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@tsuki interesting way of looking at it

Could you point it out to me im not quite sure i see it fully.

True man true but even though thats true im still unconscious of it aren't i? And if thats the case, how can i become conscious of it?

@Truth Addict Ok i see, so if i were to do what i want right now, id go experience the highest truth however i could because i want to and its the thing that matters the most to me. Now the question is of how?

@Truth Addict ?i like this answer, if i did this id just go gain insights from psychedelics. I could probably get lsd quickly and 5meo in time, but i probably would need to be really careful with 5meo. Maybe id just micro-dose since i have no experience with it.

@tsuki i edited the post to be more accurate, i would want to find the sweetspot dose that would give me the highest experience, where if i did more than the sweetspot my experience would go downward. Thats what id do in the face of imminent death. im not sure i see what youre saying though after digesting your post, so do you mean in a sort of trust fall action where i go with whatever happens, and have almost a “faith” that whatever im doing is purposeful for my growth, and have little forceful involvement with the process?

@Chumbimba whats the proper way to do this? Do i simply not masturbate and ill feel the energy or is there more to it?

Throughout my years i continue to hear the same spiel saying i should go to college, but im just not sure that its necessary for where i want to take my life. Im a senior in highschool and about to graduate. I want to become a guru or sage of some variety and i want to spend as much time as possible training myself to get to that level. Its the only thing that interests me enough to make my life's work. I think that college may take away from the time i could have to spend on becoming a guru; and i dont want a high end job either, id much rather live a simple life where truth is my main pursuit. With that said though i understand i still have to support myself somehow. My plan long term is to begin my own practice once ive reached a certain level of self mastery, but until then i need to keep diving deeper into this realm. I know there exist monasteries that will house you for free if you are willing to do work and upkeep, but how might i go about finding one? In my online research i find monasteries but they ask for money to be housed. Is the option of living at a place without a money cost even sustainable? If not, is it better i get a job of some sort? If i could pull it off, id like to see what its like to live with limited possessions and responsibility so i can spend most of my time pursuing truth & sagery. But im not quite sure thats possible today and i may be limiting myself more than advancing myself. Then again, i would say i could get to sagery quicker and perhaps better if i were to say leave everything behind and learn zen or another tradition in a monastery away from modern life. So give me your thoughts; is it possible to pursue my interest full time and get away from the modern life of “wage slavery” to live a life of truth and self mastery, or will i have to settle for a middle ground and basically half ass both paths.

@DivineSoda i love the asia idea, excites me just thinking about it. College just doesnt seem like the route i want to take.

@Ibn Sina interesting take, if i can find a monastery thatd provide my survival needs in order to meditate then i could stay there for a while. After a year or perhaps more i could come back having changed profoundly then get a job and find a way to make money; hopefully i could use some means of passive income to grow my finances because thatd allow me to make money while being away. If i successfully get to a certain point with passive income through most likley dropshipping then i can have good means to pursue sagehood full time and spend multiple years on it until i can open my own practice.

@Hellspeed i like your poetry and way of words, they express the emotion you feel inside. But how can i go about attaining this state of ferocity?

@CreamCat if were talking jobs id like to have my own meditative practice like one shinzen young has if you look him up, but in order to get to the point i can reliably own one, i need a certain amount of training. College will help me basically not at all with that, i would say. At least it wont help enough to the extent where its a better option than learning the knowledge id get from college on my own.

@Shadowraix in a sense this path is relatively new for me, but since the day i discovered it day in and day out id be thinking of things i could do with my life and absolutely none of them speaks to me as much as this path. Since i can remember the most important things in my life have been truth and friends. If i were to not go down this path, i would feel a massive sense of missed growth. I feel that modern life has very little for me to benefit from with how i am right now. I want to get myself to the best possible version of myself as soon as i can, so that i can pursue other things in an amazing way. If i dont do this, ill continue to half ass everything i do. With that said though ill gladly continue to ponder other paths i could take, and consider what they have to offer.

@GreenWoods i used to have some debates with parents, but nowadays its subsided into my mother just imploring me to go to college. She so damn convinced its the only way ill survive, its a shame. But its out of love i guess so whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯. I would like to do psychedelics to advance my meditation but you might be right saying traditional monasteries wont allow for it. Maybe theres a good reason and its not just a dogmatically held belief, i dunno i sure hope so haha . im thinking maybe i spend a couple years at the monastery gaining experience without psychedelics, then come back home and work a job and on dropshipping with my newly equipped skills and wisdom, then find my own path with psychs for a little (if it would help me advance), then perhaps spend a longer period of time away at a monastery then onto sagehood. I think its a pretty solid plan but my parents will be surely displeased with my decision . Oh well not that i really care that much .

How did you get to that point? Did it happen naturally or did you do something specific to get to that point? I would like to know how i could cut my sleep quota to that little

@CreamCat i want to live relatively simply so im really not sure i would need a degree just to survive. I dont have much interest in academic pursuits or any of the paths that are opened with a degree. I did well in school but its just not my interest at all. See my recent post by the way!

@GreenWoods Im 18 and i wouldnt mind straight up going to japan and finding a monastery there without prior knowledge of one, but id definitely need extra money to live off till i find one. Im committed to this enough to the point where basically the only thing i think about all day is self mastery and enlightenment, that is, when i AM thinking and not doing something else while fully engaged. I want this bad enough that id spend decades in a monastery if i had to; ive been like this ever since i found out about this path a year or two ago. Youre right saying being a full time monk isnt the only way to do it, but i feel like its the way id prefer to go about it as i think itd bring me the most benefit. With how i am right now, if i didn't pursue self mastery full time (or at least for a long while), id feel unaccomplished and unfulfilled like i missed out. The way i see it theres a whole lot of confusion to be had in the modern life which would likely distract me or hold me back without giving me much growth. But yeah maybe staying at a monastery for decades is not the most efficient way of raising my consciousness. Maybe itd be better to live a mix of both somehow. The only issue with that is i want to spend nearly 90 to 100 percent of my time with this stuff, which would be hard with a job and financial responsibilities. So in that case perhaps its better to be a monk full time. Ideally for me the way i see it now, id spend a long time in a monastery where id be allowed to find and take psychedelics (im not sure many would allow for that or how id even get them though), spend basically all of my time meditating and getting a deep understanding of myself and body and a few times maybe once a month or less id have a chat with my friends to keep up. Then after years of experience find a way to start my own practice, or before that go to an already established practice like the isha foundation and volunteer there to get ideas for how things work. With that knowledge then maybe i can help a different scope of people on my own (or maybe ill end up staying there for longer than expected). One additional idea ive had is maybe ill get a job this summer to pay for the flight then start drop-shipping if you know what that is, and if it takes off ill have passive income fueling my bank account so i can pursue being a monk full time and have spare money in the bank to spend on psychedelics for growth. Seems like the most fiscally viable option, but im still not sure how quickly i can get drop-shipping going to where im making profit. Im very ambitious to start this path right now and that may take some time to build up. I mentioned before i took an acceptance to a college as a safety net but i really dont see myself going there, i only need enough money to survive and not much more. If its possible to live simply without a college degree i would easily do that, maybe drop-shipping would fuel that idea. How old are you by the way? I like your life plan im definitely gonna take inspiration from that, gimme your thoughts on mine too.

@GreenWoods great words man, thank you! Ill definitely explore asian monasteries but should i just look through the internet, or will that be too limiting in scope? If itd be too limiting where else can i look? I really like the option of staying at a monastery for a decade or more to become a guru without delay, so i think i will do that. One thing that may hold me up is i’d have to fly over to asia still, and i dont have the funds on my own to pay for it, and my parents are quite apprehensive about what i want to do, but they still love me so i think theyd be willing to pay for the flight with some convincing. If not i guess id just have to get a job for a bit but i took an acceptance to a college just as a saftey net and the start date of that is in early September so id have to start the job really damn soon if its required i have to pay for it. Also i talk to my friends very frequently so i wonder if id be able to keep up with them at all over in asia, it may be a bummer if i cant but ill do whats necessary i suppose; i can always find them again later.