Thought Art

Please be here to do the work.

@The Mystical Man Good! Give me something to work with when you respond. How can you equate taking psychedelics to living mindfully? Why would you even ask that?

@The Mystical Man Obviously. No! Don’t be stupid. Why are you wasting your time here if you don’t practice thinking? Living mindfully, why don’t you contemplate that? Maybe, whatever you do you live mindfully. Psychedelics are actual tools for growing yourself. If you don’t get that stop wasting our time with your foolishness.

@The Mystical Man You are a fool to think they are different

@halfknots ? Where do you get this from? I am interested

Can an infinitely creative being dream to bd such a way? - asks human who is such a way

It’s a process. Look up some books on self forgiveness and do the exercises. Also, working on your self esteem and integrity now can help. Also, so can orienting yourself towards the future.

I think it is welcomed. ?

You sure?

True. I am still contemplating this situation. I want to say I am open to changing my mind, learning, and contemplating different perspectives in this. I initially felt annoyed and a bit sarcastic when I came into this thread. I am working on coming from a more neutral and understanding place.

@supremeyingyang Actually, the rant in question here helped me cut through some of my own bullshit

Be the example you want to set I guess. The forum seems more chill these days overall. Many of the trolls and drama causers are gone. Leo has been more insulting to people lately for whatever reason. He has spoken about this in some videos. Honestly, that sort of way of speaking to people is still something I feel ambiguous about.

Not sure I understand

Clearly the forum. I already gave you the context of others threads at the time. Anyway, my last response. Wish you well.

@StormLight Sarcasm

@StormLight It wasn’t he says “you guys” “everyone here”. And, yeah he is being a hypocrite there for sure.

Again, it wasn’t directed at OP. Grow some skin. If you can’t handle a rant about what isn’t Awakening… then that’s fine. That’s not the teacher for you.

@StormLight I like being told I’m an idiot when it is coming from above. If you think any of these finite teachings is Awakening… you are fooling yourself. Why? Because they are all finite dream stuff. As God you imagine it all. Most people calling each other idiots is being done by trolls and fools. If your spiritual teacher calls you an idiot … maybe say thank you? Idk. He doesn’t do it all the time. it’s cool we see it differently.

Honestly this is overblown. You don’t need to awaken. No one is bullying you to do anything. Just stop thinking that Buddhism or meditation is the same as what he is speaking about when he says awakening. Yeah, and God forbid you see how harsh Zen masters could be. Not saying his behaviour was right. Just saying it was directed towards the forum as a whole and I think your over reacting. That is my opinion. I think Leo has an imperfect character. I also don’t know him. But, overall is okay. Instead of getting butthurt, and playing victim like your doing… Read what he said a few times. He is saying something important and profound. Awakening isn’t what these people who are into Buddhism think when Leo says awakening. You think you understand God Realization and Awakening? If you did you would read Leo’s response differently. From that perspective you realize that most humans are chimps. It’s small, mild sauce. Leo is downing the wasabi.

You are right. When he said “Everyone here is a clown” at the opening of his first main paragraph he definitely meant the op. Sorry. Also, I’m trying to not be sarcastic. Noting this.

At least not conscious enough to be grateful for Leo’s work and let it go when he gets upset every now and then when a lot of people are being abusive to him. That’s how I perceived it.

@StormLight He did not @ the op so that’s an assumption you have. During that time there were a number of threads of people really criticizing him, calling him arrogant any, confused etc and being hard on him.

When people abuse you and gaslight you none stop… he has a right to speak up sometimes. We are all here anonymously. He is putting his face out there. Gets a lot of shit from a lot of people but keeps creating. Ideally, this doesn’t happen. But, when it does… I can see it.

Okay, so the first bit of MALT I had was not pure it was like brown. I have new batch… pure white. Totally works on me. Very gentle, very stable. Needs more exploration but seems promising.

First paragraph isn’t true in my experience. Mushrooms, LSD are different even after 5meo. Maybe potentiated but even that is questionable. If you are worried about it… just do some nnDMT then 5Meo… there’s no rush so just enjoy the journey and Namaste. Stay safe.