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I know that, but that’s the problem, because if Israel accepts the Gaza and West Bank population the Palestinian citizens combined will outnumber Jews and have more influence over government. Also a Israeli court itself said it found Israel discriminates against Arab citizens and Netanyahu basically admitted he is trying to reduce their fertility rate.

The thing is that Israel relies on US aid, but polls show the majority of young people are against them, so in 20 years time probably US aid will start being restricted unless they do a two state solution or one state solution. The problem is there are way too many armed settlers in the West Bank now to do a two states solution, (it would be even hardrr than expelling Gazans), and by then the Palestinian population will have been separated for three generations so they will basically be different societies). But if they do a one state solution then the majority Israel population will be Palestinians and if they demand the right to vote then the government will be controlled by Palestinians not Jews. So what Israel is probably trying to do is cleanse Gaza of most of its population by making it unlivable and eventually pressuring other countries to take them, then they’ll try to cripple hezbollah and either get Lebanon to kick them out or cripple Lebanon as a country, then they can get the US to invade Iran and topple their regime (they really just need one establishment republican to win the presidency for this) , by then there will be enough extremismt in the West Bank for them to do a similar operation there and expel most of their population. Then Israel can simply turn around and say they were actually wrong and agree to accept Palestinians as equal citizens and give them the vote, and the world which would be mounting pressure on them now will forgive them (people are actually very forgiving, like how Germany was largely forgiven despite everything they did) and take it as a victory for their advocacy. But there will be so few Palestinians left they’ll be able to remain a Jewish state.

The “crazy anti Israel wokies” are the only ones who are advocating for a practical solution. If Biden tells Israel to take a ceasefire or they get no more aid, they will have to accept a ceasefire. Multiple past US presidents have done this and it worked every time. Israeli citizens protesting the war but not being against any of the practical means that allow it to continue will not do anything to stop it from continuing. If anything now Netanyahu wants to end the war even less because the second it does he knows they’ll try to throw him out of power and into jail.

I honestly think they should stop protesting. Peaceful protests aren’t enough and can just be ignored and now there is a risk when Israel starts bombing Lebanon more hezbollah may try to bomb Tel Aviv and it could put protestors in danger, even if the rockets are intercepted there could be a stampede. At the same time continuing the protests could motivate Netanyahu to escalate in the north to distract and accuse them of supporting Hezbollah which is now a more capable threat than Hamas. They won’t like to hear it but at this point they’d either need to do a complete strike and riot to the point where the idf can’t sustain troops in Gaza and has to do a ceasefire to have manpower left to stop them and guard the north. Or they’d have to join the anti Israel left and demand Biden condition aid on a ceasefire because if the Israeli population is saying it too the pressure will be too much as he can’t portray himself as pro Israel by supporting the war anymore, and then Netanyahu will have no choice as he can’t sustain the war without the aid and needs it to strike against hezbollah. Or, and this is a long shot, start pressuring the courts to drop the case against Netanyahu and publicly saying they are ok with no elections even if the war ends, Netanyahu is possibly refusing a ceasefire because he’s afraid if he does one they’ll have an election and he’ll lose and then get jail time, so maybe if that’s gone he will consider it. I doubt they’re willing to do any of these though. But barring that I don’t know what they can do. Another problem is if Hamas runs out of living hostages they won’t admit it and will try to draw things out as much as possible as they have nothing to lose anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vivGQWrXdqA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBOSqgPg8jc https://www.shinzen.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/art_urges.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EogjdB3msWA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkfXuIIfULU

Except first trump had to win a primary which was decided by just 10 percent of voters and their votes were split between many candidates. Then in the general it was basically just him and Hillary with tons of special interest funds. If we had banned money in politics, required ranked choice voting, and automatic third party ballot access, it wouldn’t have happened.

Jews were actually allowed to live peacefully in many Muslim countries to escape antisemitism in Europe. Ironically after the creation of Israel in response to the culmination of European antisemitism in the holocaust, it caused a wave of antisemitism in muslim countries whereas antisemitism began dying out in European countries.

I don’t buy the argument that the US supports Israel for shared values, the US has supported many dictatorships and crushed many democracies.

What usually happened was it became an actual dictatorship where the proletariat had even less power which was the problem. A true dictatorship of the proletariat was never properly achieved.

The media just pinned the blame on him and others without knowing the full story. He had a lot less control then they claimed.

All the communists parties morphed and changed their ideology to fit their needs. And that’s not why it failed. It got overthrown for other reasons and wasn’t popular even among the secular leaning city dwellers because of its dictatorial behavior.

They had a large communist party. They may be personally religious but they can have secular political ideology.

There weren’t anti American Arab terrorist networks in the Middle East until the US backed Israel. The biggest factor is the lobby. The US supports a lot of countries but no other country to the point where it’s afraid to even pressure it at all.

Except we can see how Israelis treat Palestinians in the West Bank when the PLO pretty much works with the Israeli government now, so no it wouldn’t.

There were large secular and religious groups in Afghanistan, the Soviet Union funded communism there while the US funded religious fundamentalist. The militant Islamist ideology wasn’t popular and formed from the militias the US funded. It was there choice to fight, but in the end it killed millions and destroyed Afghanistan as a state which caused further bloodshed for decades. Had the US left well enough alone it wouldn’t have ended nearly as badly. See Vietnam, the US also funded Vietnamese who wanted to fight communists and even fought with them, but hundreds of thousands died, in the end the communists one, and Vietnam isn’t even that bad a place to live, it accomplished nothing but suffering. I didn’t say communism spreading was debunked, the idea it spreads from country to country like dominos was.

US officials admitted they funded Islamists in Afghanistan to trigger a soviet invasion to kill Soviets and weaken the Soviet Union. This resulted in over 2 million Afghani civilians dying. The idea that communism was spreading was a theory called domino theory that has been debunked. It also lead to the Vietnam war. The CIA’s behavior was catastrophic.

I know, but by funding the islamists bin Laden and others rode their victory to fame which later allowed him to form Al queda and spread extremist ideology, and some of the Islamists turned into the taliban

So why would they want to abandon their Israel project? They aren’t that smart. They funded Islamists in Afghanistan to trigger a Soviet invasion and that lead to the taliban and Al Queda, then they failed to catch Osama Bin Laden. They also installed a dictator in Iran and it lead to the Islamic revolution and a major actor resisting the US.

More like they had a death wish