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I think it's just baked into my belief system. I was contemplating what if I never thought homosexuality was bad, and I could see the hollowness of the view. I'm still conflicted, part of me loves woman and wants a wife and monogamy, so I'm not sure what collapsing the homosexual judgment will do. I think pedophilia is bad too, but that's just another projection too, not sure what it'll look like when I collapse that judgment either

It's based on one's own assessment of what's good and bad. Anything you judge as bad is misperception, and if you looked you could see that there is always positive in the negative, and negative in the positive. In my view homosexuality and rape are both bad, but I can learn to see the good in both homosexuality and rape. Really ask yourself if god doesn't love those things. Why would they exist if they were not in alignment with god.

Everything in life has a purpose. I'll give an example from the seminar. He gave a story of a man who was kidnapped and forced to pay a ransom of 10 million dollars. You would think this would be traumatizing. But because of the kidnapping, the guy was allowed to finally take a break from his company and spend more time to save his marriage. After doing the method from the seminar the guy could see that the kidnapping was essential in saving his marriage, etc so he was thankful. Everything that happens to us is happening for a reason, and its always in balance. For example, I was really triggered by my brother telling me what to do and asserting authority over me. But after going through this process I saw how my brothers behavior was actually humbling, and there was this upside to his behavior that I was completely unconscious too

WOW. I just had another huge breakthrough. I can use the demartini method to resolve my judgments on reality. Homosexuality, incest, pedophilia, rape, murder, etc. Everything. The darker the better. Anything I judge. I have to see the positive side and benefit of all those things. God loves rape and incest too. Haha this must sound insane to people. But this is how you heal. And how you become the greatest version of your self. You will be immortal. Because you will have accepted ever part of mortality and been grateful for it.

@Zeroguy It was really good man. Dr Demartini is so authentic and inspiring to listen to, it's really incredible to see his passion for teaching and sharing his insights. I feel a new inspiration on my path from these 2 days. He has a method for resolving any perception of resentment or infatuation that I think is genius. Basically if you have anyone in your life who you resent or judge you can use this method to dissolve the emotional charge for that person. If you're curious, I really think you should read his book the Break Through experience, he has the method and some background about himself in the book. If the book resonates I would say attend his 2 day seminar at some point. It's pretty expensive, 1400 USD, but there's so much wisdom and value I think you would feel you got your money's worth. My biggest take away's: 1. Morality is bull shit. There are no right and wrong actions. You can resolve any emotions of guilt or shame around any actions by seeing the hidden order behind the actions. It's really amazing to see him walk you through this. There are always upsides and downsides to every action, when you are guilty or shameful you just are not percieving how you actually benefited the person. It's an issue of misperception. 2. Our lives are perfectly balanced. Everything that happens to us is part of a higher order. Most of us are just blind to the divine order of what's happening. The truth of who we are is unconditional love, and so if you are percieving the world in a way that is out of alignment with pure gratitude and love, it's a sign you have a fault perception. 3. I got more insight into my own headaches and suffering. At this point I am almost certain my issue is I have demonized and judged my own sexuality. I think everyone is a pedophile, homosexual, pansexual, etc. We all have these capacities, but according to my own beliefs I think these things are wrong. So I have an internal judgment against my own sexuality, and this is crippling my energy. I don't expect that I'll actually be having sex with men or children etc, but the core belief and my perception of sexuality are crippling me. 4. He talked about the bull shit of victim mentality, and the delusions of religion, politics, theology, psychology and other institutions. You see it on this forum, people are politically delusional and are caught in 1 sided thinking, you see it in the dating section with the rape thread. Dr Demartini isn't about anything of that bull shit, he's on another level. The guy is a visionary. He's not wasting his time demonizing people or political groups, he's not protecting people's feelings and labeling them victims. He was raw to the point of offending people in the seminar and it was inspiring to watch. 5. He has an awesome exercise about listing the people you admire most in 7 key domains in life, and then seeing how the traits you admire you actually possess your self. This one was gold. He talked about how we can't see people as above us because it limits us, and even the people we admire and think are way above us, we actually have all those traits we just need to ask the right questions and inspect those people and traits to see that they are identical to us. I think it could be incredibly empowering to realize that you have the exact same traits as the people you idolize most. He gave stories about how he's worked with people who were kidnapped, raped, etc and they could resolve their misperception and see only gratitude for what happened. There was a woman who was raped by 100 men and ultimately she could see that the experience served her, and she could honestly say thank you for the experience. He gave another experience of a guy who was kidnapped and randsomed for 10 million dollars, who ended up being grateful for the kidnapping because of all the ways his life changed after the kidnapping. That's real healing man. Not this shit we see on the forums. The downside is I got a bit of culty vibes from the overall presentation but it's still worth it imo. He is a brilliant man and I am so lucky I had the honor to listen to him for hours, and I even got a few questions answered. I'm going to be dong more of seminars in the future so I'll report back with more stuff. And i'm going to keep his system to resolve my judgments and infatuations so I'm not stuck being a moral hypocrite and suffering unnecessarily from perceptual issues.

Suffering is caused by misperceptions. Correct your perception and you will address your suffering

Wow I just had a break through from the seminar. Everything that happens in life is an expression of love. Anything that triggers us is a misperception, whatever it is is actually love and serving us, but we have a misperception. Incredible.

T-minus 1 hour until the breakthrough experience! I'm so excited. I'm probably going to be tired but I gotta power through today. This could be HUGE for my path. Omg. So excited omg. This guy might be a charlatan and maybe i'll be bitterly disappointed... but even if that's the case so be it. So much potential omg. I will report back after day 1. It's going to 12 hours on Saturday and Sunday. Pretty intense, but I'm ready. https://drdemartini.com/breakthrough-experience/

@eggopm3 I'm not advocating for praying the gay away. I'm just expressing the truth in the face of delusional takes about sexuality and what it means to live healthy lives. Most people aren't going to realize there's more to life then chasing status and money. But if you ask me is that kind of lifestyle in alignment with the greatest version of ourselves, I'll say no.

Leo should create a ban feature for the dating section too. And then ban everyone on the forum, because no one here understands healthy relationships lol

@Carl-Richard Yeah I don't see how this lasts. It's one thing to ban people from certain parts of the forum. It's a completely different thing to make them wear that decision on their username like a dunce cap

Marshal Massena: "He came alive when surrounded by danger... When defeated, he was always ready to begin again as if he was in fact the victor."- Napoleon

I've always wondered where are the gay and transgender Christ's in society. I think most people are spirituality/emotionally unhealthy, and a culture that presents that identifying as transgender as a completely normal and healthy expression is just a byproduct of this unhealthiness. If someone can show me a gay or transgender Buddha or Christ I would probably change my view.

I don't feel sorry for them because I'm almost certain that your view isn't true.

My point is it can be transcended, not that the urges do not exist. There's a lesson in ACIM (A course in miracles) that states "there is nothing my holiness cannot do". I would feel sad for a pedophile who held your view about their sexual orientation.

Attraction can be influenced by culture, conditioning, etc imo. Pedophiles are a good example. I believe pedophiles can transcend their sexual attraction to children. But i guess you are assuming it's primarily biology and they are stuck with that trait?

For me gender is part of attraction. The way a woman acts, dresses, etc is part of it. But idk if you are counting those traits as gender. I'm talking about the practicality. Is it unreasonable to assume that transwomen feel discriminated against given the preferences of the vast majority of men

Don't you think that's unfair and discriminatory towards trans females. 99.9% of men will use that as a justification for their preference. And doesn't this fly in the face of the left wing position that transwomen are real women? If trans women are real women, then men discriminating against them in dating for whatever reason is due to some kind of unjust bias, and the solution is address that systemic unjust preference right?

I was talking about the preferences men have for biological females in general. I'm not disagreeing with you, I was just expressing the devil's advocate position. Fyi, love reading your posts. Your sense of humor is hilarious

Yeah but the devil's advocate position would be where do your preferences come from? If you have a preference for biological females then it can be argued that comes from a bigoted and discriminatory heteronormative culture that discriminates against minority groups like trans people. I think the honest left wing position would be that if you are not attracted to transwomen then you are unconsciously or consciously bigoted and discriminatory towards trans people.

The thing is this guy can genuinely feel something for you, and so from his pov he may be acting genuine in expressing interest, but that doesn't mean his feelings won't change on a dime after sex, after a date etc. I think if you were in the right place in your life and this situation arose you could have some confidence that it will turn out in a way you are happy with, but if there is doubt then you may be walking into a world of hurt. Good luck and tread carefully (:

@somegirl Anything's possible, but my guess is this guy will stoke your emotions and make you believe there is genuine attraction and chemistry to have sex with you, and then he will move on. I think you can find what you seek in a partner, but be weary that you are in the right place emotionally/mentally/spiritually to attract the man you seek

I'm doing his seminar this weekend. I'm really excited. It's two days of 10 hours per day of working his process. It's about balancing the emotional charges that cloud our perceptions to bring us to a place of unconditional love and gratitude.

@Muhammad Jawad You can practice saintly qualities without being enlightened. If you have the opportunity give selflessly to the people around you then do what you can to benefit them and make their lives easier. I remember hearing something that Ram Das said that encapsulates the idea well. I'm paraphrasing: "Ram Dass asked his guru what is my path to enlightenment... he said always be at the service of others"

@Judy2 Thank you, you too