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@Leo Gura when/why did u move out?

@Leo Gura did u live in the dorms or at home and commute?

@Gesundheit2 this.

@Emerald I get that you may be extra sensitive around this topic because of your personal experiences(which you are still in the middle of), but I would advise you to take a second closer look at what Leo is saying. I have noticed the tendency in you to read unpleasant information uncarefully and write feelings-based replies that sound polite and politically correct, and soften the harshness of Leo’s words. I carefully read through your replies hand have concluded that this is yet another Politely crafted word salad ?,and you are missing Leo’s main point. In reality, You can talk and theorize all you want, but the fact remains that a highly feminine girl would rather get fucked by a strong asshole than by a weak guy. This is the first qualifier, before any subjective qualities are even thought about. It is unfair to paint men as horny dogs who are mainly attracted to big tits, but women as virgin soul princess fairies who look at subjective qualities instead of status and other shallow traits, women have to invent these stories to maintain their false pedestal of purity. This rhetoric is unproductive for struggling men.

@TK2021 I find this to be the case with young ladies, 30 and under. Things start to change once their body count increases and looks start to decline, and they realize that they need to start taking someone seriously if they don’t wanna be left alone on the streets with plummeting desirability. This is where lower value males swoop in and make long term commitments, while men with options and self respect continue to run through 18-30yos. Leo once said that if women were sexually attracted to kindness, all war would immediately end and we would have peace ☮️ on earth ?, but alas, endless war .

Can u provide a few examples ? This.

@Preety_India I see where you are coming from, but this is not exactly the same thing. Hot girls are just born hot, they dont even have to work out if they dont want to. High value men are made, even if they are built upon privilege, they have to go through various trial and error and experiences to become "high value" to women. Also, an "average" man, average height, looks, money, status, can still be highly attractive to a woman who is down to settle, as he can still have a strong masculine personality. If a man settles with an "average" woman, he's gonna be stuck with declining bad looks.

@Bando None of this has anything to do with blackpill/redpill, these are the truths if you want to bang the hottest girls. @Tangerinedream Why settle for low/average women, when you have your whole life ahead of you to develop yourself into a high value man and bang hot girls, but hey to each their own. @myles If you "relax and go with the flow", your going to end up with a 30 year old ran through beat up roast beef.

As a guy with high standards for women,I agree with this post. At this young age, there's no reason to "shoot for low/average" when you have your whole life ahead of you. These are brutal uncomfortable truths that must be accepted and integrated if you want to bang hot girls.

Something I have been noticing a lot recently, is hypocrisy surrounding female and male long term dating standards. Notions of feminism, women rights, and equality encourage women to set healthy standards based on their values of attraction, a man should be independent, provide for himself, a dominant leader, confident,charming,tall,etc. However, when men try to set standards based on their values of attraction such as, a girl should not be fat and take care of her appearance, should not slurp up and open her jay for every homeboy on the block, women frantically start running in screaming SEXIST MISOGNIST SLUT SHAME INSECURE INCEL sToP JudGinG whAT WE dO wItH oUR bODy. Seriously, what is so wrong and shallow about wanting your long term girlfriend to not be a hoe?? Women want to deceptively portray purity and innocence using these feminist values to keep their options with high value men open, this is the equivalent of a man lying about his social/financial status and being outraged at a beautiful woman being disappointed when she finds out the truth. There should and are social consequences for girls using years 18-30 of inherited sexual value (cock carousel) that is barely worked for handing it out to everyone on the street and after "maturing" and valuing long term commitment and relationships. It should be a mans right to honestly know about a woman's sexual history before making a decision about long term commitment, and there is nothing misogynistic about rejecting and not taking seriously girls that sleep around, the same way girls reject weak guys who are not strong leaders.

@Peter Miklis @somegirl If you don't wanna see threads about dating and sexuality, then dont go on this part of the forum. The point is to point out female hypocrisy, have y'all actually bothered watching the full video?? It is not a gross over generalization, as men have a much harder time deceiving about their sexual value.

@Tangerinedream U kinda just pulled that out of ur ass lol, vulgarity and self judgement and self hatred are mutually exclusive, I dont hate anyone for doing anything, girls are free to do what they want, I am speaking in the context of women thinking they deserve high value men by acting like a virgin princess after being ran thru.

@Leo Gura Yo Leo u always talk about picking up girls at a night club sober as you dont drink, but docent that imply that the girls you are picking up have been drinking/ are intoxicated? Leo Gura: Some yes, some no. Depends. Doesn't really matter. I prefer girls who don't drink or drink little. I've lost plenty of girls simply because they drank so much they were too sick to have sex with. Me:Dosent it matter if they are making decisions disinhibited while you are sober? If you've had some experience with alcohol you know it can definitely, well let's say, skew ones perceptions for the night and make girls way looser. Its legally rape. Also why would you sleep with drunk women if you don't promote pump/dump and have explicitly outlined that girls who drink are a dealbreaker when u are looking for a girlfriend, a lot of girls who go out to clubs are regular drinkers/smokers/party girls. I would just personally feel uncomfortable gaming drunk girls sober, Id wanna at least get on their playing field. I see many members on this forum touting ideas like "EMbrAce sExAal eNerGy with lOve and conSciousnNss!", and after reading their pickup tactics, it involves things like picking off vulnerable drunk girls, manipulating girls perception of you to appear appear more attractive and confident,(And not being interested or screening for a long term relationship with the women), when in reality you would be behaving differently if you were not pursing sex. Leo actually describes a lot of this behavior himself in his rant against the pickup community: I just feel like this forum has lost track of these higher integrity ideas, and is behaving like chimps, which is all fine and gravy, I only see a problem with it when we are students of "high integrity" putting in no effort to screen girls for long term compatibility before sleeping with them, and boasting about "lay counts" and how good your "game" is and how much of a "high value man" you are, which is only "high value" from the perspective of a woman's survival, so really the term "high value man" is synonymous with douchebag, as your spending so much time and energy to please women to get vagina, you could spend that time pursuing consciousness work and life purpose (which is the greater good for society and our communities and takes up a lot of time and often conflicts with your sexual interests). I have also noticed a lot of avoidance when I try to discuss these topics or bring them to light, people simply stop replying to the thread, as is the case with the example above^

@Karmadhi You guys are loosing track of the problem with these ridicioulous slut shaming stuff. OF COURSE, there is nothing wrong if girls sleep around as long as they are not cheating. I thought this group was more evolved than to slut shame. The issue the thread opener meant was that if a guy is vocal about his attraction triggers on females, females will get angry and make him feel bad. If guy says i want a healthy weight pretty girl, he is considered a shallow pig. Meanwhile, when girls say they want a confident charming successful man, that is considered normal and cool. Both attraction triggers are equally selfish and survival based, however males are made to feel bad about theirs while women are not. This is the issue. This

@cocaCan you please cite where someone advocated fucking as many girls as possible and not caring about them, this forum is literally just personal projections.

@Jacob MorresPlease read the post carefully, you are who this thread was created for.

@krasThe same way weak needy guys who are not strong leaders, and are not confident don't get taken seriously by women, and there is no question about it.

@Arcangelo Because people will laugh behind my back. Because is like buying a used car with a lot of mileage. Because I have been conditioned to only have sex with them not to be in a relationship with them. Because it gives you a bad reputation. I am so glad I am redpilled man and that I don't have to deal with none of this bullshit. This is real honesty, and it is because the same way women are wired by evolution to be attracted to certain things, men are too, evolutional instincts to want to know that the kid your having is yours, the same way women have evolutional instincts to have a strong leader to preserve themselves and children, its all survival.

@flowboy Nobody here is unwilling to introspect bro, your starting to say nonsense at this point, stay on topic, others here are giving you valid reasons on top of mine

@flowboy You can go ahead and do your own research on oxytocin , the second supporting argument I made is a sufficient reason.

@Eph75 Who is demanding anyone to adopt my values dude you are literally speaking nonsense. @aurum @flowboyBecause girls release bonding chemicals when they have sex which starts fucking up her head the more dick she racks up, also high value women only have sex with highly value men, as there is little high value men in comparison to the general population, by definition girls who have high body counts sleep with low value men.

@flowboy Dude you are literally the reason I made this post. LOL 1. When did I ever say that women dont like sex or that its not their right to enjoy it in any way they please, these are your personal projections. 2. Its not hypocritical because men and woman judge sex differently, and because woman inherit their sexual value, while men have to earn it. 3. Where is the fear?? When did I say I want to control female sexuality? dude I literally said I dont want my LONG TERM GIRLFRIEND TO BE A HOE LOL

@flowboy Promiscuous woman What is toxic or unhealthy about anything I posted?

@flowboy Seriously, what is so wrong and shallow about wanting your long term girlfriend to not be a hoe??

@Etherial Cat 26 is when looks start to declining with 30 being the danger zone. Nobody here is holding grudges against females for their choice of partners, that is simply your projection. If you carefully read any of our posts, you will understand that we have no problem with girls being hoes, only when they act like innocent virgin soul princesses after being ran thru.