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Here is my take. Firstly, focus on asking open ended question and validating there response. By validating you don’t have to agree, you can just show that understanding of why they might have a certain attitude. For example, if someone says they ‘hate right wingers because they always talk about immigration and it’s really just them being racist’, you can say ‘I see. That makes sense to me why you might feel hatred towards people who you believe are acting in a racist way’. Secondly, with the open ended questions you can ask them questions whose answers require exploring why these people that they judge act in that way. Ie ‘they believe that because they are racist’ then ask ‘where do you think their racism comes from’. And now you slowly introduce the frame that there is always some understandable cause for why people act or think as they do. Therefore you shift the discussion into tier 2 territory. Thirdly, you you start pushing the discussion towards what factors could cause people to engage in better behaviour. Now you are moving more into discussion of how to change systems of course and effect. For example, can say, “I wonder where racism actually comes from. Is it something learn from where they grew up? What do you think?’. Fourthly, continue the discussion and every time they fall back into judgment, validate their belief without agreeing with it and then shift back into questioning where that behaviour comes from and what factors are needed to change that behaviour. For example, they say ‘They just grow up in communities full of horrible, backwards people I think. It makes me sick!’ You can reply, ‘It makes sense to me why you would feel sickened by the thought of those sorts of communities [validation]. The idea of that sort of community sounds horrible to me too. I wonder how communities even get like that. How can some places produce cultures of inclusivity, eduction and equality, and some produce cultures of hatred, and exclusion. I wonder what factors make the difference. [shifting frame from judgment to understanding cause-and-effect relationships].’ So, without ever even challenging any of their points you have had a discussion that has led to the other person to start to think about root causes of behaviour and systems of cause and effect. Fifthly, you can then bring in your own stage yellow and above models now that the discussion has the underlying frame of systems thinking. This is just me theorising. But I think in hypothesis it could be a useful model.

For any problem, research-experiment-reflect. That is something I believe in and I don’t see where it wouldn’t. But I still have lots of things to solve in my life, so I can’t be too confident in the general advice I give.

I don’t see why extremely high unemployment leads to ww3. However, I do worry that it would lead to a mass loss of purpose for many people. And that is serious. Plus too much free time could make crime go up maybe but that is just speculation from me. I guess one counter argument is that people will engage in their hobbies and interests such as the arts and painting and the like. But those sorts of things only appeal to certain personality types imo and moreso women. Sort of reminds me of when some governments started running ‘learn to code’ programmes. Here, to my understanding, they would try and get laid off industrial workers to learn to code instead and it seemingly didn’t go very well because it didn’t fit the profile of the worker. 4 day work week could be cool though.

I think an issue with criticising Israel is just that, criticising Israel. Israel is just the name of a nation. It’s particular far right political parties within Israel that are responsible for their aggression imo. To my understanding, Netanyahu’s power lies a lot in maintain a coalition with some other far right political parties in Israel too. So it’s appropriate to criticise those actors not just Israel as a whole imo

Imo that is a very interesting imo. Imo, nah scrap that actually… imho, some aspects are same about our imos. But also imo some aspects are different about our imos. Imo it’s important to focus on the aspects of our imos.

Imo, my imo is different from your imo in some ways. But also imo, your imo is the same as my imo.

Imo the only reason we follow Leo’s work and perhaps know a lot more than some people on some things is just a result of circumstances, life experience and genetics. If you had the circumstances, life experiences and genetics of anyone else, you’d be doing and thinking the exact same as them imo. As would would I. Also , if something exists then there is every excuse for that thing to exist imo. And it is delusion to think otherwise imo.

Well I’d argue one reason is that a lot of low quality content is made to be very addictive. There is a subject called consumer neuroscience where companies fund studies into how to best trigger peoples brains to engage with their stuff. So they are hacking your brain’s operating system to force you more and more to engage with their low quality content. In consequence, people engage a lot in low quality content and that leads to much ignorance imo. At least this is one reason why many are ignorant.

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That would funny af ahahaha

Nice post but… Not quite my tempo 😉

I love civ 3! The unit stacking scares me tho lmao

Can try trauma release exercises and ifs therapy. Plus can also try to spot when you are engaging in black and white thinking. Also routine can help but basics like diet, exercise, good sleep and journalling too imo.

Fr these people can weigh you down imo

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I just want an anime gf who tells me I’m stage yellow. That’s all I know.

@Leo Gura what form of government do you think is most ideal? I would guess you believe that certain government are useful at certain stages of development. But I’d be curious to know what you think the best society would be for human flourishing? Ie imagine you could build perfect society

I’m confused though, Marxism is just a theory of historical progress. Marx argued that a communist state was inevitable, to my understanding, but did not make a value judgment on it

Thanks for the compliment bro ❤️ I will definitely consider giving it a read, and I am interested to see how I will find it in light of your points about it. I suppose I tend to associate anything sports wise with orange but your points have made me consider a new perspective. So thank you for that. Hope you have a good day 🎉

I dunno. I think people should be able to post what they want on this forum, along as it’s within forum guidelines. Sure I might rather people didn’t but I think it’s toxic to just demand they stop posting something they are allowed to do. No one here is superior to anyone else and so no one should be demanding anything, unless they’re demanding someone stop being disrespectful, imo

I would see this as green personally. Like as the sign of an open heart. I think a focus on personal growth, potential fulfilment and doing your personal best are pretty standard stage orange traits. A key reason being that there is not a focus on the big picture, ie helping a large population. I still think that would be stage orange. Because again it’s happening in the context of personal strategy and competition. But yeah this is just my opinion. Interesting ideas though mate imo.

Mr Steal yo dmt

Yeah I think that is a reasonable pov.

AI therapy I would use it probably more for general discussion. However, my iPhone is so old that my iOS doesn’t allow for me to have chatgpt lmao and my laptop is broken

Daaaamn bro you got some smooth footwork imo