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@axiom Okay, and this has to do with healthy boundaries in relationships, or judging the fools of the world how? It's like you, are speaking from a deep core, but we are discussing relative things.

@axiom Sure, but do you journal and contemplate or just meditate? What does that have to do with you, yourself putting healthy boundaries in your life? Thoughts arise, they come and go, and they you generally can't "Control them" exactly. However, at the exact same time you can decide. You can decide to meditate, you learn, to go to bed, go to school, to educate yourself, etc. You ARE ALIVE! Live, think, and meditation is good too. I think it's a mistake to say, just because you meditate, and now you see thoughts coming and going from no where that... You can't make quality decisions. When you read my words, think, and then you respond to it. You can also respond of your given data base, axioms, opinions, biases and past experiences. You don't have complete free will. This is why we have: Morons, idiots, mentally ill, people because... We have our own minds, our own limitations. That being said, you can decide. This lack of free will is why books, and teachers are important. But so is direct experience, contemplation, visualization.

@axiom Okay, so stop wiping your ass I guess, we can't make decisions. Kidding. Don't let some philosophy you have about free will mess with your mind too much. You can choose to not let mentally ill people, fools and idiots in your life time. If you are stuck with them, you can make a plan to change the situation.

@axiom You can make decisions. Not sure what aspect you are speaking of what I said.

I think the real challenge, that I struggle with is demonizing people. That is the real problem. However, it's important we develop keen discernment about people. It's important to begin to recognize fools, idiots, the mentally ill, etc and avoid/ handle them with skill and care. This doesn't mean we don't love them. Those of us who have suffered from being a fool, or mentally ill understand these people because we ourselves have been there. But, if we are serious about developing our lives we should learn to see them, and know how to operate in life with the fact that these people exist. Love everybody, but the highest forms of love for a human involve boundaries. Ideally, we bring high quality people into our lives. I personally know I want to make more friendships. But, I am also cutting people out of my life who I think are idiots, fools, mentally ill, drama starters, etc because, it just drains me from focusing on my personal growth and visioning for my life.

Solipsim doesn’t matter. I do not care about it.

@MisterNobody No stupid questions Nothing is hidden, it just changes form

Rapid fire psychedelic use! Be careful.

True, little iffy there Leo.

How many Buddhist’s have committed suicide? Not to mention the one who set himself on fire! People unfortunately kill themselves. I don’t believe you can blame Leo?

@MuadDib can I set that as my alarm some how?

Have you tried not arguing with yourself? All paths lead to the same place jk

Every other person IS YOU!

@Danioover9000 I don’t know Willing to hear different opinions

Yeah, it’s also pretty rare for him to call someone that. But it does happen. It’s not for everyone.

But, see what you might be missing here is that… Maybe you can teach that people are God and tell them they are stupid, selfish motherfuckers that are full of shit. Being told you are full of shit, when it is done from a place of truth seeking is a gift. Like, this isn’t going to sound good to you. When most of the world is full of shit…. Well, then chances are you are full of shit. Being a stupid mother fucker that’s full of shit is like the default setting. I consider myself in the category. Why? Because I have insight into how much growth is ahead of me. For me it’s funny but, maybe you get your feelings hurt by it. This is why it’s fine that we all have different opinions. I don’t need to be told how good I am, how pure I am, how whatever I am like some teacher do to their students. Like Ralph smart telling his audience they are the chosen ones etc. At the same time, the only reason I take that from Leo in a positive way is because I’ve watched a lot of his work and I know what he means when he calls me stupid and full of shit and it’s not an insult to me. It’s just, we live in a dark age… https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-024 Leo’s overall message and 95% of his work is not like that. He isn’t being a dick 24/7.Generally, I think he is very kind, humours and truth oriented. It’s very positive and uplifting and powerful.

@spiritual memes Okay, that’s fair enough. It personally don’t care about the language. Like, it really depends on context. If was like, really dug into thinking Buddhist framing was spirituality, and that only meditation would awaken me and Leo told me I was being a fucking idiot… well, that’s not wrong. I guess it depends because I know Leo from his videos. When a friend I know tells me I am being a fucking idiot I don’t cry and moan and think they are toxic and evil. They are just being human. But, it’s also context sensitive and maybe I would be offended and upset. Im spending time much time talking about this. Heading to sleep. Take care. Ever since I started following Leo he has had a way of being authentic. That means he contains a humanness that includes sometimes being assertive and biligerant. I’ve listened to like 200 hours or something of Osho’s talks. He also has his moments. When a teacher deals with so many people he sometimes gets upset. I think we have fantasy that a teacher is always nice. I don’t need him to be nice, or any other teacher all the time.

@spiritual memes Okay, but what line did he cross? calling people stupid I’m a recent post? What exactly?

@spiritual memes Not defending him. I just don't see it like you do. You are imagining things I think don't exist.

No, that is not a definition of a cult. But, that IS a potential sign of cult like behaviour. However, I am not denying any such thing. Leo had some outbursts like weeks ago... They were a little strange. But at the same time. he leaves himself open to CONSTANT criticism. He bites back, and then you guys bitch and moan about it. However, is that ideal? Did he handle it in the best way? No. That is probably obvious, but that the same time. Sometimes you gotta be authentic and just say what you think. I am not enabling anyones behaviour. I am not a child, Leo is not a child. We are not a bunch of morons and I don't appreciate you here claiming I am some dumb fucking cult follower. I literally study every religion, and many different Gurus because they all have their own flavours and specialties. I am gonna keep saying that, but some of you guys are so dense and opinionated it's like speaking to fence.

@spiritual memes Those are all words that YOU use. That is YOUR interpretation. Yeah, he had a couple rants recently. So what? I recently had a guy on the form here, going on and on and on about how Leo is toxic for his rant bla bla bla. And then this guy threatens to beat me up in private messages because I was dismissive of him little bit. Anyway, I think I am learning from these conversations that these views on Leo exist and people, and I just don't care. I enjoy his teachings, I like the work, I like the book lists, the principles, the forum. I also like that, Leo isn't exactly perfect and I don't agree with him on everything. No teacher is perfect. Ultimately, it's up to me to be my greatest teacher and figure this stuff out for myself. To think my own thoughts, create my own meaning, my own purpose, live my own life. It's not about any personality other than my own.

@spiritual memes Go and read Leo's recent posts. He is just talking about whatever. Someone standing their ground in their opinion doesn't make them not have compassion. I don't really know if you watch Leo's videos but... his video today for example. A person without compassion and emotional intelligence would not have made that video. That being said, Leo is not really a people person. But, whatever. Everyone can be mean and an asshole to Leo, but God forbid he bite back from time to time.

@spiritual memes It may not change what you are saying, but if you can't describe a cult, then you aren't saying much. Why not just insult everyone who follows someone, as well as that person just because I don't agree with him sometimes on a forum.

Or, you really just have your own perspective and other people have different opinions. I bet you couldn't even right a paragraph on what a cult is.