was unable to love myself because of these things were further proof of my failure and inadequacy. This is also likely why I put purpose on a pedestal as it has to do with being self made and successful as if it would make me happy. I never actually managed to undo these kinds of beliefs and dispositions. I guess I can try to talk about these more openly as they tie into some of my existential problems and questions which ultimately led me to actualized.org. Why do I believe I need to be happy? Why do I believe unhappiness makes me inadequate? What does success mean to me? Why do I believe being successful will make me adequate? Starting out, the belief that I needed to be happy seems to have started when I went to the doctor with my mom as a young child. The doctors started asking me if I was happy. I didn't know why they were asking these questions. Apparently they knew I was at a higher risk of suicide because of my father abandoning me. When asked these questions I would pause and seem confused. I wasn't sure what it meant to be happy. Part of me felt deeply uncomfortable and didn't want to tell them no. Therefore I ended up just smiling and laughing and then saying "well I'm happy now. So now what?" They ended up accepting this answer. Now that I think about it, they were completely full of shit because it should be obvious that something is up here if the child is hesitant and unclear as to what is meant by happiness. Basically they were teaching me to mask. At the same time it made me think along the lines of them wanting me to feel satisfied in life in general, but they never told me what that would look like. They probably didn't want to tell me that satisfaction in life would be having a loving and present father along with my mother. That would make me happy in life, but I never had that. At the same time I got the impression like I was supposed to be happy because they wanted me to. They never told me what I should be looking for in a happy life. It left me with this sense that being unhappy was somehow unacceptable but they never told me why they suspected I would be unhappy, so I was deeply confused by this. I never had the experience of a present and loving father, so how would I know that that is what I wanted and needed? I thought it was normal for fathers to abandon their kids and leave them with single mothers given the example I saw in my parents. But the belief that I should be happy seemed to stem from this. It was a means of denying my misery of my father's abandonment. They knew from the beginning that I was a higher risk of suicide but did not tell me anything about what they were getting at, leaving me lost and confused as to what happiness means. To me happiness means having present and loving parents who respect each other and set a good example for their children so I can grow up to be like them rather than being lost in life by being forced to figure out everything myself. I had no real guidance and I am so fucking tired of trying to figure out everything myself without the guidance of a close decent human being who I can trust. This would then tie into why I think unhappiness makes me inadequate. I was left with the impression that my mom wanted me to happy and that it was somehow wrong if I was unhappy. They never told me why though. It was likely because they knew I would be more likely to die by suicide because of this. Therefore, the reason I cannot be unhappy is because it means that I would have no reason to live and I would be suffering to the point that I would be better off dying by suicide. Unhappiness to me means suicidal depression. I think it is fair to say that I don't want to live my life with this depression and unhappiness. This would be unacceptable to my mother because it would make her unhappy which in turn might make her angry with me leading to punishment or negative consequences. At the same time, the reality is that I cannot have happiness in the form of a loving family to be present for me. Therefore I need to invent some other form of happiness that doesn't involve my family. I was also afraid of starting a family because I felt that I was unworthy of existence and people would not love me if they knew who I was on the inside. I was afraid that my mother might abandon me as well like my father. To me I start to crave intimacy and connection but I simultaneously avoid it because I feel that I would not be wanted. I repeated the inappropriate sexual behavior my uncle did with children when I was six with my sister once I was exposed to it and I felt it made me unworthy of love as my mom thought I was an irredeemable bastard. I felt I was stupid for not knowing better and repeating this behavior. I felt that I was fundamentally a bad person who needed redemption even though it was already decided to be impossible. I can never be happy in life because I am not wanted. To this day I want a romantic partner who will be there for me and see me for who I am. However I doubt I would be wanted because of my mental health problems like bipolar disorder, PTSD, and others. I now lost my job and struggle to maintain consistent income. I tried getting medical help but the medical system exploited me with ineffective treatment and drained my money. I try to redeem myself through life purpose but it is impossible. Therefore I want to kill myself. What are your thoughts?
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@theleelajoker I'm looking for help in processing sexual abuse. My ability to cope was overwhelmed no matter what I tried. I don't know that people here would have any advice other than therapy. The problem is that I am unable to access my therapist at this time so I needed to find some other why to handle this kind of material. One of the things that stuck with me was the twisted and perverted smiles of such creeps. Any advice for processing these things outside of try to endure the unbearable while waiting for therapy?
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I don't think you did anything wrong even if it wasn't well received. You are somebody who needs help and sometimes it is coming out even if others might not want to hear it. You may be reacting to internalized shame from trauma itself. Although logic cannot overcome mental health problems, I hope that you can one day reach security in yourself to a point that you don't need to hide things from yourself as well the teachers. You were likely looking for some kind of connection or the hopes of relating to someone and finding compassion that you may desperately need. In my experience, I have often been deeply embarrassed by so much as an unpleasant thought. You likely do not deserve to carry this level of shame and it may be disproportionate to the situation. That said, I don't know how to take the shame away through words alone. You may have been conditioned over several years to see yourself in this way and it now feels like reality. I never really had any luck trying to erase memories. I ended up doing the opposite and creating an identity based around traumatic events that would always come back into my mind. What do you think this interaction you had says about you? Do you think it reveals something like your stupidity or the fact that you are weak or too easily hurt? What exactly is embarrassing about this and what is your psyche telling you about yourself because of this embarrassment? I don't think these things of you, but it might help to articulate what exactly your psyche is trying to say about you and how it is characterizing you. Bear in mind that the mind's evaluation of itself is often wrong even if it feels natural to think this way and completely instinctual. What ever it takes, I hope you will not have to live your life with such shame.
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trenton replied to theoneandnone's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I consider myself solipsistic. Since I was a child I had this sense that I could be so deeply self deceived as to hallucinate this entire experience and imagine other human beings with whom I would have relationships that were illusory. It was very destabilizing and I didn't know how to deal with it. Eventually I accepted not knowing because I realized that no intellectual framework no matter how sophisticated could distinguish between real knowledge and dream knowledge. I found peace in not knowing if any of this was real or not while holding both possibilities and operating within both simultaneously. -
I have been doing more research into the decline of empires like the US. I thought it was bad because of the corporate capture and the deficit crisis. However, the situation appears to be even worse than I thought. I believe that the US government has been captured by its own military which now holds permanent undue influence over the entire political process. The current governmental, military, and corporate apparatus that runs our politics appears to be irreversible and irreformable. I see no way for America to escape this deeply corrupted system without complete collapse caused by our imperial overreach and deficit crisis. I have done research into the origins of the Military Industrial Complex, how it came to be, and how it came to capture the government of the America for its own agenda regardless of public dissent. As I have been doing this research, I understand that most of the time conspiracy theories are ungrounded in reality and completely baseless. However, there have been various conspiracy theories about our government that proved correct about deep corruption. These theories include COINTELPRO, MK-Ultra, NSA mass surveillance, Operation Northwoods, Iran-Contra Affair, and others. I would like to be cautious in the certainty placed in the conclusions presented here because of the incomplete information that is being worked with. However, the evidence seems compelling and I would like to discuss what I have discovered and its implications. It is possible that I am about to highlight one of the rare times a conspiracy theory holds legitimate weight. Even if the theory is not true, there are still other aspects of it which explain the current state of American politics. Throughout human history governments have formed militaries designed for their protection. However, on some occasions their military goes rogue and accumulates so much power that they cannot be controlled by their own government. This can lead to military leaders hijacking the government though capturing the democratic processes and institutions while occasionally carrying out assassinations of their own political leaders. The Late Roman Empire had cases in which the Praetorian Guard were supposed to protect the emperor, but repeatedly assassinated leaders who did not serve their interests. In the Ottoman Empire Janissaries controlled sultans and blocked various reforms that went against their interests. In Imperial Japan their own military factions controlled civilian government, contributing to overexpansion. The list goes on and it is possible that the US military industrial complex is no exception. This system has amassed great power and control over the government regardless of which party is in power. Our military has demonstrated a willingness to carry out terrorist attacks against US civilians as false flag operations designed to provoke wars with other nations like Cuba. Our military seems to have no legal boundary it is not willing to cross to serve its own interests. Therefore, the system claiming to serve our national security appears to be the greatest threat to our national security. What would America do if its own military decided it wanted to turn against us and install whatever government it wanted? It has already done this to many other countries throughout history, and the US itself may not be an exception. President Eisenhower and later Kennedy showed great resistance to the expansion of military power. Eisenhower appeared to be somewhat successful. Meanwhile Kennedy was successful at first until his assassination after which Johnson was put in power. Johnson immediately reversed Kennedy's decisions even though his peaceful policies were showing promise. Kennedy had resisted escalating the war in Vietnam as he also sought peaceful resolutions with Cuba. Furthermore, as soon as Kennedy was assassinated, the previous government workers which he had fired for their terrorist plots were immediately put back in power under Johnson. The government proceeded to butcher every step of the investigation into the Presidential assassination so systematically, that it is hard to attribute all of these failures to mere incompetence. In fact sometimes governments use the cover of incompetence as a cover for calculated decisions as they did during WWII by "appeasing the bully." The cover pattern of the investigation included repairing the car, thus tampering with evidence, allowing the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald, a key witness, and the CIA practice of destroying sensitive documents to ensure they are never leaked, including Kennedy files. The initial cover story was that Cuba was behind the assassination. However, the official narrative does not hold under scrutiny because if Kennedy was seeking peace with Cuba and was largely successful, then it does not make sense for Cuba to assassinate him. Once again, the military industrial complex has a more clear motive for assassinating the President because he was preventing the expansion of perpetual military spending while preventing the military from carrying out terrorist attacks on Americans by firing key government officials. Furthermore, the later investigation of the assassination yielded limited findings, claiming it was a conspiracy rather than Oswald being a lone actor as initially reported. You would think that if a Presidential assassination were so serious, then it would warrant a thorough investigation, but this never came. The behavior I am describing suggests an institutional cover-up by the CIA. There have also been recent revelations that the CIA had been lying for decades about officer George Joannides who worked with anti-Castro groups that publicized Oswald's pro-Castro activities after his assassination, suggesting a coordinated attempt to start war with Cuba similar to the other terrorist plots like Operation Northwoods which Kennedy prevented. Although we may never know who was truly behind this conspiracy, the impact of this assassination is clear. The military industrial complex immediately captured the US government and installed a system that would forever serve their interests. It created a system of perpetual military spending and endless wars. Every President following Kennedy's assassination has been far more hawkish. Even those that were initially peaceful eventually had to flip. It appears that the military industrial complex has captured the democratic apparatus and made peaceful foreign policy practically impossible because the system in place perpetually funds new weapons systems as the military constantly looks for and creates new threats to justify intervention. This kind of dynamic has created a policy lock in system that has made it impossible for the US to stop its imperial overreach even when it is clearly destructive like in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Moving forward, this historical analysis explains why it is impossible to change American foreign policy. The democratic apparatus is being run by the military industrial complex who benefit from perpetual war and endless deficit spending. I see no means to challenge this kind of system. I believe the only way out of this broken government is to leave the US and let the economy implode due to endless US imperial overreach, leading to the decline of empires throughout history as demonstrated in Dalio's model. I see no movement within this system that could overcome this level of corruption, not to mention to financial capture of other massive corporations which also block any reform that does not benefit them. Our government is inflexible and irreformable, and there is no politician we can elect that can overcome this kind of corruption. The system is completely entrenched and the entire government itself has become a tool for this corruption. Of course there is more evidence we could discuss regarding the assassination. To this day the military industrial complex continues to run rogue. There are various covert operations being carried out without the oversight of Congress. This exposed operations include assassination plots, government coups, mind control, and many other covert operations that have gone rogue from the government. It is clear that the military has become too powerful for our own government to control as it now takes in more money than the next ten countries combined. This is unsustainable and clearly destructive, but there is likely nothing we can do to change our course from inevitable destruction.
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trenton replied to Franz_'s topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The way I see it is that satanism is a reaction to the excesses of mainstream religion. It includes a coalition to prevent religious ideologues from having their religion be the only ones who get their religion taught in schools. They are part of the reason why Christians haven't already taken over the educational system because they constantly stop them with legal battles. They also reject things like purity culture, wallpapering over doubts, and many other things. They interpret Satan as a symbolic figure rather than a literal figure as most of them are atheists. I have an overall positive opinion of satanists compared to mainstream Christianity in America and what it stands for. They are preventing the take over of the church. -
I am exploring this question because I have felt very alone for a long time. I often felt as if I were essentially invisible and I mattered very little if at all. What I see right now is that what my family showed me is not connection. It involves things like saying "I love you" out of social conditioning while selectively invoking family values at my expense. I also received messages that both asked me to be more open about my feelings while simultaneously being punished if I expressed sorrow or anger. Connection seems to be essentially impossible in a narcissistic family system because the narcissistic identity is built on lies and thus requires constant deception. It creates a situation where I am wanted not for who I am but rather for the role I would be forced to play as the scapegoat who is too honest and truthful. I started with loving myself and I seem to have made significant progress. Self-love often involves unconditional acceptance of all aspects of myself which may be tempting to condemn. Sometimes it is temporarily unpleasant to admit harsh truths about myself, but the key is that it ultimately leads to greater inner harmony without different parts fighting each other. I noticed that my primary ego defense mechanism is "othering." It leads to disassociating and limiting my identity to what I believe I should be. I did this with other people such as those who were engaged in inappropriate sexual behavior in order to distance myself from them as a consequence of trauma. I also do this within parts of my own psyche. There might be something undesirable that threatens my dominate ego identity so it fragments and tries to separate itself. This gradually leads to increasing chaos because such an identity is based on the lie of separation. The division between myself and all of these other parts is imaginary and conceptual because I already am one with all of them. This was an idea I learned from spirituality and it likely extends to human beings who I othered. It makes sense that this pattern is happening as love is the realization that you are everything and that you were one with everything from the beginning, hence "you are already enlightened." So, connection within myself involves unconditional acceptance and expanding my sense of self to include all parts which may have been deemed unacceptable. The key is that this behavior is inherently extrinsically motivated as the values being imposed necessarily reject my intrinsic and authentic desires. That said, I would imagine that loving another person and forming a connection to them is likely similar to unconditional acceptance regardless how their content may be seen or expressed. This would manifest as being very present and conscious with a clear focus and sense of engagement. I did this with someone like my Aunt. She has limitations in terms of the things about me that can be accepted, but when I sit with her I kind of just accept this alternate reality bubble she is describing as I see the world from that angle without fighting or trying to correct. If I do try to correct it then one sentence might lead to a tirade, so it becomes kind of one-side as I cannot express my view of reality. In fact my view of reality is either seen as too complex or I will be met with anti-intellectualism as is the case with my mother. This seems to be part of the dynamic I live with where love and connection is completely one-sided leaving me isolated even as others insist that they love me while they seem to have little interest in who I am. If connection needs to be mutual in order for all parties to be felt and seen, then I might need to think of what it would be like if another human being loved me. I noticed that apparent love often takes the form of "you can tell me anything." The problem is that sometimes this is said with an agenda to manipulate myself or others while weaponizing my vulnerabilities as in the case of my father or sister. When love seems hollow, manipulative, or meaningless it might contribute to the "I want to kill myself" attitude. It seems that the problem is that apparent love is what love would actually be if not for the fact that it was a lie to achieve some other goal. In such a situation the false connection reveals that deep down you truly are alone and you are not loved. When I think of somebody who loved me very deeply, I might think of my grandpa. He seemed to be invested in ensuring that I grew up to be a decent human being despite the family dysfunction. He wanted me to be good unlike my father who broke my grandpa's heart through his criminal acts. This became similar to how my internal world worked. I would have an identity around being good but I would then have thoughts and desires that seemed bad. Ultimately my identity is not limited to being good because this identity was formed partially in defiance to the behavior I witnessed. From this point of view, my grandpa's love served a purpose, but it can become restrictive if the moral compass is too strict in what is considered bad. My regret became that I did not realize how much he meant to me until it was too late, causing me to feel that I did not reciprocate the love he intended for me. I cannot imagine anybody loving me in this kind of manner, so I may need to look for love in another form. I know that I experience connection through teaching. I might teach people different board games that I learned to master and we can have fun interactions in the process as they improve. I enjoy the mutual enthusiasm, but most of the time I seem to be the one with the most enthusiasm. I also like sharing my findings in research with others and I especially like it when others engage in the exploratory process without needing to rigidly defend any particular position. It becomes a learning experience and a method of self-discovery. I do the same thing with all kinds of modes for understanding myself and the world. I could do it with religion, science, philosophy, politics, psychology, and many other fields. Given the fact that I invest so much in self-discovery it might implicate that I cannot receive love because I do not who I am and what exactly needs to be seen and loved. If I fundamentally lack a cohesive identity, then what exactly needs to be shared? Apparently, I am supposed to come up with intrinsic values, but I seem to be in the process of discovering those. Open-mindedness and exploration seem to be a couple of them which never changed at any point in my life. It seems that purpose was a value imposed on myself to compensate my worth. I'm trying to imagine what it would be like to love someone and actually mean it. In the case of my grandpa he seemed to value my well-being whereas other family members would dismiss me, make me feel invisible, and weaponize my depression against me. I take a similar approach to my grandpa by valuing the well-being of others and finding ways to support them even if I myself have nothing to gain from them. It is often through sharing important wisdom that allows them to navigate intense suffering as my grandpa would do. I don't know if this is why I'm drawn to teaching or not. I do find it kind of odd that I also am committed to open-mindedness like my grandpa was as he was also constantly learning through various fields. It is starting to sound like my values mirror my grandpa in many ways because that is the purest expression of love I ever experienced, hence it becomes what love means to me, hence it becomes my identity and how I act. I don't really know what else love would be because that is love as I have experienced it. At the end of the day I am stumped. If I speak with another human being seeking connection and love, then what exactly am I to expect or look for? Maybe I will need to ask people what exactly love means to them, how they express it, and what it would look like if someone loved them unconditionally. That might be the beginning of connection. What do you think?
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My understanding of spirituality has shifted my perspective on many aspects of relationships, but I'm not sure about break ups specifically. The closest thing I have found is that being is love and it does not necessarily require the presence of another human being to be felt. We have a lot of beliefs around what it means to love, but when we are wrapped up in these ideas it becomes performing love rather than being love. From this point of view love can be like my inner world giving a hug to a wounded child and allowing him to cry without trying to change it. Love seems to include the acceptance of pain rather than the avoidance and denial of it. This would mean that love is part of the grieving process and it is not actually absent even though it seems that way during a breakup. This would fit with things like unconditional love including letting go rather than clinging. It would still be more of a felt experience rather than an idea and an act about what we think love should be. Does this help?
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I have experienced two break ups in my life. The first one definitely hit hardest. The second one I was more relieved then anything because that second girl was a thorn in my side and she broke up with me because I refused to give into her emotional blackmail. My first romantic relationship is from when I was five and I met Alice. We wanted to get married, but we were separated because her parents moved and I had no way of contacting her. I used to be happy with her even though the other kids would make fun of me for having a girlfriend. I felt like I would be willing to die for her no matter what the other kids did to me. However I discovered that although no amount of suffering would ever make me regret being with her, once she was taken away my suffering became meaningless. It was like a void was placed inside of me the moment I realized that I would never see her again. I never really cried outwardly. I just told myself that I have to just get used to her being gone. Outwardly I would act normally, but on the inside I would quietly morn what could have been. This void never went away and often times I found myself hoping that she would one day come back or I would see her again. Imagining seeing her again often made me feel happy but I would eventually remember this is a lie. It seems that deep down I want this void inside of me to either go away or be filled. I have been looking for ways to fill this void nearly my entire life. To me it feels like this void is permanent and I just live with it. I never really cried about Alice though even though sometimes I feel happy imagining seeing her again. There is still part of me wishing to see her again even though my rational mind says that is never going to happen. in fact I would prefer to look forward to dating other women in the hopes that one day someone will be able to see me for who I am. Ultimately I would like a hug after being seen and heard rather than left to the sound of silence in the void. Occasionally my mind still goes to these crazy 1 in a million of seeing her again. This occasionally feels disruptive as it doesn't let me focus on more realistic probabilities. It seems that my coping mechanism largely involves fantasy and false hope. It still makes me feel happy even though part of me says it's not true.
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I remember I built confidence for chess tournaments. Before the tournament I would review my best winning games against strong opponents. Keeping these memories fresh reminds me of my strength and competence as a player. I feel like a winner walking into the chess tournament. The director already sees that I will win the tournament because I have a certain determined look in my eyes. Before the game I might sit in silence in a calm meditation to get in touch with presence and focus. Finally, I sit down at my table and I'm ready to play at my best.
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I've had a tense conflict within myself for a long time. Due to a dysfunctional childhood, I rejected my parents' way of life and developed a strict sense of morality in opposition to their criminal behavior. This strict moral compass included the domain of sexuality as well as I witnessed inappropriate behavior from other kids at school such as sexual assault. However, although I rejected these morally problematic behaviors, I still had part of me that would have intrusive fantasies including sexual assault fantasies after being assaulted myself and being confused by the pleasure with which the perpetrator acted. It was like part of me had some kind of desire to act out and do something impulsive that is thought to be improper. This is a tension that has been well known in philosophy and religion for a long time, but it has never been resolved in a healthy way. I started my investigation by looking at the history of how lust was understood in religion. I remembered that in ancient Christianity, lust was not just sexual desire, but it included other desires. I found that originally what we now call lust was supposed to mean any compulsive or obsessive desire that overrides better judgement. For example, in the case of sexual assault, it is not just sexual gratification, but it is mainly transgression seeking. Transgression seeking seems to be the source of much of this temptation. A serious problem in both religion and in schools is that they often have very uptight and strict moral codes. This uptightness creates what is called the forbidden fruit effect. When certain actions become so strongly condemned, it paradoxically adds to the temptation to actually make that transgression. This is why when religion strongly condemns sexual desires and lust as immoral, it creates purity culture which backfires by creating an environment in which many people in the church are now struggling with intrusive sexual fantasies. A similar problem happens in school. Kids don't want to be there and they are bored. The outcome of this environment is that the class clown will start violating social norms, gaining a lot of attention and laughs in the process. These are both examples of how strict moral rules and uptightness can end up creating the very problems they are trying to solve. So, it seems that these desires for transgression cannot be stopped with more morality. There needs to be someway to balance morality with this human desire for transgression that cannot be disciplined away. I started looking at people like comedians. Often times they make various sexual jokes. These sexual jokes are often very funny because they trigger the human desire for transgression, but do it in a way that is awkward, absurd, and satirized. For example, when I went to a comedy club and watched a comedian, he made jokes along the following lines. "Oh, hey I'm going to Starbucks." "why are you going to Starbucks?" "Oh, I'm not going to Starbucks to get coffee. I am going to Starbucks because there is a hole in the wall behind the counter that I use for my pleasure. Why did you think I was going to Starbucks?" The reason people find these sorts of jokes funny is because it takes our desire for transgression against social norms and satirizes them into absurdity. The fact that transgression seeking often takes a sexual form is almost incidental as there are various humorous ways to transgress social norms. The implications are that perhaps the tension we have around these social norms can be alleviated through humor, but it needs to be done in a way that does not cause harm to others. For example, a more problematic way of using sexual humor might be something like cat calling. There might be a group of men who start drawing attention to a woman's butt or breasts. This is much more likely to be offensive because the joke is directed at the woman. The difference between this example and the comedian is that the sexual joke was not directed at anyone in particular, but rather it was in an isolated situation that was satirized. This is why some ways of seeking transgression might be more acceptable than others. This makes is seem that our temptation and our desire for transgression can be channeled into harmless humor by poking fun at social norms. I have done this myself in various ways. For example, sometimes people would call me weird because my autistic behaviors. I would respond to this with something like "from my point of view everybody else is weird and I'm the only normal person in the room." Most people didn't seem to find this funny though. The reason I found it funny is because I was making fun of the relativity of normalcy. Normalcy is whatever the local group just happens to agree upon. This is why people in ancient Egypt would think we are bizarre because we are not worshipping animal headed Gods. Likewise, as someone with autism, my behavior feels natural and normal to me even if others might find it odd. In a group full of people with autism, my behavior would like seem much more acceptable and normal in that context. I did find a way to transgress social norms in a way that humorous, but not harmful. In this case I was in the hospital getting blood work done. I was stuck with a needle, but the doctor did not give me a lollypop. I started complaining about how I didn't get any candy in front of others despite being a grown adult. I complained that this was outrageous and unfair because I had a boo boo and nothing to show for it. Others seemed to find this very funny. The reason this is funny is because I am violating a commonly assumed social norm that adults should not receive candy, but children should receive candy. I started raising questions about why adults can't have candy. Is it because once I turn 18 it isn't manly enough to eat a box of chocolates so I have to smoke cigarettes instead? That isn't any healthier. This kind of social norm creates an air of professionalism, but it isn't actually morally necessary to not give adults candy. This kind of joke seemed to be well received because I was making fun of institutional norms rather than directing my joke at any particular person. Sometimes these norms are arbitrary and ultimately have no necessary moral basis for existing. A similar example would be something like the arbitrary social tension when getting in an elevator. Everybody stays quiet and it becomes artificially tense. This obviously opens the door for fart jokes that break the silence. The reason fart jokes are funny is because it breaks silent tension through basic bodily functions. Another example I found is when people ask me "how are you?" People don't expect a serious answer when they ask this, so I give an absurd answer instead. I tell them "I am like a flaming eagle eating a summer hot dog on the fourth of July." There are a wide range of absurd answers you could give to these kinds of questions that are not harmful to others. This kind of self-exploration has led me to a creative project in humor. I am trying to identify different social norms that can be safely violated without harming others. An interesting paradox is that if balanced correctly, this kind of non-harmful humor could lead more moral behavior by loosening up and releasing the uptightness around morality which itself is the source of strong temptation, creating a lack of inner harmony. However, it becomes risky if the joke is directed at a specific person, as this often becomes sexual harassment. This kind of behavior then does not get taken seriously because it is dismissed as just a joke or boys being boys when it actually is harmful. In such cases this kind of transgression seeking is not being properly channeled and it indeed does lead to morally problematic behavior. I also recognize that transgression seeking is common in issues like political correctness with conservatives being more likely to use racial slurs or dead name transgender people simply because it is that easy to cause an uproar by the leftist snowflakes. Once again, this is humor at someone else's expense which makes it morally problematic. What do you think about these reflections on morality, temptation, and humor? Are you able to identify any social norms that can safely be violated in a humorous way without harming others?
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There has been a shift in consciousness. Something is being recognized that wasn't being recognized before. It is something fundamental to existence. There is direct experience, interpretation of direct experience, imagination, and God. This thread will discuss what was seen and realized. Try to start off by recognizing the extent to which interpretation and imagination shape the experienced relationship with reality. Notice the extent of these interpretations and how they are often held as true or as reality. There is an interpretation that there is trueness in these interpretations and that they are reality without being recognized as imagination. For example, get in touch with this direct experience. Notice that in this direct experience there may be an interpretation that there is a you, a human being, experiencing this experience. Recognize that that is imagination being held as reality, but it is actually an interpretation of this experience. Try to focus consciousness on this recognition that you are a story being imagined within this is experience. There is reality, and then there is the interpretation that there is a you which is being held as true. It seems that this forum speaks of this a lot, but do you really see it? Part of your feelings and thoughts may look at these words and interpret it as mere philosophy. There is a deeply held interpretation that you are still a human being in this reality rather than reality itself, but it is so deeply held as real that just saying these things might not be enough to see it rather than merely believe it. Try to notice that you are imagining that you are a human being, and try to notice how this interpretation of reality might feel true and real. It actually isn't real. That is a story that you are a human being. Try to notice that you are imagining this. Of course there is also the imagination that there are others separate from me. This is an interpretation of direct experience such that the imagination is held as true reality. It starts to seem that perhaps the root of all evil is that fundamentally I feel that I am the only thing real in the universe. I never experience anything outside of me, yet I imagine that such things exist. The trick is that although the human being Trenton may not be omniscient, the universe is omniscient. The information travels around and may come across this human being Trenton, but the universe was never actually separate. Try to notice that there is an interpretation that things are separate from you rather than being you, and notice that this is imagination being held as reality. A source of confusion may be that awakening involves some crazy radical experience. This sets the wrong expectation. What is happening is nothing radical, but rather a subtle shift in consciousness which has radical implications. This subtle shift in consciousness is to recognize that your imagination and interpretations for what they are while getting in touch with direct experience. Try to see who you are without this conceptual overlay and the stories. It almost seems as if survival instincts drive one into imagination, stories, and falsehoods, making it difficult to see these stories for what they are. Actualized.org is founded on this one insight. All the other videos are exploring the implications of this one insight. This includes oneness, relativity, love, truth, deconstruction, spirituality, and so on and so forth. It appears that Leo is explaining what God is like. Recognize the Leo is also a story being imagined to be separate from you. It is almost like reality is being constructed through imagination, but the imagination does not recognize itself as imagination. This is what the spiritual teachings try to point out, but they become very abstract and then devolve into dogma and ideology. They may say that this is not about belief and ideology, but just hearing that does not allow you to notice the imagination that is held as reality. It is not enough to hear the talking. The shift in consciousness is what reveals what is being pointed to. There are many who have tried to point to this and put it into words. The words often cause more confusion because of the assumptions embedded in language which imply separation. Notice these assumptions being held in language that seem to imply that things are separate. There is a snuck premise or snuck interpretation that there really is a you and that there are separate others. The result is that trying to describe God might backfire because it is hard to notice this subtle difference in consciousness, hence the same old assumptions are held as reality and this as mere philosophy. Do you see it? Do you see that you are God imagining all of these stories which seem convincing and seem like reality? Are you absorbed in these stories so thoroughly that it is hard to see this subtle shift? Where is the you absorbed in these stories? Is that not more imagination and interpretations of experiences, feelings, and thoughts? Are these words still implying that there is a me separate from you, and thus causing confusion? The existence of you is a story being interpreted as real and as reality. That is imagination and only one particular way of experiencing reality. Try to notice suffering. Try to notice that the story that there is a you suffering exacerbates suffering because of this belief. What else to say? This is God and God is the only thing that is real. This kind of flips everything on its head when God is no longer held as a mere belief or idea that is not reality. The interpretation then becomes dominant leading to confusion. It becomes hard to see what is being pointed to. I am reality. I am God.
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To my memory, Leo appeared to treat this test as if it were proof that he was not a narcissist. According to my research on narcissism, he likely does have some narcissistic traits although it is hard to say to what degree and this test is not reliable. This also highlights to paradox of defensiveness where obviously a narcissist would not want to admit it because it seems undesirable, but at the same time there could be honest denial of exhibiting the traits to the extent that is claimed. At the end of the day, narcissistic traits do not make you a bad person because they are survival strategies that develop from dysfunctional families due to children not feeling loved or special. I understand that narcissistic traits typically come about from adverse childhood experiences, especially in dysfunctional families. If Leo's father was someone like a conman for example, then his father likely had some narcissistic behaviors. Children often learn these patterns of behavior from their parents in dysfunctional systems. A few narcissistic patterns seen in Leo in some cases might be things like holding his insights in a way that might make him seem special compared to others. This would be spiritual ego which happens automatically and beyond conscious control if it is rooted in a need to feel special. It is not something that can be consciously turned off if it is happening to you. That said, if Leo really is extremely conscious, then he probably has worked through a lot of shadow material which would be the root cause of narcissistic traits and behaviors. However, narcissism isn't something that can be eliminated entirely. It can be reduced or channeled in more productive ways, but it can't be eliminated completely. It seems to take a lot of unconditional self love and consciousness in order to allow these narcissistic patterns to be seen, understood, and accepted regardless of whether it is socially acceptable or not. Most narcissists fail at this because their self-esteem is too unstable to begin so they can't face this darkness within themselves. The result is that most narcissists never change and they continue with the same childhood survival strategy that will never bring them happiness and fulfillment because the entire complex is based on the lie that they are unworthy of love while they are trying to lie themselves into an alternate reality of grandiosity in which they appear to be loved, but it is still hollow.
