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And, also regarding the points about stage green women. Many progressives are awesome people to be around. You can actually let you be you, and just relax in their company, rather than having to put up an act. Having a stage green gf is like the first stage of girl who can actually love you for you, and they care about people in general people being treated humanely.

I dunno man. The most attractive women to me is a girl who actually had maybe a rough start in life, and then transcends it through doing personal development on herself. And that is often gonna be a women who is single at 25+ because as she changes she will probably change her relationships. And, also I wouldn't listen to Tate in regards to relationships. I think he might be a good resource for some masculine stuff, i.e. getting casual relationships by raising your status, if that is really what you want. But its unreasonable to my mind to think he has ever had a non-toxic relationship in his life.

@John Paul Hey mate, Haven't watched the video but did check out the channel. I'd recommend generally to always try to get an understanding of what the political alignment of your news sources are. Imo, every news source is inherently biased.

@Majed I'd say you want to try and become conscious of how you unconsciously believe that having these paradigm locks aids your survival. I'd recommend some sort of journaling. Something i struggle with myself though too.

The interplay of cause and effect systems.

@Leo Gura I used to ability to be ruthlessness because i wanted to account for setting boundaries, where others will think you are a complete demon. I.e. in government, political leaders sometimes have to make choices which they know will cause deep suffering or even death to many because they have made a cost-benefit analysis that to do otherwise would cause more suffering. Such as a military general warfare who sends a diversionary offensive that he knows will be brutally crushed by the opposite army, but it will allow their sides army as a whole to have the tactical advantage and make major gains. I.e. you are a political leader during covid and you bring in measures to stop people from seeing their loved ones as they die alone in hospital beds. If one does not have this ability then i think one is liable to actually cause much more suffering.

Hey dude! What comes to mind is: - Competent - Strategic - Passion - Integrity - Patience - Emotional control - Courageous - Empathetic - Ability to be ruthless

Ronald Dworkin's book 'Law's empire'

@Paul Boldyrev I'd say its perfectly okay. Let the others think what they want.

@woohoo123 I'd say at least part of it would involve doing inner work. That way you can come to a place where you love yourself for who you are, and your sense of self-worth isn't as tied up in your life purpose.

@Antor8188 I've dealt with creepy people like that before. Those guys are probably very lost, and bitter in their lives, with little sense of direction. Maybe use it as an opportunity to be grateful that you are not in the creepy headspace that those sorts of people are in: Also, this is what those guys end up becoming like: Edit: I do find it sad though. It takes a fair few societal failings for someone to end up like that.

@zurew Ye i think so too. Honestly, how people react to good quality pick up theory is quite an interesting marker of someone's defence mechanisms and relationship to truth imo. Based on personal experience so much of it is clearly true. Yet so many educated people call it complete nonsense. So it shows me someone is ideological.

@Antor8188 Great! And ye dude the broke life hits hard haha. Tho to be fair how did you act and feel when you said you were broke?

@Swarnim Yeee boiii

@P Michael Lmao its funny looking at all the defence mechanisms in the chat.

Guessing its probably because of instagram and dating apps.] My thoughts would be that guys in their 30s are most attractive to women. So, women prefer to go for them. But before they'd have to settle for who was accessible to them, i.e. the young guns. If so, lucky bastards if they were in their 20s before social media, and then in there 30s when social media came out. Or i guess, maybe there are just hella lesbians living it up these days lol

@spiritual memes Hey me again. Also, if you meant that other people don't really understand IFS or are reluctant to it, then i'd offer the following opinion. Each part has its role that its acting out. And the psyche works like a system in terms of the dynamics between all the different parts, and when the system experiences something new it is susceptible to change. For example, if you see an old friend you'd rather avoid in the supermarket, then the system will change and different parts will take control of the system, and make sure their roles are fulfilled, i.e. making sure their exiled part doesn't feel panicked or something. To my mind, the same exact thing happens when you tell someone about IFS. You telling them about it represents a new input to their psychic system, and different parts will likely arise to fulfil their roles. So, its not just about telling people about IFS, its about their system being open to hearing about IFS in the particular context you are in and with all the ways that you actually behave when you tell them about iFS. My mistake if that wasn't what you were saying. But if it wasn't at least i got a chance to geek out about IFS lol.

@Rishabh R Hey mate, Sorry to hear that happened to you, and I hear that you are feeling suicidal. I have had a lot of mixed emotions with regards to how various girls have treated me in the past, and have beliefs and feelings of inadequacy around the idea that the girls i want don't want me. If you are looking for advice, perhaps try journaling about the emotions you are feeling. I understand it might not seem like it but there's a light ahead mate. If you are not looking for advice, feel free to disregard my comment. I wish you well in the meantime mate.

@spiritual memes Thank you my man I find it easy to take for granted as well. Although in a sense i don't even like teh idea of taking for granted because then im taking for granted the fact that my survival depends on my taking it for granted. BUt then i get into a chain of trying to compassionate by not judging, which in turn judges my judges and so on earth and so forth hahaha. Perhaps it is a curse. I was at a psychosynthesis workshop some years ago now. It was run by a seemingly very conscious psychosynthesis therapist who seemingly old and wise. I remember him remarking with a smile and a slight sly that sometimes he wishes wasn't conscious, and some other people seemed to agree with him. And there agreement seemed to me more a one of relating to another than conforming to another. And ye i get you re the preaching thing, i do the same. not as much anymore. well maybe i do cos i preach to my therapist about things should be all the time hahaha. Perhaps you may see fruitfulness in moving to a more conscious location one day. I had the blessing once of having a much more conscious friend than me who was also quite grounded in his beliefs, such that he didn't really hide his beliefs too much. To have a friend like that in person was quite eye opening and in aspects a wonderful experience of how it can be to relate in a different, more conscious way. Or even just visiting a conscious place. like seeking out some stage green type events, like a local psychedelic society,

@spiritual memes Yo dude, I feel rather the same way i'd say. I imagine that the world will become increasingly conscious with time. There will be some set of factors that leads one towards spirituality and self actualisation i imagine. Although it may seem random, it is, to my mind, inevitable and a part of human evolution. In the same way one may look at the rise of democracy as this thing one must be thankful for and is incredibly haphazard in whether it works or not. The same may be said of spirituality imo. I say one may look at it and see it that way because it is not really that way. If you learn about political science you will see that there a variety of interconnected factors that cause a democracy to arise, cause it to fail and cause it to be stable. It is simply our ignorance of the cause and effect relationships which causes us worry and confusion. So, with spirituality the arising of it will in the same way be simply the result of cause and effect relationships that we are too in ignorance of. For example, i imagine that it will be to do with factors such as the growth of the middle class, and a booming economy that leads to less economic anxiety and greater ability to turn one's attention higher up the hierarchy of needs. It is perhaps unfortunate that we live in the epoch that we do. the time that we do. for evolution has not arrived at a point where teh spiritual is the mundane, in the sense that it may be talked out as an everyday activity by the masses. Things like IFS, which perhaps seem to so obviously the answer to many of life's important questions is still such a recent discovery. So, to answer more directly your questions, i see consciousness as growing, i see that there will be a point at which it is taken seriously by the mainstream. But we live in relatively unconscious times. I perhaps cope best with my yearnings for a more conscious society in the following way. By recognising that my level of consciousness, and even awareness and ability to embrace spirituality keenly as an answer to some of life's questions is a privilege. A goddamn privilege. I say goddamn in emphasis, not in judgment. The toils and troubles of countless cause & effect relationships and countless people have given rise to this knowledge that i have, that we have. Unconsciousness builds consciousness. Every house that is built. Every road that is paved. it is all part of the road to higher consciousness and to spirituality. and further in recognising my privilege i understand that it is a gift, and a gift i can work to bestow upon others as i can. Right now i cannot go out and do anything but preach ideas and practices i haven't really integrated or mastered, and would be simply preaching. However, one day i wish to cultivate a mastery of both a spiritual practice and the ability to spread the fruits of that practice in community. And surrender myself to simply be a part of the evolution of mankind towards higher consciousness.

I do think a limitation of the teachings are a lack of prioritising connection with others. Like deep intimate connections. And also once surpassing one's own internal limitations, i.e. traumas, going out into the world enjoying and flowing with life. Spreading love and job naturally. Be that in one's own pursuits of craftsmanship, or the arts, or music etc. For me actualized teachings only become beautiful to the degree that i can bring beauty and emancipation to others, after achieving it for myself. But perhaps the introverted nature that Leo says he has is at the forfront here. It is easy to project one's own desires and wishes onto other. I know my life and my desires. I desire to connect deeply with others, and i want this so much that i cannot really consider the possibility that anyone does not. So, i am biases by the extent of my desires and may simply attribute desires to others who hold no such desires. So while we may see the good life as being out in the world, Leo may see it more on his own. That said, i may be speaking of things of which i do not really know. Spirituality is not a field i have explored massively as of yet in terms of deep personal experiences. And so perhaps i am in ignorance of a different way that reality can beautifully be experienced. I do have trouble with grating and abrupt nature of many of your posts @Nilsi but i think this post here shows a very valuable side to your character. I must say I dislike it when you appear to denigrate others, and i edited this post accordingly but you do make very insightful points about the actualized community at times, to my mind at least. And this post certainly contains such insights , to my mind.

@Thought Art My guy speaking facts!

@Nilsi You are correct. As soon as i became mod my mind ceased to think. Since becoming mod, every time i have to make a decision i go to my shrine to Leo, and sit for half an hour just thinking 'What would Leo do?'! Just yesterday I was at the grocery store, and the clerk asked me if I wanted a receipt. Startled I ran back to my home, and contemplated for 30 minutes, then returned. I came back to the store as soon as I could. Well actually i couldn't go as quickly because the store closed when i tried to come back the first time. But when i did return the next day, I gleefully walked up and said 'Yes, please' to the cashier. They told me they were very confused and didn't know what i was talking about, and then i reminded them about the receipt. And they said 'oh yeah', and the receipt was mine!

I was hoping users could help me generate a set of journaling prompts around exploring the topic of guilt. If you also have a resource like a book you can recommend that would be great. Thanks in advance.

@Rasheed Maybe you've heard the cliché that we stand on the shoulders of giants. What most of the names you mentioned wrote about was, to my knowledge, highly controversial and overdeveloped in their time periods. Its just that relative to today its underdeveloped. Kant, for example, was looked at, in his day, as publishing ground-breaking work by claiming that earthquakes are caused by natural rather than supernatural phenomena, whilst that would be mundane today.