WHO IS

The difference is imaginary, yes. But if all is imagination then imagination is all there IS. Which means that imagination is very real. It is imagination that dictates the how and the rules of reality/things. So there is a imagined difference between "how would this experience differ from dying physically and not by taking 5-meo-dmt" And can you answer what the imagined difference would be? I could answer the question "what's the difference between a car and an airplane, even though the difference is imagined, which makes sense because reality is a product of God's imagination.

Allegedly, the famous Jesus of Nazareth healed people by the power of God, but why though? Weren't their illness an expression of God's infinite love? That would mean that Jesus was robbing those people from Gods love. And those doctors and nurses saving people from coronavirus must be also rubbing them off, from Gods love. What are these people doing?! Let the people be ill, let them feel Gods love. (sarcasm) Am I misunderstanding somethings?

Is that what You mean that when you take 5-meo-dmt you die and you experience this truth? But how would this experience differ from dying physically and not by taking 5-meo-dmt? (Ofc, I see my question is kinda stupid/naive, because You did have experience with 5-meo-dmt, but not with physical death)

So when we all cease to exist/die, we will all realize that it was "I" all along? And there was no one other than "I"?

I see. So the oneness is that there is only One Being in reality and reality is imagined by this Being (I). If You ask Me, I can sense that I am the only Being, because all the others are outside of Me. So do I conclude that I am this Being?

But how would You say, what You are saying in recent times, differs from the "oneness" which is promoted by other gurus, teachers etc? They too say "ALL is One", but I am sensing that You are trying to explain something more radical.

So Reality=Being, and there is only One Being, and thats God. So there is only one "I"? So : God = I = Reality

It doesn't change the fact that I am feeling bad when I am ill. God must know that I feel bad when I am ill. And yet it gives illness, so that would mean that God knows that I feel bad when I am ill and still gives me illness. Is that a loving thing to do? From my POV, it is not, and my POV is the only thing that exist from POV. Every being, person, Gods, other imagined aspects are outside of me and might very well be all imagined by me. So even if everyone were well, but I was suffering from pain, it wouldnt help me a bit.

Leo, when you say One is being selfish when one wants to be healthy and not have an illness. But what's wrong about this selfishness? There is nothing wrong with wanting to being healthy. If everyone were dying of cancer, there would be no humans on earth, for God to "play" with. If the actualized.org forum was not "healthy" and working properly, we wouldnt be able to have a conversation in the first place. So we can see that when things work properly - are healthy, it is better.

So God is like that Child who has a lot of toys around it and it tosses them, breaks them, builds them, does whatever it like with them to have fun? But if the "I" is God, then that would mean that the "toys" are God simultaneously, so God is playing with himself? And that would mean that God in a way is a masochist, if to rely on this particular thinking/logic?

Yes ofc. The question is why would The-I /God, give the human-me illness right before adulthood, when one could enjoy his life, but now is spending his money/time/effort trying to get healthy. I'll give you an allegory, you have a boat without any holes, the entire sea is an adventure for you awaiting, but now your boat has holes, and instead of exploring the sea and having fun you are now constantly trying to patch the holes of the boat to make it whole/healthy again. It kinda breaks the point of being in the middle of the sea in the boat, in the first place, hehe.

Leo but why would God (I) give illness to the human-me? If the illness only lowers my life quality. It seems a bit cold/sadistic. You said Yourself, that You have thyroid issues, then ofc the obvious question would be, why would You-The I (God), give Leo thyroid issues, which is something that is not fun at all, and just gives suffering to those that have it.

Very interesting... , So the "now" moment is all there "IS" then, what happens when the "human" that people call Leo "dies"? It is/will be something that God will imagine also isn't it ? Then how it would "look" like form your POV, if I may ask? I mean, the process of God imagining Human-Leo to die. Also when lets I or You (Leo), get an illness out of nowhere, and I don't even know what the illness is and I don't want to have it, is it me who gave me this illness? Because, I have health issues that I 100% do not want to have, but yet I still have it. Why would I imagine and give this illness to myself? Seems not productive/sane.

Leo, welcome back . I have to ask You something to clarify this for Myself. You say there are no past lives and one was never born that it is all imagined up in the "now" moment like a background-origin script/story. Which means that this life is all there is? I mean, we have to ask if there were no past lives, does that mean that before "Leo" life-time You never existed prior to Leo being imagined by God? This is all very exciting and fresh perspectives/knowledge, I have to say.

So nothing matters and when the body dies the self ceases to exist, forever deleted so to speak? Is this what You wanted to convey?

Why do spirituality teachers grow beards? Is that connected to the importance of looking a certain way for certain things? Also, wouldn't that mean the certain looks of certain people, limit the amount of life-paths/doors one can walk through? The way one looks like play a great portion of what others perceive the person to be, one could even say that the certain way someone looks like, the other people expect the person to be/behave a certain way. Even if you are in reality 17, but you look like you are 70+, people would expect you to behave like a mature/old man because of the way you look and vice-versa. There are many examples of how the way one looks, limits ones interaction possibilities in reality, like in a multiplayer game, certain skins/costumes give certain advantages/disadvantages. IM NOT DISCUSSING ATTRACTION AND ETC,! IN THIS THREAD IM DISCUSSING LOOKS, IN THE WAY OF IT SHAPING YOUR CHARACTER IN THIS "MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER" GAME WE CALL LIFE.

Would it be cold-hearted to tell my friend who is constantly in suffering due to chronic bone pain, that God is Love? In one of my spiritual trips, I too got the message that God is love and reality is created out Love. However, yet whenever I interact with my friend who ca- 5 years ago developed chronic bone/skeletal pain, whenever I speak with and I see the suffering in her eyes, how tired she actually is of it, day in day out, I just cant tell her that according to my direct experience God and universe/reality is Love. How could her situation even be so? Yes, one of my direct expiring form a psychedelic showed my that God and reality is Love but on the other hand, my direct experience with my friend shows me an overall good-hearted individual who is very tired of constantly feeling pain in her bones, and it seems like it will be so until her physical death. This really makes me think, and I have to understand how could a universe made of Love let such a thing happen and keep happening to her. This literal pain, does not benefit her whatsoever, it only destroyed her life up until now, and keeps destroying it. I really wish it was not so.

But I wouldt give pain to someone whom I Love, at least not consciously, then why God/Universe the ultimate source does it? Either God/Source/Universe does it because it is unconscious of it, or it is indeed conscious of it and still doesnt take it away from her, then one could ask to what extent is it truly loving towards her, in her individual case.

Arent I, who is, in general, a person with a healthy body, telling her that God is love and just be happy and enjoy existing, sound sarcastic because due to the nature of the situation I'm in a privileged position compared to hers?

You, don't forget a crucial thing, people ARE different, its not surprising that if someone likes to make people laugh others might not enjoy that. And it might most probably be a false generalization to assume that ALL enlightened people are a certain way and non-enlightened people are a certain way.

While making such remark, you are trying to say that one thing is better than the other, when in fact both things are a creation of God and are both his "children", and it is like asking which of your child is your favorite. I think You too said in one of your recent videos, that for God gold is not more valuable than shit and etc, however, You are assuming here that a dancing monkey is something that should be used a comparison to God in a derogatory sense when in fact it is another aspect of God, if God didn't even imagine a possibility of a dancing monkey existing, it wouldn't even exist, but because it exists we can conclude that it is too a part of God.

Leo, God says that everything is relative and yet God also says that God won't go down and be mucking around in the mud with unenlightened people and their friends. But if everything is relative, and as God said the difference between a unicorn and a cheeseburger is relative, then why God has no will of going down to the mud with unenlightened people and their friends and God wants them to go up to God? If everything is relative God should not have problem of expecting people to be there in the mud with them mocking around, however, it is, of course, true if everything is relative. If God says don't expect me to be there with you in the mud all the time then everything is not relative. And God makes a distinction between up and down, mud and something being better than being in the mud. I'm sincerely and humbly here to learn what truth is, however, because I respect truth, I have to ask this question because for now, it seems that it is inconsistent.

As much as people hate suffering/hardships, it is in suffering/hardships one grows the best as a person. When one lives in "happy-times" at all times, one doesn't grow as a person as much as one does in hardships. Maybe pleasure its not the friend and pain is not the enemy...

I gave you arguments and you are just saying "do actual work", when in fact you don't know if I did or did not. I did and I experienced, but the individual experience is not always the truth, even if at the moment of experience it feels very true. People with schizophrenia have experiences that are very real to them but would you accept their experience as real-truth because he/she experienced in first hand? What is the point of writing here to each other if one party gives arguments and the other party just says "do work" when they have nothing to answer to the argument because if they had answers they would answer it because others who read this conversation see that the person refrained from answering to the questions when the other party was engaging in a conversation and taking things said seriously and gave genuine response and further elaborative questions? When people have experiences and accept everything that they experience in the experience as real-truth, we might have a problem here. Because experiences might be deceiving. Not everything that is experienced equals of it being a true representation of truth. One stops learning when one is sure of that one already knows what's true and what's not, what am I doing is staying open-minded and questioning, even direct-experience.

It is for sure a disadvantage because then we won't be able to communicate. Now with the thinking you present, you could say but this is because we compare to someonewho has an advantage, but You don't need to compare to someone else, because it will be our quality of lives decreasing from our own starting-point, which included the visual and audio sensory input into our minds. However, the general problem with such thinking is that if we to think this way, it will eventually boil down to the final question "why do anything?". Which shows the self-defeating narrative of this kind of thinking. Because if duality is an illusion, then there is no subject/person and an object/the world around, then why do anything? But I guess you are still alive because you are able to have this conversation on the forum, then it means you are still not forgetting to eat and drink water. Which shows that you are not really fully believing in your own thinking. In other words, you are still doing an action, such as drinking water at least, which shows that you are still differentiating between subject v object, a mouth, and water, to make an action you need to differentiate between a subject and an object. I wonder why? Maybe because you still think that maybe this kind of thinking is not the representative of the true picture?