Thought Art

@Elliott I would disagree that technology is net 0. You think light bulbs are net 0? Or the printing press? Or the telephone? Even these inventors may come from varied backgrounds. You can simply Google these names. But, if you disagree that technology counts as progress at all, then I see your perspective. You could argue the same for Jesus… all the bloodshed and pedos that came after that guy. Jeez. You could even argue what Jesus did was aweful for spirituality because it resulted in this dumb personality cult. Martin Luther king led to Donald trump…. Shindler led to genocide in Gaza…. I am not saying this literally, but the net result of a lot of these things is hard to quantify and often any major change has good and bad as a result for at least someone somewhere. Cultural and Moral change is powerful, and is probably more important than technological develop in many respects because it’s the development of how we look and act with reality which then determines how we relate to technology etc. As I said before, I was wrong that change makers all had money (though, they still made use of it in some way or another). So, money is important as is technology and moral and ego development. IMO. But, yeah many leaders of the past may not have been rich. But, there are many too I’m sure. Bernie Sander’s is a millionaire. Leo Gura is too. They exist. They didn’t become success I assume because they were poor. At least not alone. But, because they had a purpose and a vision and the means to achieve it. Perhaps, the change you want to create requires money. Perhaps it doesn’t.

@Elliott You will find examples in different areas of human progress. Some were rich some were poor. You’ve listed a number of people largely in cultural or social domains who were purpose driven and managed to have influence but not money. There also many examples of those who have helped the world who are rich. Perhaps we would find moral, religious social leaders have not much wealth but business, technological and institutional leaders do. Both are crucial for our growth and development as a species. But of course, money helps if you are developed and conscious enough in all domains. But, yes I was wrong that only those who make an impact are rich. But, realistically it’s not easy. And, when you consider the problem of marketing in today’s age is not easy. Helping the world requires you actually want that more than anything else, whatever way it is you help. Whether you do that with or without money is context dependant. Still, I want wealth and I want to serve.

@Hatfort TYT is trash 🚮. They don’t actually have that much intellectual integrity or understanding of the things they talk about. I am not saying this thing in particular but it’s a general observation I’ve made over the years. So many of these alternative news sources are trash.

Is being and dreaming the same?

@Elliott Are you sure they weren’t rich? I mean, sure some example like Gandhi… but, who are you thinking about that wasn’t rich who actually made large change in the world?

Ride the wave. After this you will feel better and have grown if you go through this consciously.

It would be great if the forum worked instead of always glitching out

I’d say wealthier people tend to be less toxic than a poor person. There may be extremes at both ends. All these homeless pissing on the sidewalks of Montreal causing the place to smell like shit, I’m sure are enjoying life far worse and are worse for society than the rich in that city. I wish there was a way to remove them. Obviously they aren’t going to change and they are such a burden. Why are people poor? They didn’t invest, they aren’t educated, they didn’t think long term, etc. I mean, that’s a lower quality human generally. Recently, I’ve grown a hatred of the homeless. Not to sound like… whatever. But, they totally ruin what would be a nice city. I don’t know the solution but there is no saving these people. It makes sense to be rich in life. Poverty, is stupidity if you are young… decide to do whatever it takes to be rich and physically and mentally healthy at any cost. The idea that poverty and spirituality go together is one of the biggest and saddest traps for young people.

Why dream?

How is any of that “the rational thing to do”? As in, turning on a light when it’s dark if you want to see is the rational thing to do. But, the things you list are values, not rational. The more I learn about rationality, the more I realize that each stage uses rationality in a different way. What is rational, perhaps depends on values too. Sort of replied without thinking too deeply.

@Leo Gura I just ordered one of them too.

I second this

@Leo Gura Why is post modernism devilry?

You need to see how it’s only fear blocking you. Just approach and talk.

Let your heart hurt, and feel the pain with curious openness. Keep dating girls.

Hmmmm, that is paradoxical. Especially because of the real dividing the real being real.

Leo, I think you fall for negative youtube videos on people sometimes.

Hmm, I think it’s good to be open and humble about the conclusions drawn from tripping.

@Leo Gura It would at least make for an enjoyable life

There are kind people though. But, yeah, sadly many of my bubbles have been broken. There are a lot of of ignorant and selfish people out there. Choose your job wisely. Also, be careful of your framing. The goal is to see the beauty in reality, and to love it regardless. That is strength. Complain while you have to, but then grow stronger, more loving and stand tall. Give, and be loving despite the shit. "A Sperm leeches off an egg" is not a true or proper framing. A sperm fertilizes and nourishes an egg. Don't let the darkness fester in areas it doesn't. Can you see the selfishness of others and still love them? Can you see human nature and still love them? Instead of craving and needing love from others, can you be loving? There are kind people out there. They really are everywhere too. This is the benefit of doing personal development, studying psychology, going through challenging situations and thickening your skin. Don't become bitter though. Learn to love. Be strong enough to love.

I like Deepak's take on using AI for personal growth and spiritual development.

Leo's recent post about him being a weird, or out of the ordinary guy and how you need to be yourself is interesting in it's timing. I almost made a post about this today.

Owen calls it "wanky time"

The Toaist way. It’s also more comfortable.