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@allislove Defo out of my league ?

@allislove Oooooh, I see! Enlightenment is tripping... Got it

indeed... that's unconditional love for ya!

Wtf does that even mean... ?‍♂️ "Seeing what is and not seeing what's not." -- Jed McKenna I also like how @Tim R puts it.

I seem to remember there being some interesting interviews of Marilyn Manson on youtube, if you're interested in him as an artist or person. ?

And neither both nor neither and/or neither and both maybe perhaps or not... (gotta love the catuskoti)

https://www.wisefoolpress.com/free/2see1/ https://www.wisefoolpress.com/free/2see2/ https://www.wisefoolpress.com/free/2see3/

Last I checked, everything is empty and everything is mind ?

Say more?

Maybe the sensory seeing is just a metaphor for the real seeing...

@Some Fella ? ? ?

@dyslexicCnut I don't really see much as defects anymore, so the question of tolerance comes up less. Perception drives behavior. Looks like I simply mistook this whole thread for something else how embarassing... I remember your other thread about the unpleasant nature of reality, so I assumed you were driven to "the search" out of suffering. Someone in that position can easily get triggered by people who take it less than serious. Because to them, it's literally life or death. I'm sure you can see how that would be much more relevant to them than the silly partisan shenanigans of the day. So I thought that's where you were coming from. ?‍♂️

@dyslexicCnut Ok thanks for that and apologies for any confusion. I don't venture out of this subsection much, politics least of all, so I was unaware that it had spilled over into this thread. All I saw was two "joke" videos about enlightenment, and I assumed that's what you reacted against. I hadn't even noticed that OP's name was Enlightenment ? so... that's where I wrote my replies from. Nothing to do with politics, nor with OP. Hope that makes sense...

@dyslexicCnut Btw I'm probably stupid but I don't get how this was a political/partisan issue, so maybe I misinterpreted why you reacted the way you did. FWIW...

Main takeaway is that you don't try to make your reactions "wrong". Repression can only ever take you in the opposite direction of where you want to go. Perception drives behaviour, not the other way around. Or I guess in "spiritual" terms, "right view" leads to "right action". And given your perceptions, your reactions are perfectly natural and valid. The key here, and in general, is that you address root causes, which are your perceptions. The other way around doesn't work. That's one way of framing "the path": Addressing mistaken perceptions. Everything else follows from that. And that's very different from all the endless self-improvement projects where somehow you're just never good enough. That's a non-starter, not just because it doesn't work but because that in itself is a mistaken perception. That said, you're not entirely wrong about what you see as "enlightenment cretins". Your reaction against it merely suggests, to your credit, that you take it a lot more seriously than they do. And also to your credit, you can tell the difference. Hence my previous reply. "Thy shrunk voice sounds too calmly, sanely woeful to me. In no Paradise myself, I am impatient of all misery in others that is not mad. Thou shouldst go mad, blacksmith; say, why dost thou not go mad? How canst thou endure without being mad? Do the heavens yet hate thee, that thou canst not go mad?" -- Ahab

@mandyjw "If a man speaks his mind in a forest, and there is no woman to hear him... is he still wrong?" ? -- Sir Ken Robinson

A strategy is still being formulated...

@Dodo If I can't take masturbation with me, I ain't going

@mandyjw Credit where credit's due, I had never associated Rick Astley with masturbation before. I must not be unconditionally loving enough...

@mandyjw How unenlightened of you. Mental masturbate much?

@mandyjw Careful, I could argue anything I want

Can't argue with that...

Patriarchy! ?

I agree with that ?