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@Leo Gura Leo, I often see you talk negatively about weed, but have you actually seriously tried it? I am going into cannabis for my life purpose, and after 5 years of using it since I was 15, I have discovered amazing psychedelic-level benefits that can be attained if one is educated and knows what he is doing with strains etc. This domain takes a lot of trial/error and time to master, it also affects everyone differently. I would encourage you to seriously experiment with a variety of it before you go about talking negatively about it, it is not “addictive” in the hard drug classical sense, I would compare its addiction potential to coffee.

@Leo Gura I dont understand this either, It seems to me that the main reason why you became so successful is because you watched porn, using those early years to set a strong foundation instead of squandering it chasing girls???

After a really traumatic childhood dental experience, and dealing with shitty rough dentists, I have avoided the dentist for years and developed a lot of cavities, a broken tooth etc, and need a lot of dental work including root canals, crowns, and fillings. The last time I went was in 2017 and I tapped out of the chair, after being injected with anesthetics, I could still feel the dentists rough hands and pain in my mouth, and was generally anxious and uneasy. My dentist immediately brought up sedation for my dental anxiety and the amount of work that I need to get done, but I am also anxious about being fully unconscious during the procedure. I decided to get prescribed Ativan, and to try to get fillings (least invasive procedure) with anesthesia and see how it feels again, but I am still having a lot of anxiety prior to scheduling the appointment? What are y'all thoughts/opinions on dental anxiety and sedation vs anesthesia?

Another thing which i would like improved here is whenever you think someone is wrong then explain to them why they are wrong. You are wrong/biased etc is not enough, an explanation of why they are so would be more useful. Do you really expect a super stubborn person to understand it all by himself without any guidance? I noticed it in the girls want traditional man thread that was locked, not a good job was done to explain the OP why he was biased and wrong. This is a very important point. Many people on this forum are lazy and simply post 1-liners basically just saying "you are wrong", "you are deluded" or whatever without delivering any explanations as to why they think that. Basically to many people post without delivering any value (value=helping somebody to understand something by explaining it concisely and clearly) The women saying that reading this information is hurtful, cant give any logical reason why it's invalid, other than "its biased", (All dating is literally inherently biased, that doesn't invalidate anything said?) and are just getting emotionally triggered. Further, I can't understand how something can emotionally trigger you if you truly are not personally invested/attached to the topic at hand (which needs to be separated from the general discussion). We are on a self development forum, and clearly not purposely trying to be "toxic" or offend anyone. Original Exchange: "You are a dodo bird by subscribing to this dumb view of women." How am I dumb for holding this view ? "It simply isn't true. You've fallen into self-deception by cherrypicking, confirmation bias, and ideology. Go watch my series on Self-Deception Parts 1, 2, 3." Can you please elaborate how my view is absurd? I didn’t take anything out of context, each of these replies is easily searchable and u can find the original thread it would just be too much to paste everything. Like I said, cherrypicking and confirmation bias. You took stuff I said totally out of context to justify your absurd attitude towards women. I warned you exactly against this." "Locking this because OP is not open to changing his position on this matter" There is no difference between attracting a chain-smoking club slut vs a virgin enlightened unicorn soul princess. The attraction triggers are all hardwired deep in her brain stem and are the same. That enlightened unicorn soul princess likes to get bent over and fucked just like any other girl. Watch out for the myth of spiritual people somehow being special snowflakes who are above the animal drives. No they aren't. They are horny animals just like everyone else. The girl who pretends that she is special and "not that type of girl" is exactly the type of girl who will sleep with an asshole psychopath at the drop of a dime. Every girl thinks she is "not that type of girl". They like: confidence, assertiveness, detachment from outcome, driven-ness, strength, leadership, charisma. Which tends to be what assholes have a lot of. What if I said this: High quality enlightened guys don't like perfectly shaped big tits. They are just too special for that. They are above that. Only scumbag guys like that. Would you believe it? Of course no girl will admit to going to a club to fuck. She must act like it's just fun with friends so she isn't slut-shamed by folks like you. Hot girls have lots of sex on a whim. It's not all about finding some ideal partner. Sometimes people are just horny and looking for an adventure. Exactly. Because you have too little experience with the sexual escapades of hot girls. Girls conceal and lie about how much sex they have and how easily and quickly they have it. She doesn't want you to know she sucked some random dude's cock in the parking lot after talking to him for 30 minutes. Yet this happens all the time. Your innocent girl isn't as innocent as you imagine. Your blood would boil if you knew how much sex these girls are having without you and the kind of scumbags they do it with. I am mean total scumbags. I've seen too much Leo's idea? Lol Yeah, I invented that. All me. No woman has ever fallen for an asshole. You can talk and theorize all you want, but the fact remains that a highly feminine girl would rather get fucked by a strong asshole than by a weak guy. There are some harsh truths about how women have sex. When you learn the truth of it, it busts many romanticized myths and cultural fantasies. I got nothing against femininity or women. I just don't prepetuate the myths of how they have sex. Sex is deliberately lied about in our culture because it is still taboo. You women have to maintain an air of innocence and purity. I get it. But I am not going to play those games. Of course. The reality is, a woman wants strong emotions. And a player gives that to her like no other man can. Which is why women will cheat on their lame boyfriends and husbands with players. A women with get attracted to whatever guy gives her the strongest emotions. Then don't sleep with players. Sleep with some shy nerd who has zero game. There are millions of them around so you will have no problem finding one. But you see, you don't want to sleep with such a man. You are not attracted to that. You are attracted precisely to strong men who are players who would sleep with lots of women. But you selfishly want to lock him down for yourself exclusively. If a woman has enough value, she will be able to leverage it to get the man to be loyal to her. But if she has insufficient value, she won't. And this is what really pisses you off. Because you want to be able to lock down a man with higher value than you, and you see how easily that fails. But you still want it because you are greedy. You want value for free. This is otherwise known as stealing value. Your ego-mind wants to steal sexual value. Well, that doesn't work so well. So stop doing it. But also, don't pretend like women don't go through a slutty phase. Women sleep around as much if not more than men, but you love to deny it. Haha In practice what most women do is this: They spend their teens and 20s sleeping around with the hottest, most high-value guys they can find. But since these guys are high value, they tend to be players who leverage their value and won't commit, or are abusive narcissistic assholes. So eventually by the time you hit your 30s you learn your lesson and lower your standards to guys who are less players, but also less attractive and you find some comfortable compromise position with such a guy and you two settle down. Then you get divorced. This is a tale as old as mankind itself. Nothing at all surprising about it. This is the game. The game is happening whether you know it or not, whether you want it or not. Are you seriously going to deny that hot women in their 20's sleep around? Come on. I just wouldn't recommend sleeping with a crack whore. How you use sex is a great honest signal of your level of consciousness and development. The less conscious you are, the more dysfunctional and degenerate your sex will be, and vice versa. I bet you've opened it to some unworthy It's okay. I won't judge. What you really want is a player who will fall head over heels in love with only you. Would you want to marry and have kids with the town slut? Never. You want a nice girl who will be loyal to you. You may like women being sluts when you're looking for one night stands, but as soon as you start looking for a serious partner you will sing a very different tune. And all women know this subconsciously. They know that a serious guy won't commit to a slut, he will just pump and dump her.

@Leo Gura Have you ever even tried to indulge yourself materially ever? All the classic stage orange luxury lifestyle stuff (Shopping, restaurants, cars, mingling with prestigious people), or where you just born above these desires? Some spiritual types like such as Osho taught to embrace materialism, lived an extravagant lifestyle, and I have personally found value in doing that to an extent that you can afford, as modern technology has made luxuries attainable to everyday ambitious people. It would be interesting to see Leo balling out and being a little extravagant to burn some karma

A lot of misconception, misunderstanding, and back and forth debate surrounding female attraction and sexuality between men and women boils down to one concept: Girls want Traditional Men, But Don't want to be Traditional Themselves. This is where you see a lot of male frustration arise. Women expect and value traits that associated with traditionally strong men, such as confidence, dominance, assertiveness, status, leadership, and often favor men who are ruthless in attaining these qualities, while telling the public politically correct answers that they like "nice, kind, sweet, honest, and empathetic men. Further, they absolve themselves of being "traditional women", by having lots of casual sex with assholes, posting their ass and tits on social media, wearing sexually provocative clothes in public, etc. Traits such as nurturance, sensitivity, sweetness,[15] supportiveness,[11][8] gentleness,[8][9] warmth,[11][9] passivity, cooperativeness, expressiveness,[25] modesty, humility, empathy,[8] affection, tenderness,[11] and being emotional, kind, helpful, devoted, and understanding[9] have been cited as stereotypically feminine. The defining characteristics of femininity vary between and even within societies. Standards of manliness or masculinity vary across different cultures and historical periods.[8] Traits traditionally viewed as masculine in Western societyinclude strength, courage, independence, leadership, and assertiveness

@Leo Gura Can you please elaborate how my view is absurd? I didn’t take anything out of context, each of these replies is easily searchable and u can find the original thread it would just be too much to paste everything.

@Danioover9000 @Preety_India just to be clear those are all Leos quotes lol

@Leo Gura There is no difference between attracting a chain-smoking club slut vs a virgin enlightened unicorn soul princess. The attraction triggers are all hardwired deep in her brain stem and are the same. That enlightened unicorn soul princess likes to get bent over and fucked just like any other girl. Watch out for the myth of spiritual people somehow being special snowflakes who are above the animal drives. No they aren't. They are horny animals just like everyone else. The girl who pretends that she is special and "not that type of girl" is exactly the type of girl who will sleep with an asshole psychopath at the drop of a dime. Every girl thinks she is "not that type of girl". They like: confidence, assertiveness, detachment from outcome, driven-ness, strength, leadership, charisma. Which tends to be what assholes have a lot of. What if I said this: High quality enlightened guys don't like perfectly shaped big tits. They are just too special for that. They are above that. Only scumbag guys like that. Would you believe it? Of course no girl will admit to going to a club to fuck. She must act like it's just fun with friends so she isn't slut-shamed by folks like you. Hot girls have lots of sex on a whim. It's not all about finding some ideal partner. Sometimes people are just horny and looking for an adventure. Exactly. Because you have too little experience with the sexual escapades of hot girls. Girls conceal and lie about how much sex they have and how easily and quickly they have it. She doesn't want you to know she sucked some random dude's cock in the parking lot after talking to him for 30 minutes. Yet this happens all the time. Your innocent girl isn't as innocent as you imagine. Your blood would boil if you knew how much sex these girls are having without you and the kind of scumbags they do it with. I am mean total scumbags. I've seen too much Leo's idea? Lol Yeah, I invented that. All me. No woman has ever fallen for an asshole. You can talk and theorize all you want, but the fact remains that a highly feminine girl would rather get fucked by a strong asshole than by a weak guy. There are some harsh truths about how women have sex. When you learn the truth of it, it busts many romanticized myths and cultural fantasies. I got nothing against femininity or women. I just don't prepetuate the myths of how they have sex. Sex is deliberately lied about in our culture because it is still taboo. You women have to maintain an air of innocence and purity. I get it. But I am not going to play those games. Of course. The reality is, a woman wants strong emotions. And a player gives that to her like no other man can. Which is why women will cheat on their lame boyfriends and husbands with players. A women with get attracted to whatever guy gives her the strongest emotions. Then don't sleep with players. Sleep with some shy nerd who has zero game. There are millions of them around so you will have no problem finding one. But you see, you don't want to sleep with such a man. You are not attracted to that. You are attracted precisely to strong men who are players who would sleep with lots of women. But you selfishly want to lock him down for yourself exclusively. If a woman has enough value, she will be able to leverage it to get the man to be loyal to her. But if she has insufficient value, she won't. And this is what really pisses you off. Because you want to be able to lock down a man with higher value than you, and you see how easily that fails. But you still want it because you are greedy. You want value for free. This is otherwise known as stealing value. Your ego-mind wants to steal sexual value. Well, that doesn't work so well. So stop doing it. But also, don't pretend like women don't go through a slutty phase. Women sleep around as much if not more than men, but you love to deny it. Haha In practice what most women do is this: They spend their teens and 20s sleeping around with the hottest, most high-value guys they can find. But since these guys are high value, they tend to be players who leverage their value and won't commit, or are abusive narcissistic assholes. So eventually by the time you hit your 30s you learn your lesson and lower your standards to guys who are less players, but also less attractive and you find some comfortable compromise position with such a guy and you two settle down. Then you get divorced. This is a tale as old as mankind itself. Nothing at all surprising about it. This is the game. The game is happening whether you know it or not, whether you want it or not. Are you seriously going to deny that hot women in their 20's sleep around? Come on. I just wouldn't recommend sleeping with a crack whore. How you use sex is a great honest signal of your level of consciousness and development. The less conscious you are, the more dysfunctional and degenerate your sex will be, and vice versa. I bet you've opened it to some unworthy It's okay. I won't judge. What you really want is a player who will fall head over heels in love with only you. Would you want to marry and have kids with the town slut? Never. You want a nice girl who will be loyal to you. You may like women being sluts when you're looking for one night stands, but as soon as you start looking for a serious partner you will sing a very different tune. And all women know this subconsciously. They know that a serious guy won't commit to a slut, he will just pump and dump her.

@Leo Gura How am I dumb for holding this view ?

@Leo Gura Right, but I’m not sure how my perspective is “distorted” because it’s based on my personal biases. You talk about this in the everyone has good intentions videos, that with ones personal biases, a “distorted” world view can feel like reality. Nothing I said excuses one from development. I have been working on my myself very hard since I was 16, if y’all think this post is bad, you have no idea how dysfunctional I was before actualized. How is this “red pill ideology”, I never advocated for doing nothing with this information and being a victim, I used this information to motivate myself to improve, but this still doesn’t excuse the fact that I don’t wanna feel like a dodo bird ?stooge committing to some slut who the whole town has ejaculated upon.

@Leo Gura when/why did u move out?

@Leo Gura did u live in the dorms or at home and commute?

@Gesundheit2 this.

@Emerald I get that you may be extra sensitive around this topic because of your personal experiences(which you are still in the middle of), but I would advise you to take a second closer look at what Leo is saying. I have noticed the tendency in you to read unpleasant information uncarefully and write feelings-based replies that sound polite and politically correct, and soften the harshness of Leo’s words. I carefully read through your replies hand have concluded that this is yet another Politely crafted word salad ?,and you are missing Leo’s main point. In reality, You can talk and theorize all you want, but the fact remains that a highly feminine girl would rather get fucked by a strong asshole than by a weak guy. This is the first qualifier, before any subjective qualities are even thought about. It is unfair to paint men as horny dogs who are mainly attracted to big tits, but women as virgin soul princess fairies who look at subjective qualities instead of status and other shallow traits, women have to invent these stories to maintain their false pedestal of purity. This rhetoric is unproductive for struggling men.

@TK2021 I find this to be the case with young ladies, 30 and under. Things start to change once their body count increases and looks start to decline, and they realize that they need to start taking someone seriously if they don’t wanna be left alone on the streets with plummeting desirability. This is where lower value males swoop in and make long term commitments, while men with options and self respect continue to run through 18-30yos. Leo once said that if women were sexually attracted to kindness, all war would immediately end and we would have peace ☮️ on earth ?, but alas, endless war .

Can u provide a few examples ? This.

@Preety_India I see where you are coming from, but this is not exactly the same thing. Hot girls are just born hot, they dont even have to work out if they dont want to. High value men are made, even if they are built upon privilege, they have to go through various trial and error and experiences to become "high value" to women. Also, an "average" man, average height, looks, money, status, can still be highly attractive to a woman who is down to settle, as he can still have a strong masculine personality. If a man settles with an "average" woman, he's gonna be stuck with declining bad looks.

@Bando None of this has anything to do with blackpill/redpill, these are the truths if you want to bang the hottest girls. @Tangerinedream Why settle for low/average women, when you have your whole life ahead of you to develop yourself into a high value man and bang hot girls, but hey to each their own. @myles If you "relax and go with the flow", your going to end up with a 30 year old ran through beat up roast beef.

As a guy with high standards for women,I agree with this post. At this young age, there's no reason to "shoot for low/average" when you have your whole life ahead of you. These are brutal uncomfortable truths that must be accepted and integrated if you want to bang hot girls.

Something I have been noticing a lot recently, is hypocrisy surrounding female and male long term dating standards. Notions of feminism, women rights, and equality encourage women to set healthy standards based on their values of attraction, a man should be independent, provide for himself, a dominant leader, confident,charming,tall,etc. However, when men try to set standards based on their values of attraction such as, a girl should not be fat and take care of her appearance, should not slurp up and open her jay for every homeboy on the block, women frantically start running in screaming SEXIST MISOGNIST SLUT SHAME INSECURE INCEL sToP JudGinG whAT WE dO wItH oUR bODy. Seriously, what is so wrong and shallow about wanting your long term girlfriend to not be a hoe?? Women want to deceptively portray purity and innocence using these feminist values to keep their options with high value men open, this is the equivalent of a man lying about his social/financial status and being outraged at a beautiful woman being disappointed when she finds out the truth. There should and are social consequences for girls using years 18-30 of inherited sexual value (cock carousel) that is barely worked for handing it out to everyone on the street and after "maturing" and valuing long term commitment and relationships. It should be a mans right to honestly know about a woman's sexual history before making a decision about long term commitment, and there is nothing misogynistic about rejecting and not taking seriously girls that sleep around, the same way girls reject weak guys who are not strong leaders.

@Peter Miklis @somegirl If you don't wanna see threads about dating and sexuality, then dont go on this part of the forum. The point is to point out female hypocrisy, have y'all actually bothered watching the full video?? It is not a gross over generalization, as men have a much harder time deceiving about their sexual value.

@Tangerinedream U kinda just pulled that out of ur ass lol, vulgarity and self judgement and self hatred are mutually exclusive, I dont hate anyone for doing anything, girls are free to do what they want, I am speaking in the context of women thinking they deserve high value men by acting like a virgin princess after being ran thru.

@Leo Gura Yo Leo u always talk about picking up girls at a night club sober as you dont drink, but docent that imply that the girls you are picking up have been drinking/ are intoxicated? Leo Gura: Some yes, some no. Depends. Doesn't really matter. I prefer girls who don't drink or drink little. I've lost plenty of girls simply because they drank so much they were too sick to have sex with. Me:Dosent it matter if they are making decisions disinhibited while you are sober? If you've had some experience with alcohol you know it can definitely, well let's say, skew ones perceptions for the night and make girls way looser. Its legally rape. Also why would you sleep with drunk women if you don't promote pump/dump and have explicitly outlined that girls who drink are a dealbreaker when u are looking for a girlfriend, a lot of girls who go out to clubs are regular drinkers/smokers/party girls. I would just personally feel uncomfortable gaming drunk girls sober, Id wanna at least get on their playing field. I see many members on this forum touting ideas like "EMbrAce sExAal eNerGy with lOve and conSciousnNss!", and after reading their pickup tactics, it involves things like picking off vulnerable drunk girls, manipulating girls perception of you to appear appear more attractive and confident,(And not being interested or screening for a long term relationship with the women), when in reality you would be behaving differently if you were not pursing sex. Leo actually describes a lot of this behavior himself in his rant against the pickup community: I just feel like this forum has lost track of these higher integrity ideas, and is behaving like chimps, which is all fine and gravy, I only see a problem with it when we are students of "high integrity" putting in no effort to screen girls for long term compatibility before sleeping with them, and boasting about "lay counts" and how good your "game" is and how much of a "high value man" you are, which is only "high value" from the perspective of a woman's survival, so really the term "high value man" is synonymous with douchebag, as your spending so much time and energy to please women to get vagina, you could spend that time pursuing consciousness work and life purpose (which is the greater good for society and our communities and takes up a lot of time and often conflicts with your sexual interests). I have also noticed a lot of avoidance when I try to discuss these topics or bring them to light, people simply stop replying to the thread, as is the case with the example above^