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She’s just repeating Biden’s call for one, they elaborate that it’s not actually a call for a ceasefire

What would be very devious but extremely effective would be China and Russia arming Iran and Syria then pushing them to attack Israel forcing the US to intervene, the US will be forced to spend most of its assets in the Middle East leaving Russia and China to expand their influence unimpeded.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-11/ty-article/.premium/israeli-army-says-it-failed-to-protect-kibbutz-beeri-residents-in-oct-7-hamas-attack/00000190-a213-dd20-abfa-fe1748d00000

So if you are against double standards, do you think the US should cut off all aid to Israel as US law is to not provide aid to countries that have nuclear weapons outside of the non proliferation treaty, which Israel does?

- They aren’t defending themselves. Hamas already offered a ceasefire from day 1, and idf military officials admit they can’t destroy Hamas. - No one says they are unqualified to defend themselves. They’ve received billions in aid and weapon sales. - It wasn’t way worse than 9/11, 9/11 killed 3K people, Oct 7 killed 1.2K -They aren’t hated by the UN, the UN follows international law and correctly reports on them breaking it - Yes, none of this has to do with oppression. They are one of the strongest militaries in the world and have a large economy. The people they are fighting have no Air Force are blockaded in a small strip of land and Israel can shutoff their water and gas whenever they want. All irrelevant or baseless speculation What is your evidence stage green Palestine supports don’t want “Hamas to be destroyed”? Generally their argument is the process of destroying Hamas isn’t worth the civilian loss of life or isn’t feasible. If they support Hamas they wouldn’t be so critical of the Israeli government previously funding Hamas. Yes, Jews were oppressed by Europe. That doesn’t mean Jews are currently oppressed in Europe now or that Israelis are being oppressed by Palestinians. - if Palestinians are oppressed, Israelis aren’t, they can’t be both oppressor and the oppressed - The mainstream is generally on the side of Israel and that continues today. The only politicians and media figures who have sided with Palestine are the most leftist. - Multiple former IDF and Israeli politicians themselves have come out and called for a ceasefire purely for tactical reasons. It isn’t just a stage green position.

Yes Green usually is biased with the oppressed, which is why they are biased for Palestinians. Whereas stage blue and orange side with Israel for religious or industrial reasons, stage green generally sides with Palestine because they don’t support Israeli oppression of them. Stage green support for Palestine is not support for killing infidels, that isn’t even particularly relevant as Hamas isn’t motivated by that either despite their Islamist beliefs. The founder of Hamas himself said they aren’t targeting Jews for being Jewish and Gaza has a population of Christians Hamas hasn’t sought to destroy. Also you’re making the mistake of conflating stage green support for Palestine with support for Hamas. Stage green would never agree that Israelis are oppressed and “retaking their homeland”, it hadn’t been a Jewish homeland in thousands of years and Stage green generally doesn’t support nationalism. Israel has a much larger military and international support and control the situation with the blockade and occupation, by definition not being oppressed. The Palestinians were driven off their homeland they lived on for centuries, so stage green views them as indigenous. If you want to continue this we should talk in the Israel Palestine news thread where everyone else is discussing, it is getting off topic here.

How are there more older married men then women?

Needing your support to be based on them having the same values as you is a lower stage behavior, a hallmark of healthy stage green is beginning to appreciate other perspectives such as affinity for indigenous The idea Israelis are taking back their land is based on the Bible and such religious reasoning is lower than stage green.

Now calculate the Gaza death toll in comparison to the relative size of Gazas population. Also throw in the 2008-9 war, 2012 war, 2014 war, and 2018 protest. Maybe you’ll see why Gazans are hostile to the force that blockades them and what lead up to Oct 7 instead of assuming it came out of nowhere. Nothing about this war is taking care of yourself, Hamas is still operational and a paltry amount of hostages were rescued. No one in Israel is safer because of it and they definitely weren’t safer because of the conflicts that lead to Oct 7. ”no one else will” isn’t true either, Israel receives a huge amount of military aid whereas Palestinians have been barred from advocacy for decades.

What evidence do you have they were firing rockets from the school? So all the kids were playing at the school in broad daylight while rockets were flying out of it just expecting to be bombed?

- for most of human history we lived in small tribes and survived on hunting and tribal warfare, it actually makes sense for women in the past to go for violent men because those men who have the capacity to protect them and succeed at hunting. This makes less sense in civilization which evolved hand in hand with patriarchy because violence is outsourced to the state and we have laws against it, so if anything women should be attracted less to violent men in patriarchy as now a man’s strength doesn’t dictate his survival. - If patriarchy conditions women to go for abusive violent men, why do patriarchies usually have cultures which push men to have chivalry and treat women as delicate? As patriarchy is reduced it’s changing, but it was true relatively recently and still somewhat. I saw an old news broadcast where they interviewed men in Australia about women being allowed in bars and clubs and many of the men said they were afraid to even curse infront of a woman. More famous examples would be like the knight codes of honor that had all sorts of rules about interacting with women, Japanese samurai were supposed to walk in front of women at all times in case she needed protection, Muslim men are supposed to lower their gaze when they see a woman to not direct lust at her, in contemporary western country it was standard for men to pay for dates, open doors, pull chairs out and give her their jacket when she is cold. These are all the result of patriarchal conditioning.

4 hour body by Tim Ferris supposedly has a method

How else do you explain the success up Trump, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Bernie Sanders, AOC etc.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2024-06-28/ty-article/.premium/gazan-journalists-document-how-palestinians-are-resorting-to-gathering-leaves-for-food/00000190-594f-dc65-abff-796f9b360000 https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/04/09/gaza-israels-imposed-starvation-deadly-children https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/09/world/middleeast/israel-west-bank-violence-yehuda-fuks.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLH7yUwkBPg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzeXRDUk1ds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIsy_HSHkKo

Most of the leftists I’m seeing are asking for a different centrist candidate to replace Biden. There is of course a minority that is gone because of Israel and other things Biden did, but that’s a small segment with no discernible impact in the general, aside from maybe Michigan but those aren’t leftists they are Arab Americans.

Leftists were the ones demanding a primary in the first place, had that happen and Biden lost if people saw his issues in a dem primary debate this wouldn’t be an issue because we’d have a different dem nominee. Leftists weren’t the ones who cancelled the primary and are running someone who can’t talk, that is the establishment dems. How was it irresponsible to say Biden is too old when Biden is now on the verge of losing because he’s too old? Leftists aren’t the ones making Biden lose in polls, they are demanding he drop out so he is replaced with someone who isn’t too old precisely so the dems don’t lose which they are on path too. leftists wanted Biden out -> Biden stays in -> Biden loses -> you: why would leftists do this? that makes no sense, you can’t do the opposite of what leftists want then blame them when it doesn’t work

Stage green support for Israel is generally bad faith hypocrisy or toxic stage blue shadow, see destiny:

An exclusive interview with Hamas officials https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/on-the-record-with-hamas

The problem is that because no party has an absolute majority they will face tons of dysfunction and gridlock, France has serious declining issues so the left and center parties who have a higher amount of seats will be blamed for it, allowing the far right to have a much better chance in the next election since they can campaign on that.

That’s not necessarily true. There have been other world powers throughout history but they don’t all behave the same way. US behavior may be influence from the British empire.

I linked you two articles from Israeli outlets, read them for yourself, I didn’t make it up.