Intraplanetary

I heard Leo quite a few times saying he has the realisation of him never been born. He said this insight also occurs in the construct-aware stage. Can someone with the direct experience explain this? As far as I grasping it... okay, so, me as the self is imaginary. Everything about me is an illusion such as my identity, cultural conditioning, personality and the like. These are just agglomeration of thoughts that creates the self. But what about my physical body? Have I sill born as a human being??? So when Leo says he realised he has never been born, does he refers to the illusion of the self as I-thought or also his physical body?

Yes! This is an awesome insight. Music is about expressing emotions. And spirituality allows you to learn, understand and feel your emotions in very nuanced ways.

What methods have made you more creative? Psychedelics / meditation / something else? What would you say is the best method/s to increase your creativity out of many that involve consciousness work?

It's an awesome way of looking at a song ?

I second that. Personally, I had a mind-body insight into understanding that all fear I have, about doing what my heart desire, is illusory. This really changed me by removing the mental stories and limiting believes. I don't feel fear about creating and not being recognised or earn money out of music. I'm detached from the outcomes and feel confident enough to create just for the sake of creating.

@Inliytened1 Thanks ?? When I sit now alone and imagine others, they don't exist for me alone or at all? What about hearing cars passing... obviously someone is driving so it can't be that others don't exist at all? Is it then correct to say that we all exist as separate perception bubbles in one field? And I'm that field?

So, basically, whether I think, hence imagine, or have a direct experience with others, both ways this is imagination from a God's perspective? However, I don't have a POV as God, at least not yet. So from my current stage of development, is it normal to have what I'm having as I wrote in the thread? Or this is somehow a distorted way of looking from my perspective?

@alden Thanks for sharing. What do you mean by fear-based? How have you written and produced based on fear? What has been the fear about?

Does the dream exist when I awake? No. Does life exist when I 'die'? No. Niiice.

What does then? / what are your methods of increasing your baseline state?

Psychedelics actually allow you to experience the illusory nature of beliefs. What you thought is real and unchangeable, you can see that it's actually malleable and not fixed. I don't get new beliefs from my trips. I get rid of them slowly. What I get are insights about my nature and life which are different from beliefs.

But the birth still happened, right? That's how I came about as this body? It's just that all of this had happened within this imaginary reality we call life? This is very very helpful. I actually remember when I experienced ego-death. It wasn't only my identity that died but the whole reality merged into the void. When I came back I didn't realise I have a body... I had to touch and see myself to rediscover I have a body.

Brilliant. So insightful ?

Both are thoughts, both are illusions. @Tim R Do you realise that yourself? How does it make you feel?

@Mafortu Ego is not the body. So no, I don't identify myself as ego, at least I'm working on it as I grasp the illusory nature if it. But we have bodies? Or they are just an illusion? How similar or different to the illusion of thought?

Psychedelic experiences gradually rise my baseline consciousness and I can't help but adjust my daily life to align those experiences and insights I had. This is how you grow. Psychedelics enhance your spiritual journey as nothing else.

In one of his video, Leo gave a list of things on how to live a profound life. One of the things was: 'going beyond materialism and survival'. What do you think he means by going beyond survival? maybe he can answer himself @Leo Gura. What are the practices to go beyond survival? I can think of prolonged fasting and ego death through psychedelics. What else? What are your experiences?

@Nahm Thank you for elaborating. I made this thread with the intention to understand the exact practices I could do to put my ego on the line and practice to go beyond survival. I thought there are some concrete practices to apply but as I understand from other people who replyed is more about living conditions and goals I set for myself than anything else. Am I right? Or there are some things I could do now? Something more practical that could be used regularly. Otherwise, how do I detach from my ego? Meditation, yes. But I want to explore.

I haven't understood anything you wrote. Can you just be lil bi more clear about what are you trying to say? For the example, you wrote: 'Loving a whole bunch'. What do you mean? Then at the end, you said 'That is also useless & uncalled for'. What are you referring to?? thanks

That's very informative. Thank you. So to grow and self-actualised, as regards to surrogate motive, I should achieve my survival needs and goals and then drop that identity to move to impossible motive in order to self transcend?

Okay, so my mind creates reality and there is nothing else but me in my own bubble, for example when I think of someone, it is nothing more but a belief. And when I think/believe that someone thinks/believes in this or that way, it is actually just an assumption/belief I create. There is nothing real about it. So when I try to behave in a certain way because I think that this is the way I would be approved by someone, is it actually I’m just fitting in with my own imagination? Because how do I know what exactly that person thinks or believes? Do I make any sense? I think I've been grasping the understanding of my mind creating the reality and that everything that does not come into my direct experience is purely believing. Even the next room in my house is a belief because well, I’m not there and I can’t see it. I only imagine it to be there. So when I think of other people and how to be a person they may like… it’s actually just believes? So wtf am I doing if not trying to fit into my own created assumptions and believes???

Do I sound as if I was solipsising? I don't really know much about this philosophy at all btw. What is my mind? I feel that when meditating I get a better feel of what's my mind. It's an empty space in with thoughts and feelings floating around. But I think that's the wrong understanding... maybe my mind is everything there is in my direct experience?

The more I awaken to my emotions, thoughts and life, the more lonely I feel and become. I change. I care about what I say, what I do, how my words and actions affect others. I care about being authentic and accepting. And I walk this path alone. People that I know... don't understand me. But do I care to explain? But do they care to understand? Tomorrow, I'll dive deeper into my being by undertaking 11-day water fast. ''The spiritual path is from alone to Alone.'' I'm afraid and painfully lonely to walk it but something still pulls me that direction anyway. And I go.