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@Leo Gura Okay. I personally won’t use the test.... but his epistemology and teachings seem heavily rooted in its use. I’m not sure where the sloppiness lies. You are Jared.

@Leo Gura I’ll burn in this fire of, being pumped by this author and then very annoyed at the two of you Haha i want something that maybe is implicit to my direct experience. I want to know if this is wasting my time, and if I am reading this person am I endangering my own epistemology...

@Leo Gura I want the books I read to catapult me forward with my growth. Very interested in mass awakenings and mass movements

@Leo Gura Yeah, so far that seems obvious to me. But Leo, the entire basis of the calibration IS the muscle response test. He clearly is very educated and enlightened. Transcending the levels of consciousness really resonates with me. But, he also claims our our muscle act as a truth thermometer ?. (Ive been diving deep into 5meodmt. I’m reading the book list as well as my own books. So many awakenings.) I am here to know. To see and to be the eyes of the planet. Not ego and belief. So strangely , clearly I cant throw out the muscle test all together. Though Something isn’t adding up. If someone is so smart and developed how can they themselves put so much ‘faith’ into a practice which even laymen would laugh at? Or perhaps this is because I calibrate under 200... But also, he now becomes someone in which I may read but not openly recommend.

@Leo Gura I missed this one, just came across the post. Like I said, in the future!

@Leo Gura ? that’s that Nevada witch bias I see

@Leo Gura Thanks... Why have it on the book list? and, is it worth my time reading? I want the truth, not some bold guy who things his arm tells him the truth. Yet, the scale resonates with me and it seems to have congruence with the world value survey, maslows hierarchy of needs, spiral dynamics...

Dang, I’ll be a great mod in the future.

@Leo Gura I am afraid of love. But, with your teachings and radical action, I am claiming my temple to sit on my thrown. Love, is so multi-dimensional I think. To fully integrate it would be impossible without things like 5Meo and LSD. Also, Art and life long learning in the information Age. I've had soooo many awakenings. Not just with 5MeoDMT but, 5MeoDipt (Vision Quest... Amazing...Shamanic..) and 5MeoMiPT (Awakening of a wild love (Thick Face Black Heart Love for myself and others). 5MeoDMT is a catalyst for me so far. Amazing. I blew through a tonne of it. God is Good! Death is Good! and Life Purpose is good! (Leo, I had this moment where I was like... OHHHH I AMMM Leo Gura!! ahaha and now I know it) (The Leo Guuuuuuuuura) Counterintuitive though, because in the same process of awakenings I felt deep deep gratitude for Leos Teachings, but also a deep understanding that I created Leo to wake myself up. (not being attached to any belief here) And I am in the process of rapidly becoming a sovereign being and fountain of love!

It's Love! I was so afraid of 5meo... but after low doses it's just great. Meditation on steriods.

What is the most often you are doing 5meodmt? Is it dangerous if done frequently in low doses?

@Kshantivadin The problem is, your far enough to see through some veils, but not far enough to see the benefits. You are free to choose your own spiritual path. I recently participated in an online festival from Ista Temple Arts called "Spiritual, sexual, Shamanic" and it was the most profound spiritual experience that integrated and showed me what spiritual sexuality is. and it is key. Integration is vaste. Once you see the ego die enough times, you have the map built up enough, you observe enough you can create any experience you want. Leo is right about paranormal experiences. I experienced shamanic possession and a vision quest.

@acidgoofy Can Confirm it works nicely, give time for control. I don't think I have completely broken through though more experimentation is needed.

Us Vs Them is duality, and often the dialogue for Us vs Them, because it is built on identity and not facts, truth, and nuance makes it hard for either party to get what they want. For example, if you think the wage gap exists because you are a feminist and therefore its because of patriarchal tyranny. and if you don't agree your a sexist, white elitist.... While if you were a feminist who was not in this With us or against us mentality you would be open and aware to different opinions without identifying others as against you based on difference in structure of opinion. You would be open to mutli-variance analysis on the pay wage gap and be open to exploring the subject in a way that you couldn't if you were too busy being caught up in identity politics. Us Vs Them: Content Vs Structure.

Are you saying that developing our awareness is counter-intuitive and to increase it we must BE not force or try? Even though, I've noticed in my direct experience a bit of Try and a bit of BE works best

I used a Herb vape, so the temperature is a lot lower than if I use a pipe and flame. I found I could vape it until a point I am at my limit... turn off the vape.. Die, and then keep hitting the vape and maybe go through it again.

There are a few different types of psychedlics I have discovered: 5MeO-MET, 5MeO-DPT, 5MEOMiPT, theres various types of simple tryptamines, and various kinds of 4-HO... Basically I have realized there tonnes of different chemicals out there. A whole landscape to explore.

Man, amazing to hear your take on the trip. I was inspired to leave my trip here too. I look further to reading future reports. and sharing! --- Okay, So did MeO for first time yesterday. 1. Vaped (460f) 2. Approximately 3mg I've been slowly increasing the heat, and on other trips increasing the dosage. I've experienced ego death 2 or 3 times now. I loved it I do admit that When I feel it speeeeeeeeeeding up my ego will just in and say 'Okay thats enough there boyo just sit here and observe. You have lots of time to tread further later on' then I just relax and die. I know there is further to go. I love the happiness that 5Meo sparks in me, I took it while outside in a very low dose, in a place I know is safe because I write there often. It for me was a sacred space. I love it. It feels clean, clear, sparks love in the heart, allows you to experience ego death. Fuller smooth bodied insights. ... No god yet. But, it is a smooth, amazing experience that I recommend to everyone vaped, in low dosage. It could easily be used for pleasure. Part of me felt sad. Part of me wanted a more profound change to my experience and my thoughts. I wan't more insights. I want to develop my vision, and transecend fear and live in creation. Perhaps though, I know 5Meo isn't going to show me this. But, could I think help me develop a cleaner system to build from.

'No, it couldnt be... I can't be love' God- 'It is'

Happy Birthday Leo!

@Leo Gura Just got some 5meo, but its so tiny! I mean I knew it was only 250 mgs but ahaha yeah. I don't have a scale yet...

I recommend the fabulous App. It's in your head, energy, and overall state of being. It has nothing to do with external stuff, and money. Which is great because it means you have the power. https://www.thefabulous.co/

I am thinking about doing it soon, however with Covid I won't be likely to see anyone else, like a sitter. Sitter seems like a good Idea. Would it be SUPER dangerous to do it solo? I'll start small and work my way up, take proper precautions other than.

I found a very powerful quote I think sums up how I feel about Leo's presentation style, those who are making videos to judge him, and the maze like web of other view points about what truth is that exists out there: "A good man's outward appearance and actions sometimes may appear cruel and violent and his expression egotistical, yet he possesses a pure heart within. On the other hand, a false prophet may express an apparent high degree of outward humility and gentleness, but inwardly his sole objective is self-gain. A false prophet in order to thrive, is dependant on the approval of the public, whereas a good man lives in harmony with himself-he neither seeks nor needs external approval. The natural way of Thick Face, Black Heart is beyond human manipulation, beyond petty standards of human judgement. When one acts in harmony with the universal Will, one's actions are aligned with the good of all and benefit of all. You are neither self-righteous nor eager to please; nor are you seeking approval. In action, you are swift, competent, and dispassionate. In yielding, you are unabashed and have no concern for other's judgments. In conquering, you are effective and can be ruthless. In action and nonaction, you are changeless. You are a true Thick Face, Black Heart practitioner. " -Chin Ning Chu, Black Face Thick Heart

I don't trust her, I can't tell if she is a psychopath or what?