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I gave almost everything she wanted and she still didn't want sex so fuck that. If I acted as a brad and just bought her the ice cream and put her on her spot things would have gone different. I'm just glad for the experience, girls are great teachers if you oberve to what they respond to, not what they say they respond to. I just wanted an one night stand. No way I would date her. lol. She took me by surprise. I was just weak and very insecure. I didn't want to come of as a cheap ass but at the same time I didn't like she acted so entitled. It was a shit test and I failed it. They are beautiful and if a lot of guys want them they know they hold power and they might want to exploit that by wanting material stuff. Basically as a guys we either have to provide the material stuff (like a provider beta male) or provide the emotions (as a fuck boy). I'm not interested in being the latter. I think my insecurities are a major obstacle in my dating. I'm not sure how to tackle this problem though. I have some books on my reading list like pillars of self-esteem and I'm reading Teal Swan's work on emotional healing.

That is what I wanted to do but I was afraid she would scratch my car. lol. I knew what I was getting into so I was not dissapointed. I did it for the experience. So the bottom line is that my insecurities is the root problem? To be honest, I didn't have anything in common with this girl. There wasn't a real connection because she was so different from me: she got nothing going in her life, she was uneducated, and all she could talk about is fun stuff. I didn't know how to connect to her so I'm not disappointed for not getting sex. I always thought that communication is about what is being said but what is not being said is just as important. Being able to walk away is so important. Letting her earn treats and gifts is just as important. But now that I think about it that is really the least of my problems. I'm just very insecure, not sure what to feel, to think and what to say with a girl. If the girl is hot enough I would pay the first date, but if me and her are on the same level in terms of value, I expect equal investment from her, otherwise why would I date her? That is why ugly guys pay for dates because that is the only way a hot girl would go on a date with him. This girl was below my standards so I didn't want to invest a lot. An ice cream is more than enough for the first date. She is on tinder and shit so me giving her something is already a big upgrade for her. Am I really asking something for nothing? Guys are worth something too, you know? Girls can be with guys just because they value each other, not because what they give each other.

@flowboy she also told me she likes black boys several times. After couple of times it got on my nerves and I told her to go talk to them if she is so interested in them. The mistake I made is after the first investment I made into her I didn't want to lose my investment. I wonder how Leo does it. He says he never paid anything for girls while going out. Currently I'm not having a lot of options so I don't want to try that but eventually I would like to have that attitude. @Vzdoh the problem is entitlement and wanting something for nothing.

So I pulled the Romanian girl home which I met earlier this week. It was going to be an ice cream date and then we hung out at my place. We smoked some weed and I got in the mood. Started sitting next to her touching her hair and body. She didn't allow me. I think I made the mistake of smoking weed again. From weed I can become very silent and weird. There was just no communication after we smoked weed. I got angry at her and just dropped her off. Creating the right atmosphere is so key for sex to happen. I didn't feel great because of what happened last week. I could have played the game better but I just didn't feel like putting a lot of effort.

Citrine stone is good for healing but the stone is so small that I don't think it will have a big effect. It is really about the placebo effect.

It can have a placebo effect. I wear a yellow stone around my neck. For me it is just a reminder or an anchor.

Do visualization exercises how you get hard and fuck her brains out. Do this daily and in detail. This way you will train your brain. The brain is the trigger and your dick is your gun. Also stop fapping if you do and eat more fish products.

Joe Dispenza's books are great about manifesting what you want. I did his meditations a while back and it really helped to change myself but then I got lazy and stopped with it. You might want to try it out. @Preety_India About getting your heart broken. It is part of the deal. Just don't invest more than the other. Recently my heart was broken and I grew from it. I wouldn't make the same mistakes.

You are making a division between theory/technique and understanding female nature. In my opinion both is needed. Female nature is the map/territory. Theory/technique is about navigating the map/territory. I'm also not saying something new in this thread. There are a lot of books on this subject.

It is a way of being. I can't point to it and say I did this. Since I did that evil thing and acted upon my anger and my instincts something changed in my physiology. It is about integrating the divine masculinity. I'm not kidding. I'm just back from the city and multiple girls were staring at me. Getting a wink from a lady. Two hot girls in a car trying to get my attention. Talked to a girl who got excited by my presence and got her phone number without hassle. As for males. They don't even dare to make eye contact with me. I'm not really looking for fights but I'm trying to integrate my new found internal fire. This all happened after break up with that girl. Something just broke within me. There is no step by step to reach this divine masculinity. It is just a wave that comes and you either dissociate or you harbor it. You can only know the answer to that question by going too far. I'm in this state just a couple of days. I'm not saying divine masculinity is the magic pill. I'm just saying nice guys might benefit by taking the divine masculinity pill.

Yes. Usually I don't know what I want. It is part of lack of experience. Also I always think about not hurting the other I guess but recently I changed my attitude about this. People don't mind hurting me so I do it back. Somebody who uses niceness as a survival strategy. Let's himself be used as a doormat. Doesn't complain, shows no assertiveness and confidence. Especially if I like somebody I become like this to not lose her by walking on egg shells and that frankly results in a boring and colorless personality. That is what I'm doing. I'm playing with these extremes. One really can't find what the boundaries are if one doesn't push towards the edges.

I know a lot of successful guys in their profession but they are not satisfied and it also doesn't translate to being good with girls. It is really about the mindset of dating. Can be poor and still attract girls by help of attitude.

@Preety_India doesn't change that integrating ruthlessness will skyrocket your results in general in the dating market

Since I did that evil thing (see the thread above) I'm KILLING it. I literally got a phone number of a super model looking blonde. Her name is Nadine. Integrating the evil side She lives like 2 hours away but she comes to my city every other month. I was just mesmerized by her but I kept it cool because I integrated my evil side. Girls can sense if you have the ability to kill a mother fucker. I never killed a mother fucker but recently I did something bad. I'm almost incited to do more evil. Why? Girls reward evil. That is why. And especially very hot feminine girls do. The same way Girls can smell neediness they can smell if you have the potential to be dangerous. You don't need to be dangerous or do illegal stuff. It is about the ability, the potential, to become dangerous. Females reward men with killer mindsets I walked passed a woman and man. I think the woman said something about me walking to close to her and she said something disrespectful. I turned around and I said you said what? She instantly went silent and looked down. His man besides him didn't even look me into my eyes. She knew I would fuck him up. I'm definitely not going to push the envelope and get into fights but I'm definitely open to it. I think it will grow me as a person. Me as a former nice guy who is capable can grow the most by setting healthy ego boundaries. I also almost got in a fight in the grocery shop because I accidentally trespassed a guy. He called me out. I didn't even say anything and look him dead in the eyes. He was trembling and couldn't watch me I the eyes and just walked off. Again. One doesn't need to inflict violence. Having the potential for violence to set boundaries is enough. People can sense that off of you. Also this is just a phase for me to develop myself. I'm seeing this as mental gymnastics to train my reptilian brain to be a boss instead of being a whimp. Read Peter Levine's book on trauma and fight and flight to learn about this topic.

Last week I opened a thread about my evil intentions. I'm very ashamed of it but I did something evil. I dated this girl several times and she was holding me on the line, planning dates with me and then canceling it. This happened 3 times in a row, and then she just dumped me without explanation. I was so deeply hurt because we had the same feelings and out of nowhere (after she canceled the date that she planned herself) she just started ghosting me. I asked her to give me at least some explanation of what is happening with her but she simply opened my text, read it, and left it on read. I was so hurt and I did everything in my power to heal myself and heal my heart. I even opened a thread about it on this forum but it wasn't received kindly and it was shut down without me getting help. What I can say is that I did something evil and I won't give details because I don't want to break the rules of this forum by spreading devilry on this forum. It felt like I had no option. She hurt me so I had to hurt her, otherwise the anger would destroy me. I was just awestruck by how a girl just can change feelings for you at a drop of a hat. She told me I was the nicest guy ever (something I hear a lot from girls) and I always get treated like trash by them. So I did that "thing" which I won't speak of. It is really ingenious so I don't want to motivate others to do the same thing. Afterwards it did give me relief in a primitive way. I was not proud of myself! The girl who ghosted me for two weeks, who didn't answer my text, called me; on the phone she was angry and sad. I felt the worst person in the world. My heart was crying from the inside while listening to her. The girl who hurt me so much was in hurt. It was satisfying in a primitive way but I was disgusted with myself. I'm done with being a nice guy and this was like my "ritual" to leave that nice guy behind me and become somebody with a healthy ego. After having done this I can't call myself a "nice guy" anymore. At the same time I'm very confused, sad, angry, and some other emotions. I really need to do some deep heeling. I just wanted to share this story because I feel sick to my stomach. I opened a thread last week before doing it. I spoke with my therapist about it and there was just a force within me that just pushed me to do it. I'm afraid to tell it to my therapist.

If I learned one thing from this thread. Spread love as long as you can spread love and be ruthless as ruthless as you can and want to be. As a man you need the feminine; the ability to love. AND the masculine part which is being ruthless. If you can't show the potential to be ruthless (she will be able to feel this so you don't need to demonstate it) she will be ruthless to you. She won't be sexually attracted and treat you like a bug.

@Preety_India I think you have some regard to male perspective but you still have a lot of deficiencies in your understanding. You are projecting your own behavior onto males. This is where it boils down to. We males don't tell females to change for us. No male on this forum ever told a female to change for a male. YOU females (not you specifically) constantly tell males to change. That is the difference. All the while you don't fully understand male POV.

That is how a middle ground is negotiated. By attack and counter attack. You don't want guys to counter attack and just be a cuck to female interests. That is not how it works. In my opinion he makes valid points. From my own experience as a male I can verify him.

Thanks. Are you referring to absolute love? She is not my girl.I'm not captain save a hoe and I'm not here to save every girl out there. They need to earn that privilege. Leo's video about needy versus non-needy perception helped me to understand what you describe here but I can't help it but be depressed. A broken heart is not easily healed. I'm very bitter how she strung me along for a month, constantly making appointment and cancelling and then just ghosting me not having any regard to my feelings. I have already forgiven her but that doesn't make the pain less. I have a hard time understanding women. They are ruthless, even in this topic they are ruthless towards me. I'm not going to be their doormat any more. They can either accept me or leave me. I think Parththakkar12 is right, if women can smell insecurity they will latch onto that and exploit insecurities. They definitely not want a guy that is insecure. They treat them like crap. I mean it is OK to not like insecure guys but they don't deserve to be treated like dirt. Your arguments are so on point. Especially on insecurities in men. Women are nature. Men are culture. And nature is brutal so I don't blame women but at the same time they act like they are not brutal and that I should stay weak, insecure and shouldn't fight back. Fuck that. I'm going to fight back with tooth and nail. And if a somebody double crosses me or does me wrong I will make that other person pay dearly. I'm actually a very stoic person so people shouldn't be afraid that I will become ruthless. All that I'm saying is that I'm going to integrate the masculine energy with my already dominating feminine energy.

My beloved girl didn't want me because I wasn't dangerous enough. I didn't have enough self love. I'm sure about this fact more than anything. Especially after today's approach streak with my new found manhood. Quickie with a tall brunette Just an amazing brunette girl called Jill. Very friendly and sexy. Instant sexual tension because girls can just sense my potential for danger. It is a huge turn on for feminine girls. We talked like 5 minutes but report was good and she immediately started texting me afterwards. I couldn't really dive deep because she had to go for a vaccination and had a time restraint. She agreed for a coffee but I don't know. We will see if she is up to it. I don't really trust the word of a woman. Warrior archetype Integrating this archetype was so important for me especially because I'm already a feminine, soft and kind person. Interlinking my existing feminine with my new found masculinity really did the trick. The other day, I got Britt's phone number and she told me she might want to meet up with me mid week. This was a really hot girl. And today's girl is also a very hot but brunette girl. Until now I'm really content with my new attitude. Girls just love me. I have to do less work during approaches. I hope this new found masculinity will also get me more respect from girls. That is the most important. I'm done being treated as a second priority. Still very fucked up I was in love with the girl from the topic "I did something evil". And it still feels awful. Sometimes I think about her and my heart just breaks. She was so much interested in me. I don't know what made her lose interests. Even she couldn't explain it but I know it. I'm going to burn that nice guy syndrome out of me or it will be the end of me.

I don't want to become dangerous. I want to have the potential to be dangerous and have selflove.

I'm developing healthy egoism and reinstating my cosmic karma. Girls can just feel I'm a bad guy right now and my approaches are going much better. Girls love men who can incite fear and terror. Even Leo says this. We don't make the rules, we are just players. Nothing personal.

I could actually hear in her voice that she was attracted to my bad behavior but I told to fuck herself. She hurt me too much. I'm not really judging them. I'm trying to understand female nature. I look at them like an anthropologist and I don't take their judging and shaming serious as long as they give good advice (from their limited perspective). What I learned is you really have to do the thing that women don't want to give them what they want. That is the harsh truth. That is the definition of a man: relentless. Thanks. I'm definitely ont going to self-blame or self-shame myself anymore. I got enough of that bullshit. I just got hurt too much to be my nice old self that women in this thread want me to be. Women condition me to be the way I'm by rejecting me, not accepting me as I'm. I would never have crossed the Rubicon if my old self was enough. If I knew where you lived I would try you out. Do border illegal stuff to you to pester you and make your life a hell. Let's see how long you can stay a holy person.

From girls I literally hear "you are such a nice guy" all the time, in the past I was seen as that. I got enough of hearing that. After having read the book no more mister nice guy I decided to be another person. Yes, at this moment I'm not a nice guy... AND I'm proud on that. From now on I'm not going to use niceness as a mask: instead just be authentic. You can call it spiteful and vindictive but that is your interpretation and looking down on me. If you knew me you would be more sympathetic. It is not either/or. I'm working on self-love, Self-love and being a human; standing up for myself. Some people act like they are stoics but if somebody hurts you it is in human nature to hurt that person back. It is only matter of how much the other person has to hurt you before you start lashing back.

Yesterday this happened and it changed me. I become a new person. I feel all the trauma energy left my body. I'm still angry. I'm somebody with a weak ego but after all the pain and suffering a fire sparked in my eyes. Let her do the work I picked up a Romanian girl's phone number. She is meh but it was easy and I just use confidence and let her do the work. Acting versus reacting Also did some other approaches. A lot of was great. Confidence does make a difference. Girls just starts reacting off of me. The thing is if she reacts to me I have to stop reacting off of her and start acting from my self. If that makes sense? Some other insights Using format with pickup is great but use it as a GPS. Only use format when lost. If you watch your GPS all the time you can't see the road in front of you. And what is in front of you trumps what the GPS shows. Use feelings to lead the conversation. That is such a big point. Girls really don't react to logic but to emotion. You can be a total idiot but if your vibe is great she will take the latter. Actually try this: just try to act as a total idiot with no brains but... this is important...be fun. Girls will love you for that. What ever you be don't be logical, boring, unemotional, stoic.