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It’s funny you keep talking about how high conscious and honest you are, but every argument you make is evasive and assumes context that was never there. 1) for the cold approach point you had to insert a comparison that it’s all about sex like selling a bad product. First off that doesn’t prove your entitlement argument, a poor sales man with a bad product still isn’t innately being entitled, he’s just doing a bad job. Secondly I never said that I was suggesting cold approach inherently necessitates that. You can cold approach without being pushy for sex. By the way, if we listen to you and try to get girls by following our goals and having social circles, it’s the same thing, we are doing it for a secondary motive of getting laid. You can’t escape the pesky fact that desires exist and want to be fulfilled no matter how much you demonize it. 2) you’re now conflating successful long term relationships with the conversation topic of attraction women and getting sex, not the same thing, in fact little of the skills carry over between them. 3) you’re still latching onto the idea that a man’s success with women is determined by how high conscious he is and thus you can continue using it as a criticism, like just above asserting emotionalmosquito can’t get girls because he has a bad mindset. Are you sure you are being honest with this belief, and it’s just a coincidence it happens to line up with your moral paradigm and fulfill a just world fallacy for you? Irregardless there are plenty of studies finding traits that are toxic for a long term relationship can actually make a man more attractive to women. If you really want me too I can start dropping them here, but just think about it logically- 1) if women can sniff out toxic men and only want morally good men, why do so many women complain they ended up with men who abused them, cheated on them, or just mistreated them in some way? 2) what are the base traits that make a man attractive initially to women? If you are honest you’d see they either have no correlation to morality or possibly a negative correlation. Ex. Looks, status, and location. None of that determines morality. Then we have confidence, ability to escalate, smooth with girls. These traits can be gained by experience, and men with experience are more often players, or they can even be gained by high narcissism.

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How does that dispute my point? I never said social circle can’t result in successes. My point is telling guys “don’t approach women, just get a social circle” is a misleading answer, it takes a huge amount of effort for limited returns due to limitations of social groups.

Not when Israel is occupying and blockading them they can’t.

No he isn’t, he is not that influential, there are already societal problems which influence him and the Internet, blaming him for it all is silly. What is more likely, everyone came to rsd with no issues and he toxified them, or among the large fan base some came in with issues? And extrapolating that to blame him for Andrew Tate and their ilk is just silly, they only popped off from the vacuum after he was removed.

lol now you’re blaming him for an entire cultural problem?

Israeli’s are protesting because Netanyahu is corrupt. When it comes to Palestine they actually feel he’s too moderate. Even if Jews have a better culture, that doesn’t give them the right to slaughter Palestinians and take their land. If you’re still suggesting the poor quality in life in Gaza is because of Palestinian culture and not Israel, that is so laughable and delusional I do not know what to say.

Has hamas ever harmed any Jews outside of historical Palestine? Why did Hamas’s founder say the organization was founded not to fight Jews but to fight occupiers? Would Hamas have been founded and gotten popularity if Israel wasn’t committing so much violence towards Palestinians? Notice how their popularity grew after every military action.

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He said surely said some bad things at times in the hundreds of hours of talks he produced, some of which when he was only 20 and thought his audience was just a couple hundred other puas, and definitely told edgy jokes. What Leo doesn’t understand is that the media and mob tactic is to zoom in on the 1% of mistakes and over exaggerate it to delegitimize a movement. No large scale group talking about a controversial subject could survive this sort of hatchet job. He got taken out not because of bad things he said, but because they wanted to take him out so they found bad things he said.

That’s not really true. Other PUA’s who didn’t have any of the edgy content like Adam Lyons and Christian Hudson also had their channels banned or got dropped from their banks. His content was never unethical or abusive, he didn’t advocate for anything like that. Yours wasn’t censored because it didn’t include infield and isn’t popular enough. If it was more popular it probably would be, I’ve seen many people online calling it misogynistic and unethical, it just didn’t pick up steam like it did for RSD.

Amazing how you think Palestinians are an inferior race, Jews are superior and therefore exempt from morality, and Israel is justified in ethnic cleansing for this reason, and somehow everyone else is the nazi.

Traditionalism and being high value doesn’t work because women cheat and the purpose of women in your life is not to settle down as that’s just a way you manipulate yourself but rather the purpose is to force you into presence, and game content was censored because it exposed the truth and now he will stop discussing this because he wants to expose other truths because he thinks civilization is being depopulated or something.

1. Yes, it’s a serious time commitment and effort for limited returns if you have poor social skills and poor game which can be improved through cold approach. 2. Notice how you immediately look to blame the guy. This is why taking advice from people like you is so pointless, you aren’t actually trying to help, you just want to say what you believe should work and if it doesn’t you will just blame the person rather than considering if your advice is bad. Let’s say I have a social circle with 5 attractive single women. Great right? Ok I ask one out and she rejects me. Well guess what, in some form or another the others will find out. Now if I ask a second she’s going to feel like she was a back up option. And if she rejects you also? It’s over, now everyone else will just reject you by default to go along with the herd. Then you’ve developed a reputation as the weird guy who hits on every girl. “the friend zone” is a common complaint because it’s a common problem, it can be harder to turn a platonic friendship romantic which is why guys always hear “I like you as a friend”.

No it doesn’t, it comes from a mindset of being disappointed something you’re doing isn’t working. If you want to make more sales for your business but are struggling, and I tell you to do a cold sale technique, and you get frustrated it’s not working, does this mean you are acting entitled to sales? Let’s say he follows your advice and gets a high conscious goal and becomes a better person, and he still doesn’t get results, when he complains about that you will just turn around and say he’s acting entitled. It’s a blatant deflection. You simply lack experience as you haven’t witnessed how many successful guys struggle with women and how many unsuccessful guys do great. It’s not pseudo science, it’s basic logic. Yes the guys who got women were the ones who could protect them. But that was in a completely different environment than today. Many women themselves admit they are attracted to arrogant or toxic men, why? One reason why is because such traits actually show survival value, in the environment we evolved for. In the modern day things like wealth, loyalty, values are more important, but that’s socially conditioned, not on a genetic basis. The socialization process you’re referring to involved things like religion, taboos against sexuality, and arranged marriages. In this environment you didn’t succeed with women by being confident and charismatic, you succeeded by being wealthy and convincing her family to marry her to you. That isn’t the case anymore, these social systems are dissolving. This is why you need to actually learn game and develop naturally attractive traits. Conflating what women are attracted to, to morality or even competency is inaccurate and misleading. When it comes to short term mating an over-confident frat boy will do way better than a awkward IT genius.

1. Not everyone has access to large high quality social circles, especially now 2. Social circle game can be harder and higher risk because you have to be wary of your reputation

This is horrible advice and even worse logic. “Cold approach” doesn’t mean you feel entitled to sex. That’s like saying a cold sales call means you’re acting entitled to sales. It literally just means approaching someone you don’t know. Stop accusing men of being entitled for having basic desires and wanting to seek opportunities to fulfill them. That’s NOT entitlement, it’s just you using shaming language to avoid addressing the problem. ”just follow your goals and women will come”, no they won’t, this largely doesn’t work, women rarely make the first move and if they do it’s not going to be your best option. you also are framing it like it’s a binary choice, it isn’t, nothing about doing cold approach stops you from having a high conscious goal or vice versa. That’s like saying “don’t go to parties in college, instead study”, most people will balance both. We evolved for horn dog and entitled men to get sexual success. Evolutionarily the men who got success were the ones who felt entitled to the women and thus had the confidence to approach, and the ones horny enough to be motivated to do it. Civilization put on the breaks with things like arranged marriage yes, but that’s gone now, if a guy wants true success he has to master the roots of what’s attractive biologically.

Because there are 10-20 women men consider attractive for every 1 guy women consider high social status or with great game.

1. If that was true Israel’s government wouldn’t spend money on online units to correct the record. 2. By that logic the entire online political forum here and everywhere is pointless and everyone should stop talking

Again you are strawmanning. What you fail to consider is 1) the US funds the IDF not Hamas, it makes sense to focus on what we ourselves are involved in and 2) Israel is the occupying and blockading force, so yes they hold more blame Why would Hamas no longer being in power create a possibility for change if as you said every other faction isn’t incentivized to change? Lets assume Hamas is replaced by a party that gives up armed resistance, what changes, they already have that in the West Bank with the PLO and they’re seemingly on the verge of getting replaced by a armed resistance faction given their massive unpopularity, its only not happening because of the IDF’s brutal repression. No it’s not simple. The reason Oct 7 happened was because Israel thought it took out Hamas’s ability to stage attacks so they loosened guards in the Gazan border. Hamas being thrown out of power isn’t going to make it any easier to steer things in the right direction. Israel doesn’t want to change directions which is why they refused to deal with Hamas politically which is why Hamas resorts to violence. You’re also ignoring the main argument for the cease fire, it is for humanitarian reasons, there are hundreds of thousands of Gaza’s at risk of starvation, they are amputating the limbs off of children without anesthesia. Even putting aside long term political goals, a cease fire even if temporary is the correct option to save tens of thousands of innocent lives. If Israeli’s were the ones being slaughtered no one would say “don’t bother with a cease fire, the fighting will just happen again anyway”.

No he isn’t https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/news-sanders-urges-president-biden-to-withdraw-support-for-10-1-billion-in-military-aid-to-israel-and-support-un-efforts-for-a-humanitarian-ceasefire/

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Giving aid to civilians isn’t the same as supporting Hamas militarily. The left, and even the right frankly, have been predicting this forever. We already settled into a pattern of Israel refuses to budge and offer a path to peace and ending the blockade, hamas attacks usually because of Israeli provocations the media refuses to consider, Israel bombards Gaza. The only difference is Hamas pulled off a much bigger attack. Israel’s government decided it seeks expansion over security and the population completely fell for the demonization, they cannot be reached at this point. The majority of Israeli’s now support Gazans being expelled, they want ethnic cleansing. The left cannot convince them, they can only pressure the US to pressure Israel. That’s only if the ceasefire is all that is done. If efforts are made to actually create a path to a political solution, it may be avoided. Also as I’ll explain later, not having a ceasefire doesn’t lead to a different outcome either. Hamas emerged due to the conditions the Palestinians are in and engage in violence because they don’t have a political solution. Even if Hamas is destroyed, the conditions are there for another similar violent group to take its place. calls to destroy hamas by the Israeli government is clearly just to give them a war aim that justified indefinitely extending the war and engaging in as much ethnic cleansing as possible, how exactly do we know when hamas is destroyed? It is an ideology. Many former IDF and Israeli politicians themselves openly admit it’s unclear if Israel can completely destroy hamas. How many decades of violence should we support them to see if they can pull it off? Even if a cease fire causes just a temporary pause in violence, that is more than worth it. It could mean saving the lives of the hostages and create space for diplomacy. Israel has slaughtered 20,000 Palestinians and is on the verge to double that, so saying they should at least consider taking a break between this means I don’t care their lives? Doesn’t really make sense. It is simple logic that creating worse conditions than the conditions that created Hamas will not be beneficial in the long term. If no one of real influence is suggesting it, it doesn’t matter and sounds like a deflection. That’s actually the opposite of what’s true. Israel’s motives are very clear and obvious as we can see their direct plans, they regularly make statements directly to the media or that get leaked to the media. You just have to ignore the obvious propaganda. Hamas on the other hand is much harder to understand. Your description of their motives shows this, they aren’t wild animals without a plan, they have clear motivations and tactics for what they are doing. What I keep trying to explain is they engage in violence because political avenues for them are blocked as Israel refuses to negotiate with them because they don’t want to lead towards a state and considered them a terrorist organization. It’s a obvious ploy to justify backing them into a corner so they use violence to further justify Israel in refusing a state and bombarding Gaza. - that doesn’t matter, a war with Hezbollah and Houti’s will kill many Israeli’s even if they win, these groups have far more soldiers and resources than Hamas and Israel would have to fight them both at once while also being tied up in Gaza and trying to suppress the West Bank from fighting back while settlers murder them. - Israel already rejected a third party or joint occupying force in Gaza. A moderate government is not going to form after so many have been killed, they are being occupied, and they have no path to a political solution because Israel clearly wants to ethnically cleanse them.