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I've had DMT peaks that were beyond language. I mean, I can't really remember because it's so strange. But, I've seen that this is my own mind. Totally, crazy wild. Just, amazing experiences that showed me my infinite intelligence. Spiraling shapes, geometric orbits and Aztec faces melting all time and matter into itself. But, was there English in that super mind? or did I use English afterward? I am not sure. DMT is, something else. I know what I've seen with DMT, and I really can't do it for years I think because it's so jarring and extreme. But, it did show me something I can't deny. My mind, my consciousness is God. I am alone the one who dreams. I mean, it's so obvious in those states. But, it's also so perfectly constructed and seamless that other might as well exist. "(I know so well that this is all there is)".

@puporing Okay. I am right here.

@puporing Okay, Christ. Higher state. I'll stay open minded. I really am still learning. It doesn't make sense to me, that a higher awakening would be an ego.

@puporing If you are referring to a state as Christ? How would you describe it? Compassion, love? Oneness with God? Or, are you Christ the man, the legend. See, when you say that to me I am thinking... What aspect of social construction, from what framing are you saying you are "Christ". Because, in human existence, there is Billions of Years before "Christ" which things existed, lived and died. So, It's not possible we all came from Christ because Christ would have had to come from Infinity just like every other finite thing. Christ, is less interesting to me than God. When I experience infinity, the absolute, perfection, infinite love, immortality... I don't think or identify it with Christ. I just think it's myself. Idk. It's just my own mind. I've existed for eternity and I am just dreaming. This, mysterious existence which is here. For some reason. The fact that it's a field is really boggling to me. I'd like to contemplate that more.

@puporing Okie dokie. I just told you, I am sharing my perspective. I frankly don't think you are at a higher state of consciousness. I just don't see how you've demonstrated it. Unless, it's entirely implicit. But, what am I to gain in doubting you? My own perspective and how I actually think about the things you say and do. I personally, have no idea what you experience. But, you act like you are at this higher point of awareness than everyone here... But, how would you know that? You don't. You are using Christ name to boost your ego, in my view, perhaps. Or, maybe there is something else going on. I really don't know.

@Leo Gura I am using Ego in terms of my particular collection of database, and my mental filters, including culture, language, etc. Do they come to me in English? Or, am I interpreting through English? God isn't talking to me as some other. I've never had a conversation with God. I just have my own thoughts and experiences. This does raise interesting points. I am Truth, I speak English. So, it's all paradoxically equally true? I guess, I don't really get your point. Everything is God's mind. There isn't really escaping that. There is pure mind and how pure mind expresses itself to finite minds in awakenings can come in many forms. I prefer to teach Qigong than preach of how I am Jesus Christ. My love is direct for those who practice with me. I don't need to preach or convert. @puporing I have no interest in being your teacher. I think you are identifying with a finite mental construction. But, you can do as you please. This seems to bring you meaning and is personal to you. My views and points are different. I have no interest in coddling that while also not meaning disrespect. Do I believe this person is literally "the second coming of Christ"? I mean, what does that even mean? Do you think people should pray to you or bow to you? Why does being Christ matter? What about the thousands of other second comings of Christ walking around?

@Leo Gura Yeah? I've never had God speak to me personally. My mystical experiences tend to be... more direct. Mystical experiences are laden with Ego, unless you completely and utterly break through. For example, DMT experiences are far beyond Christ. I can't put DMT into words. But, it's earth shattering when the whole universe folds in on itself and recognizes it's imagining the entire room and starts folding in and out and around into aztec masks and shapes in Hyper HD. Total non-dual infinity and complete understanding is beyond Christ. Ever reach that nasty little paradox that you don't exist? Damn. But, sure there are many mystical experiences for Christians, or any religion. God speaks your language. But those are low level awakenings in my opinion. Awakenings in a dress. That is aspects of ego. Ken Wilbur speaks of this in "Finding Radial Wholeness". You can have mystical experiences of nature, christ, etc. These are genuine awakenings. But they aren't the highest awakening, like "Pure Taste" or other non-dual states. They aren't God consciousness. I am humble, I've had awakenings but I am still integrating and developing a deeper maturity and mastery of my consciousness. I know there is still a lot for me to understand. I am really just getting started.

@Leo Gura Yeah, because people who never heard of Christ are known to have Christ awakenings... Right. When you awaken, or have mystical experience your data base is often mixed into it. That's a tangent or aspect of your ego. If Christ wasn't a part of your data base, why would you have that? Also, there are degrees of awakening. God is infinite. Christ, is finite aspect of collective and individual ego. Now, it's all God. That fine! Like, you can't escape that Christ is God. Rat is God. I am the second coming of Rat.

Christ = Ego

@shree I'd find a flame free way of doing it. I know there are posts about this.

You guys would get along.

@Hojo I don’t deny that. But, we know what MAGA is now after almost a decade. It’s like comparing apples and oranges. I see what you are saying though. That’s called “heuristics”, and that’s why said I “understandably so”. We understand MAGA. Their views are public and they are the ones sharing that. We heard lots of critiques too. But, lots of people just use hearsay to navigate the world. That’s just the sad reality.

@Hojo I am not trying to change their minds. Just pointing out what is happening to give others a healthy perspective. No one here is promoting pedophilia (forgive me mods I can change this if needed) but, fuck anyone who spreads that shit. It’s fucking rude, and it’s a shame people are so stupid to not look into things before they say shit online or to others. We have a forum guideline which explains what the forum is about.

@Hojo I am saying it gets pointed out a lot because someone spread a webpage making the comparison. Not because people know the logo. I did not see any proof that the logo was actually real. No one would willingly make their logo something so ugly and then make a personal development brand which has nothing to do with it. No one in reality actual thinks when they see it that it’s a pedo logo”. I am talking about all the businesses that use that shape. Society does not think that shape is a pedo shape, like they think the swastika is a sign of hatred. The logo is commonly used in society.

@Hojo Nah, it’s not like the pedo logo gets to own that shape. It’s a common shape in industry. It’s common in engineering industry based on my research. “Rightly so”, perhaps not, but understandly so. I get why people think that. You can create that sort of logic if you want that spirituality and Pedophilia are connected…. That two people have the same name or similar logo share values or sexual orientations, but that’s not how reality works. It’s a low quality interpretation based on assumption and cognitive heuristic, not quality thinking. Look at the Swastika, and look how the Nazi’s ruined that shape for everyone probably for the rest of human history. What was created to intend Unity thousands of years before was bastardized by the Nazi’s evil. I was always drawn to the value in personal development Leo provides. How people responded to the Logo has bothered me and still does. It’s a pretty shitty rumour to spread. The rumour was created by someone because most people don’t know what a “Pedophilia logo” is and when told that they just believed it. Made this lazy ass connection….someone went out of their way to create a logo. “Hey, this is a pedophilia logo” looks just like Actualized… it’s silly. I’m sure there is more than one disgusting group of pedos out there and in history who have their own logos. You better watch out!! You could share a Logo with some asshole out there! The logo thing was spread because someone wanted to hurt Leo. They wanted to discredit him because they were threatened by his ideas. Healthy people don’t spread those sorts of nasty things. Someone went out of their way to spread the rumour, create the post. It wasn’t done in good faith and the person who created it knows it. To the extent someone is a pedophile is their actions. That’s the reality, not logos. The Actualized brand is about philosophy, truth and personal development. That’s what Leo is talking about in his videos. That’s the brand. That’s the community. There are assholes in this world. Spreading baseless rumour about people online is just because that person spreading it is an asshole.

He may have just found a clip online and share it... @Hojo The logo wasn't a blunder I don't think. People were trying to hurt his reputation and found a way. Trolls be trolling. That image is used in many logos.

Idk he’s trying to annex Canada.. 🇨🇦

Throwing up and shitting aren’t required

@Lyubov Yeah Humans have known this for thousands of years.

Yeah it is. The amount of businesses that have that exact triangle on them though is so funny. I used to work for a mechanical contractor who had the same logo.

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Forum relapse. Gotta go.

I’ll heal and mature any sort of wounds in my soul. And from this a wise mature man will stand!