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I mean yea, but knowing it's gonna be a very short trip should evaporate almost all anxiety before you take it. You've subconsciously primed and communicated to your body to be calmer during the experience. It's not like LSD where you're fucked for 6+ hours and you got a long way to go to come down.... Salvia replaces your normal reality so blatantly that you can't (or hardily) even have the capacity to have thoughts or feel emotions anyways. It's like being tripped by the legs from behind, you don't even have time to get mad or react. It just happens. Unlike some other popular psychedelics where that leg tripping happens in slow motion, and you are still able to think, "FUCK this guy tripping me. Man this is gonna hurt. God damn I can't even do anything about it.............ugghhh."

Salvia isn't really dangerous, because you will be 100% sober in 10-20 minutes after you take it. It completely shatters your reality, but it reforms the way it should shortly after. You are getting spoonful of another dimension. The danger is what you do while you're on it. You lose complete bodily control. That is dangerous. DO NOT EVER TAKE Salvia if you don't have a trustworthy sitter.

@Leo Gura Interesting. My salvia trip was remarkably not that frightening. I mean I lost 100% motor and visual function, and sense of having a body, and literally became different objects in the room. But neither panic nor dread came into it. In the back of my mind I still had the feeling of knowing I was on a drug, and that I would be back in 10 minutes, even if I couldn't articulate it in English thoughts in my mind. By the way what is your sleep schedule like, isn't it like 4 am in Las Vegas lol? Do you have a regular sleep pattern or do you just sleep at your leisure?

@Bittu What is the most important thing I need to hear right now?

I don't know if you've experienced this yet, but once you're on a truly healthy diet and eating well, having trash junk food, fast food, and bad food in general will become disgusting to you. It may even make you feel sick. My advice is to force yourself to go through that initial pain, and cross that threshold. Once you do it will be almost impossible to go back.

Why does there have to be a why? Just in asking the question you are limiting answers you subconsciously don't want to hear by making assumptions like that. Seriously consider all possibilities, and be willing to surrender to whatever answer comes your way.

Don't buy into conspiracy theories, almost 100% of them always turn out to be false bullshit. People have their own beliefs and opinions on things, they then go out and seek information and "evidence", and twist it to support a conclusion they made up in their mind long ago. It's not true at all. China has been hurt badly by this, not only economically but they ironically tarnished their own image even more by trying to hide the virus from the world, killing journalists in the process. It removes even more trust from a tenuous relationship with Western powers and makes it's people even more resentful of their government. China really is an amazing case study for collective ego, and how if you try so hard to have complete control over the identity and narrative of something it will backfire in your face. They are trying to hold onto a bar of wet soap by squeezing it as hard as they can. It inevitably slips out every time and it's HILARIOUS.

@Leo Gura What does logic have to do with it? To do this kind of work or take any psychedelics is transcendent and counter-intuitive to logic. At least to the traditional logic that people use to defend and keep their ego/self from death. My point was how do you know when enough is enough for someone else, but now that I've reflected on it I realize it's a stupid question, because you can't. I apologize.

Enlightened, Awake people are not invincible. If you tie them down, torture them, threaten to kill them or their family. The whole thing will fly out the window pretty quickly..............

@Leo Gura That raises an important question. When is enough, enough? If the rabbit hole seems infinite, does that mean you should never stop? Otherwise you're not "serious" enough? Isn't that an egoic judgement? Maybe they were serious and just got more than they bargained for. Anyone's experiences on psychedelics can be so wildly unique in infinite directions. With such shifting terrain what use is it saying you need X amount of trips to get to X insights?

Want to have your mind fucking blown with a musical orgasm?

The most likely interpretation is his ego must be extremely attached to the idea of needing you. While he may be able to accept the immediate relationship as over, he cannot fully let go of the idea in his mind that you "belonged" to him. That you are some kind of monogamous proxy for him, and can never be with anybody else because you were "marked" by him. It's simply attachment. He is insecure and lacking in some area and you filled it, until you left. You are not responsible to plug the holes in his boat. You were merely a passenger on a sinking ship and you had the self respect to put on a life jacket and get off. Just remind him of the lovely things you sailed by together if you ever get the chance again, but remind him that boat ride is over.

You value Leo's opinion too much. He is just one person. Stop the idolization and start doing the work.

It is completely within all of our control. Most people simply don't experiment and therefore they never discover the potential passion hiding within something. They stick within the confines of what is comfortable, and then make judgments and projections about things that make them uncomfortable. Do not fall into that trap. You'll miss a lot of what life has to offer.

I've been some form of vegetarian for quite a few years now. Never really ate any soy products. I don't even know the health effects of it, it honestly just tastes disgusting and that's enough to keep me from eating it.

Hey @Leo Gura if you were to do the value list from your Life Purpose course for yourself; What would be your top 5 values at the START of creating Actualized.Org vs now 8 years in? Have any values completely disappeared or has there just been a shift in the order? I would imagine truth/understanding is #1 at this point hehe

The point is whatever you think it is. By seeking you will find what you're looking for.

I think a decent some people, mostly made up of younger and middle aged groups, will have their attitudes shifted into majority Stage green with this event serving as the catalyst for it. However I think this crisis is more of a serious inconvenience for the majority of people rather than a traumatic kick (like a war on your own soil) that makes them question all the systems in place. After this thing reaches it's peek in a short while and then dies down people will be eager to jump back out into the rat race to "catch up" from what a pain in the ass this was. It's a shame but I just think that's where most people are at. I do think there are some useful ideas and discussions that will come out of this though; - Socialized health care and reform in general will gain a lot more supportive traction in the USA as this virus will showcase with NEON fucking lights the flaws and deficiencies in the current system. - The massive absence of greenhouse gas trajectories from China and other countries shutting down providing some more INDISPUTABLE evidence of human impact and contribution to climate change. - The quarantine will get many people to subconsciously realize that there is more to life than just working working working. You need to be able to depend and be depended on by other people. That like you said relationships will be appreciated more. That in reality we are really all the same and are affected by the same things regardless of race/religion/sexual orientation etc.

Maybe you're overthinking it and it's just the child in your wanting to have a bit of rebellious fun?

That was a beautiful post Emerald! I was gripped the entire time. You write things quite clearly and eloquently. Makes me somewhat terrified to some of the things I'll likely confront when I eventually do my big trip. I'll have to work through some other things first the best I can with the tools I have, however long that takes. So I'm hopefully not going to have my life cut short before I do. I'd rather have curiosity kill this cat than anything else lol. As for the guys bothering you including Leo; You come off as rather annoying and immature in your responses. She said she wants to stop and take a long break. Piss off and stop pestering her to snort more drugs. Accept where she is at.

And then one could say you're just psychoanalyzing him in order to defend Leo because you idolize him from your perspective. Creating yet, another distraction. You see people, it literally never fucking ends. Stop getting lost, sit down, and do the work! (I'm just playing devils advocate @StripedGiraffe)

Are you expecting to be able to flirt with them? What kind of banter we talking about? You shouldn't be thinking about this stuff too much if you have a girlfriend. You'll have to explain a bit more.

@Javfly33 Conscious survival is earning a living by doing work that is helpful for other people, animals, and the environment, or at least significantly more helpful than harmful. Quick examples would be: someone who grows their own food and sells it at a farmers market, someone who manages a not for profit disaster relief organization. A typical marker is having a job where you aren't at the complete behest of someone else and your efforts aren't going into furthering THEIR profits or pay. Most jobs that exist at least in capitalist societies are low consciousness survival jobs. You are serving a system that is generally more harmful than helpful to the world. You are working under someone who doesn't truly give a fuck about you, the company, or the world. They just want more money so they can get a bigger house for themselves and get laid more, ect. Quick examples: Wall street trader, McDonalds employee. Even if most work appears more helpful than harmful it could be the other way around. I'm sure there are lots of examples that are up to debate and it's really just subjective opinion. The point is a lot of the available work in the world is low consciousness and you may be forced to participate in it just to make money and survive. That's ok. Just be working on an alternative in your spare time and save resources to be able to make it a reality. The world needs more conscious work if we really want to make the world a sustainable utopia. Right now though most people don't even realize that's a possibility. They are focused completely on their own selfishness, that is why the environment is collapsing, and wealth inequality between humanity is so bad. Like Terence McKenna said, "We have the money, the power, the medical understanding, the scientific know-how, the love, and the community to produce a kind of human paradise. But we are led by the least among us." Leo also has a video on this subject that is very helpful: Cheers!

What matters is if you enjoy each others presence and make each other happy, and do you feel like this is someone who could support you and that you could support in your lives? If those boxes feel like they are, or could be mostly checked then it's probably worth your time. If you feel like they need to be "spiritually open" enough for you to be able to eventually impose your "type of thinking" on them. Then you aren't really being spiritual nor doing the work properly. Notice the emphasis on the word need. This isn't meant to be a judgement about you based on what you said, just would like to remind you to be weary of the trap. Of course by all means search someone who is most compatible, but understand everyone is unique. Respect it. Embrace it.