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That is what I'm trying to be. Just be the observer and use intuition to enfold. Does that answer my question about LP and being versus doing?

If you want to achieve your LP as a human, there is a lot of work and perhaps even stress. Can someone explain to me how LP fits into being? Being able to tolerate stress and not suffer is hard. I rather just be a bird, but then I won't reach my full potential and suffer too.

I guess you are right. Dating is like poker I guess. Deception is part of the game and one shouldn't expect the opposite side to show their cards. But as they say, don't hate the player, hate the game. Nobody is forcing anybody to play the game. I get frustrated by the game too but I don't have any other option than to be a better manipulator. This works. Women can unconsciously sense when you are full of cum. It is crazy how this works.

If we are honest to females, we won't get anything, that is why we are forced to play your games to get the honey.

To shit together like in Roman times.

Why do you think a lot of men don't understand females? Like she said in the video. Females won't say what they want. They want the male to figure it out. We males just tell what we want. We don't play games. I'm not talking about this forum. I'm talking in general.

I like how she explains everything from 1st person in such a mindful way. Especially cross referencing about male/female perspective on a stripclub with the female equivalent was eye opening. Male perspective on sex is very straightforward. The female perspective is not so straightforward. It kind of makes sense why most men are clueless, especially with feminism running amok.

Stop looking for a quick fix. If you have a structural problem, you need a structural fix. I recommend the book "Mindset" by Carol Dweck.

True. There is a difference between constructive judgement and destructive judgement.

I like reddit

Be a killer in what you do.

I don't know if I agree. There are a lot of women who make dating choices based on feelings alone. Males on the other hand are more autistic. They look at the physical (sexual) value. With age, males can get past that but rarely does he become like a woman who operates fully on emotions when picking a mate. A female would marry an ugly or fat guy if his status is high or if he has money and funny. But a good looking male wouldn't marry a fat woman just for status, funniness and money. It is very unlikely.

@Ghartok Padhome honesty with pickup is only valuable if you live in a small place. If you live in an urban area, no way women know you care about the female agenda or are just out there to get yours. Most females care about their own agenda. The thought of dating a low value man and caring for his agenda (as a good gesture) would instantly dry her pussy up. But they expect men to care about their agenda though.

It is how the female brain is wired and conditioned. I'm not blaming them. They are physically weak so if the truth will squash them they will joyfully shit on the truth. Look at the weird gender neutrality manipulation that is going on. It is all females who are trying to reprogram gender so they can be feminine and be masculine at the same time. It simply doesn't work.

@Hello from Russia your gf didn't like your honesty per se. She liked your nonchalance about the fact that you are a high value man and that you have options other than her. Try to be honest about something that lowers your value in her eyes and come back to the forum to report.

A machine is totally honest. A human is not. We don't want to hurt other people's feelings and we tell white lies. We tell ourselves lies too. If you tell your boss the truth about him if you don't like him or the truth about your colleagues you won't last very long. Especially girls don't like the truth. I found this out the hard way. Males are more autistic/truthful. It kind of makes sense. Just look at all the sneaky/bitchy shit women do to each other. Males don't do this to each other. And if we want to be with females we have to play their games.

Ok, I can take honesty out of my LP values list.

So when should one use dishonesty as an enlightened person and when not?

Agreed.

Ben Shapiro still could get pussy left and right. I liked what Leo said here: A guy who is good with women has to have the CAPACITY to be both a full on asshole in a masculine way. It doesn't mean that guy has to BE it. Women can feel if a man has the capacity to be a dick, to be dangerous, to be masculine. If a guy is paralyzed and can't demonstrate that he has to be the capacity to be a dick, her pussy will dry quicker than a than a desert.

I didn't know Pagan was doing coaching.

I wouldn't call that a meta skill. Meta skills are very specific and watered down skills. For communication you need multiple skills to be able to do it effectively. Also communication can't be used with every aspect of life.

I used the search function but I couldn't find a thread that lists all the meta-skills Structure versus content Separateness versus sameness Explicit versus implicit Open-mindedness versus close-mindedness

I have categorized Actualized meta skills like this: Skills of the higher observer: Structure versus content Separateness versus sameness Explicit versus implicit Needy vs Non-Needy Perception Skills of the intuition and EQ Introspection Letting go Open-mindedness versus close-mindedness Meditation (with various sub-skills) Skills of the intellect: Question' ability - asking quality questions Self deception - attunement to your own and other self-deception This is not the full list, but the list we got until now. More can be added if you have suggestions. Meta skill = skill that can be applied in all areas of life

How Lives Imitates Chess is a book that is an eye opener. If I was less conscious I would just be an asshole and not give two fucks. The average person doesn't have the resources and time to be nuanced and if women rather have an asshole than a kind person, so be it. They ask we deliver. From a female perspective that is true.