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I want to address this. There is literally nothing to know about dating. Dating is two people acting on a curiosity and trying to see if one is a good fit for the other Try to really think about and embody this perspective. If you can you will see how manipulative mainstream dating advice has become. It's not a game of chess.

I've got 12 points on my record, a two day ban and more recently a 7 day ban. It's all part of the experience. But I haven't blamed those mods for their descisions. I just get on with it and keep in the back of my mind that I did something wrong in this context

I didn't see anyone get triggered so far with your contribution on the thread ?

I call this masculine presence or masculine integrity. If guys here want to know another way of looking at this they can study David Deida, who talks about the Masculine as the witness of everything, while the feminine is just everything. Nothingness and fullness as masculine and feminine. Being identified with the nothingness causes attraction because of the polarity. The old macho style Masculine is what the dating coaches try to teach, which is a mindset, it's actually an expression of feminine energy because no "mindset" belongs to the true Masculine nothingness. It's nothing, it has no quality. To be identified with the nothingess means to take a big picture perspective on the whole and not get entangled in the feminine dance and get lost in it. Dance with the feminine from the place of freedom from it. This is true confidence

Good advice there arc ^^^

@assx95 This is just plain wrong. Women do look after their own interest, but not in a relationship. In a relationship women are very much interested in you and your life purpose, what makes you tick. That's why women get into relationship, they are driven by relationship. Women cannot function well without relationship.

The problem is you were trying to be something you are not, and she sensed it and rejected you. Confident people do indeed get what they want, but you actually have to be that person for it to work. Just be yourself next time , I know it's hard when we have a whole self development industry telling us that there is something wrong with us and that we need to become the best version of ourselves (which is partially true) but that doesn't mean we adopt ideas that are foreign to our nature. When I was in my teens I was quiet and I didn't talk to girls unless the struck a conversation up with me, and I'll tell you that I had girls literally throwing themselves at me since I was 15. Even older women found me fascinating to be around. It was because I was myself without apology and reservation. I'm not saying this to try to make you feel less than me, I'm saying it because I want you to know that the most attractive thing is just being in alignment with yourself. That's the big key here, if you can just be comfortable with yourself and know what you want from life in regards to your life purpose then everything will take care of itself, you don't have to change, you just enjoy the journey and let change take care of itself.

@wesyasz Well, it's a stimulant, so yeah it can make you feel more awake.

The thing is a lot of it is a scam. It's very hard to sort the wheat from the chaff, it's much easier to depend on your own capacity to generate insight. That's what self development is anyway.

@Identity @Identity Do you find a lot of people not understanding you? I work with a predominantly orange crowd and a proportion of blue and orange can handle a semi decent conversation but most things I say to blue goes completely over their head. And I don't even let on that I'm into self development. I just find that lower levels don't have the capacity to generate insight and tend to rely on repetitive familiar mind patterns. There is not a lot of creativity. At first I found it frustrating that I had to pretend, but now I just find it amusing. When you reach a certain level of development there comes this existential loneliness with it and you realize that everyone really is living in a bubble. Studying spriral dynamics only confirms this for me, but now I have studied the model for some time now I have come to learn to accept what is going on and embrace it.

@milii What was your career? What happened?

Having an understanding of the ego will help you with your friendships because every time you get a glimpse of true nature you release a little bit of fear. But in order to understand the ego you got to understand the concept of "everyone else" and the story of a so called society and all these little traps that keep you identified with it. Saying to yourself that others are woke is kind of bullshitting yourself, it's better to see the ego for what it is, unconsciousness, and within that spectrum of unconsciousness there are varying degrees of fear

This is your imagination. Most people are not aware of the ego, that's just a fact of life. An awake person is not going to reject you because they perceive you as "low status". If you find that this is what people are doing to you then it's better to see the collective ego game for what it is. For the sake of this thought experiment, I would put you at very low level of unconscious identification, where the people who you look up to as better than you are slightly more aware of their behaviour. This doesn't make them aware of the ego, it just means they are slightly less unconscious than you. When you actually have relationships with people (rather than analysis from your perspective as you do) you will realize most are unconscious. Ego aware and construct aware are levels beyond yellow, everyone has access to all the stages, but most are at blue orange and green and fixated there.

@28 cm unbuffed You can say anything you want to a woman as long as you're not being triggered yourself. That's how to play the masculine - feminine polarity games. Come from your purpose , which is not in your mind, it's from resting as the unaffected witness

You can challenge her, but it wasn't coming from the heart, so you came off as a dick

Thanks for demonstrating to the guys how to be taken over by feminine energy. This is a really good example of wuss behaviour and one of the reasons dating coaches make so much money off of young guys these days

Is this necessary?

I'm not asking you to think my thoughts. I always try to suggest people find their purpose in life. That's something obviously unique to them and will create a lot of positive thought from their own being. I like to just give a little pointer to people's own potential

@Mikael89 Can I ask what's going on with you personally? I read some of your posts and I thought you were the last person who would be reading a mark manson book. Some of the pessimistic ideas you have about yourself and life in general don't match this idea of self improvement via dating coaches. Polarized !

it's not hate, I'm just repeating myself in order to keep asserting that it's not necessary to consult a dating coach for any advice. Repetition is a good teacher and hopefully people will get what I'm saying if I tell it from a few different angles. But the bottom line is always the same, find your purpose in life and everything else will happen for you Think your own thoughts, not someone else's. That's all (although I'm very good looking, so I think that helps lol)

What is he trying to say? Because what he has said so far is not true and you can tell that he has only read this as a concept and has no actual experience. Even if he has had a relationship or a series of relationship or even become successful in the field , he is still not ready to commit to a woman.

He is a pick up artist. Just a once over of his publicity page you posted tells us everything. Gotta have eyes to see it first tho.

Maybe there is something I'm missing? But why would that be the case as I'm already with someone and we are both happy? I don't need dating books. I would advise guys who are struggling to read John gray or David Deida. But I'd never recommend a pua or someone who sounds like they got their worldview reading Robert greens 48 laws of power lol Manson just sounds like a bit of a sleaze because you can already see his frame, he's still a needy guy who doesn't know what it's like to have a relationship

@Mikael89 You know, dude, there are a lot of strange people in the dating pick up world. Any guy that has had to pick up a book to learn how to start a relationship with another person is already weird. Never mind taking it to the next level and becoming a "dating coach". Not that learning about relationships is bad, it's good, but these guys who become pick up artists are not to be taken seriously.

Get a second opinion if you're not sure. Ask one of your friends who's married to read mark Manson's material and they will definitely tell you that he doesnt know what he's talking about. His ideas are weird