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Christ = Ego

@shree I'd find a flame free way of doing it. I know there are posts about this.

You guys would get along.

@Hojo I don’t deny that. But, we know what MAGA is now after almost a decade. It’s like comparing apples and oranges. I see what you are saying though. That’s called “heuristics”, and that’s why said I “understandably so”. We understand MAGA. Their views are public and they are the ones sharing that. We heard lots of critiques too. But, lots of people just use hearsay to navigate the world. That’s just the sad reality.

@Hojo I am not trying to change their minds. Just pointing out what is happening to give others a healthy perspective. No one here is promoting pedophilia (forgive me mods I can change this if needed) but, fuck anyone who spreads that shit. It’s fucking rude, and it’s a shame people are so stupid to not look into things before they say shit online or to others. We have a forum guideline which explains what the forum is about.

@Hojo I am saying it gets pointed out a lot because someone spread a webpage making the comparison. Not because people know the logo. I did not see any proof that the logo was actually real. No one would willingly make their logo something so ugly and then make a personal development brand which has nothing to do with it. No one in reality actual thinks when they see it that it’s a pedo logo”. I am talking about all the businesses that use that shape. Society does not think that shape is a pedo shape, like they think the swastika is a sign of hatred. The logo is commonly used in society.

@Hojo Nah, it’s not like the pedo logo gets to own that shape. It’s a common shape in industry. It’s common in engineering industry based on my research. “Rightly so”, perhaps not, but understandly so. I get why people think that. You can create that sort of logic if you want that spirituality and Pedophilia are connected…. That two people have the same name or similar logo share values or sexual orientations, but that’s not how reality works. It’s a low quality interpretation based on assumption and cognitive heuristic, not quality thinking. Look at the Swastika, and look how the Nazi’s ruined that shape for everyone probably for the rest of human history. What was created to intend Unity thousands of years before was bastardized by the Nazi’s evil. I was always drawn to the value in personal development Leo provides. How people responded to the Logo has bothered me and still does. It’s a pretty shitty rumour to spread. The rumour was created by someone because most people don’t know what a “Pedophilia logo” is and when told that they just believed it. Made this lazy ass connection….someone went out of their way to create a logo. “Hey, this is a pedophilia logo” looks just like Actualized… it’s silly. I’m sure there is more than one disgusting group of pedos out there and in history who have their own logos. You better watch out!! You could share a Logo with some asshole out there! The logo thing was spread because someone wanted to hurt Leo. They wanted to discredit him because they were threatened by his ideas. Healthy people don’t spread those sorts of nasty things. Someone went out of their way to spread the rumour, create the post. It wasn’t done in good faith and the person who created it knows it. To the extent someone is a pedophile is their actions. That’s the reality, not logos. The Actualized brand is about philosophy, truth and personal development. That’s what Leo is talking about in his videos. That’s the brand. That’s the community. There are assholes in this world. Spreading baseless rumour about people online is just because that person spreading it is an asshole.

He may have just found a clip online and share it... @Hojo The logo wasn't a blunder I don't think. People were trying to hurt his reputation and found a way. Trolls be trolling. That image is used in many logos.

Idk he’s trying to annex Canada.. 🇨🇦

Throwing up and shitting aren’t required

@Lyubov Yeah Humans have known this for thousands of years.

Yeah it is. The amount of businesses that have that exact triangle on them though is so funny. I used to work for a mechanical contractor who had the same logo.

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Forum relapse. Gotta go.

I’ll heal and mature any sort of wounds in my soul. And from this a wise mature man will stand!

Posting limitations! Mixed feelings but fair.

I was thinking about Leo’s post on consciousness, While I read this quote from Dr Yangs “The Roots of Chinese Qigong” ”Indeed the author has clearly demonstrated that Qigong is based entirely on scientific principles of energy that were known to the ancient Daoist masters who developed it long before Eisenstein first informed Western science that energy and matter are relative and transmutable elements” - Daniel Reid That last line about the relationship of energy and matter my mind made a leap… this very relationship, implies consciousness! Fundamental reality being “matter” or a “wave” or “energy” is exactly what consciousness is! But, its consciousness that is “changing” its relative form. This “matter” “”wave duality is the building blocks for imagination to take place. Because reality transcends them and includes them in its “mind” all of reality is possible. But, I’m pointing to something deeper than human existence. I am pointing to “Toaetle’s Mask”.

@integral AI whyyy Did you write the lyrics or is all AI?

@Jodistrict Counterintuitive though is how important guilt and shame can be if met consciously for growth. Some of the deepest spiritual growth requires going through those difficult emotions not avoid them.

@puporing Yeah, well. I am not trying to be above anyone. I know I've seen you make statements about worshipping Leo, I don't recall the context in perfection. But, I recall you said something like that. Sometimes I think you come off as a subtle if not direct "I am Jesus Christ bow before me." I am not going to respond to that type of dynamic. What I look for in leaders is not claims or boasting but quality. Everyone might as well be Jesus honestly. Then, here we are. Exactly where we are. We really don't know anything about the guy. Other than what was written about him. But, anyway.

No way. There is a lot of gold to be mined in all of them if you have the right mind for it. I enjoy listening to Sufis like Ibn Arabi for example. He has some top notch non-dual writings.. I think there is gold in Buddhist dharma like the 8 fold path, I think there is value in Christian teachings, stories, and even the "Archetype" of Jesus. I enjoy certain aspects of Hinduism, especially non-dual shiva tantra it has some really interesting maps. I enjoy these things for their own sake. I see them as relative enjoyments and ways of maturing myself. But, I don't confuse them for awakening. That being said... I am not dumb enough to be a Hindu, Sufi, Taoist, Buddhist, or Christian. I see these as aspects of my own mind with noise to signal ratio. I am also smart enough to explore and study them, and I enjoy it intellectually, spiritually and aesthetically to learn about them. I draw powerful truths from these religions without identifying or being indoctrinated. I have met some lovely people who are Christian. There is something in this household which was really beautiful. A love and a peace there. One that comes from well rounded people with a strong sense of belief and community. That is lacking in a lot of peoples lives. So, what is to be done?

Truth doesn't necessarily entail believing a person who says they are Jesus Christ. I don't feel lead or guided by you personally. I see you feel victimized a lot and I feel fine myself. Not that I don't have some things I work through, but that's life. I'd rather be led by someone and inspired by their words, actions and integrity than be told to believe they are this mythical figure. Nope. Jesus, if it was you wouldn't act like you. I have also seen you make posts where you think Leo's followers should idolize him. I am not interested idolizing anyone. I don't need to.

@puporing To be fare, coming anyone on earth and claiming to be the second coming of Christ is going to bring a lot of resistance. I don't know what you expect. Especially on Leo's forum.