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Deida says the opposite though! He says that the Masculine in the Absolute sense is Consciousness which is stoically present with the Feminine, which is all form. It's the Feminine which is coming at the Masculine in ever-changing ways!! I didn't quite get this, cuz from what I know, masculine energy is forward-moving energy and femininity is receptive as you're saying. What do you think he means when he says this?

There's another book on masculinity that I really like! It's 'King, Warrior, Magician, Lover' by Douglas Gillette. Yeah! This happens even when someone describes femininity. My internal feminine aspects don't necessarily go emotionally crazy! In fact, if that reflected in a relationship, that would scare me. I'm in the process of releasing resistance to it though.

It's more energetic for me. It's a forward-moving, containing energy that's all about progress. Teachers of Divine Masculinity always seem to portray the feminine as not really caring about the masculine, and that the masculine shouldn't really need the feminine to be on his side, and that he should always be independent and never be weak, etc.

It feels like someone forcing an external standard.

One of my problems with the education system is that most of your schoolwork is done by yourself, for your own grades. There's very little collaboration between students. This came up for me as I was doing some shadow work and I came across the belief 'I have to work alone to make my dreams come true'. Our education system foments this belief pretty firmly! Ideas on solutions to this problem in the system?

There's a lot of spiritual folks talking about various 'system collapses' that'll happen in the next few years. There's vague talk along the lines of WW3 potentially happening, economy crashes, etc. There's also vague talk about our beloved Donald Trump being at the center of the collapse! Can someone who's really tapped into the collective consciousness elaborate more on what you think will happen, why and what this really means? I've heard people are actually preparing for a system collapse by going off-grid, or something drastic along those lines!

@Leo Gura I'm not sure which one tbh. Some say democracy, some say economic systems. Some say there's a (cold or hot) civil war brewing in America between the left and the right. Some say America is headed towards being a dictatorship, because of corporate lobbying and disconnection between government and people. Some say there's gonna be a civil war between the 1% and the common people. These people, by my judgement, are SD Stage Green and above. Vibrationally it feels pretty tense. The unsustainability of unconscious systems can be felt. Conscious people say that in order for people to desire connection (and muster the courage to go on the Hero's journey), they're gonna have to experience more and more separation first! Their comfort zones will feel worse and worse. This will be seen individually, collectively, systemically, etc. I'm trying to figure out what to make of this, i.e. what they mean when they say this. I'm kinda considering it seriously as some of the really conscious people did predict Trump's presidency before the election! I don't take talk about 'the end of mankind' too seriously as most people talking about it are conspiracy theorists, i.e. not very conscious people. I've only heard vague (but serious) talk and I myself am looking for more elaboration on this!

I'm talking about a system collapse, not the end of mankind! It could be useful to know what will collapse, so we know what we want to rebuild in it's place. We can rebuild something a lot more conscious than what we currently have!

The most general and prevalent one! Mine was the Indian education system, but it's similar in America/Canada as far as I can tell. Aren't all of them similar? (Of course you can come up with an exception, but you know what I'm talking about)

There's aspects of you that hold on to certain beliefs (especially the limiting ones) for dear life cuz they're identified with the beliefs! Your beliefs define you. In the mind of certain aspects of you, letting go of those beliefs equates to death! Yupp! The core beliefs reinforce the surface level ones. Internal questioning, self-enquiry, Parts-work, shadow work, etc. are all practices designed to uproot beliefs and change them. It's the ability to hold/consider 2 opposing beliefs in your mind without picking a side, i.e. identifying with either one. That creates cognitive dissonance. Being present with cognitive dissonance and holding opposing beliefs as 2 sides of the same coin is a develop-able ability!

This is why I'm so allergic to Indian 'gurus' in general! 'Guru' is a Hindu term that means 'teacher/master'. Their teachings are mostly based on Hinduism. Therefore, by extension, their teachings will have a lot of Hindu biases and dogmatism! I generally prefer not to listen to Hindu sages/yogis/mystics because I want to avoid separating the wheat from the chaff, which is a tiring task in any religious teaching! I prefer New-agers/philosophers like Leo.

Correct me if I'm wrong : Is Stage Green too triggered to accept that people have their judgements and biases? Why is that such a big deal? It's not a rhetorical question, I genuinely want to know your reasons for it being a big deal to you.

I see mainstream society make a moral case against victim-mentality. Typical attitudes include 'pathetic, weakling, irresponsible, whiny little bitch-babies, dangerous'. Why is that? What collective shadows is society running away from by having these attitudes towards it?

@purerogue Just for clarification : Are you serious or trolling?

@Matt8800 I'm just saying we need this. What's unrealistic/impractical today will become realistic/practical tomorrow!

@Matt8800 A lot of mastering your emotions involves healing from childhood traumas. We have inner child aspects that get emotionally triggered and defensive in response to certain traumatizing stimuli. A 'safe space' would be useful to help each other work through these extreme, unpleasant emotional reactions. Now, when you're working through that, the last thing you want is for someone to say/do something that is unintentionally re-traumatizing! This is such a huge issue that a lot of people are too scared to be vulnerable outside therapist's offices. The safe space would give you freedom around whom you want to trust, how vulnerable you want to be, etc. Not everyone is capable in participating in the healing of specific people, and the safe space would help discern that. Treating each other with kindness is nice, but not quite enough. We collectively need to help each other heal and dare I say, heal each other. This needs to become a lot more mainstream than doing it in a therapist's office!

I understand what you're saying. Getting triggered by 'micro-aggressions' is a personal problem and the resolution to that would be to master your emotions. A lot of our emotional issues have to do with lack of connection with each other. This means that we need each other's help to master our emotions because the human nervous system equates being alone with death! These emotional issues can be traced back to childhood traumas. Would we need safe-spaces for doing this emotional mastery? I think so. Are the safe-spaces today designed for emotional mastery? Probably not. The thing is, these are the most progressive people we have. The rest of us haven't recognized emotional issues to be real issues!

If you're a conscious person, I highly recommend channeling!! It can be exceptionally useful to channel the collective consciousness of various organizations, big corporations, cultural phenomena, etc. Even Parts Work can be useful, for example, talking to the part of You that is the Tax system and passing tax regulations accordingly, etc. Leo's episode on Collective Ego is a must-must-watch for conscious politicians!

@Matt8800 There's a difference between validating how someone feels and enabling their victimhood! The former is a human emotional need. Denying yourself a need will make you go for it in subconscious and manipulative ways (as we all see on social media). Needing other people is 'weakness' if you're scared of them! Spirituality doesn't mean you stop needing people as a human being. The human body will work the way it works, however 'spiritual' you become. Getting what you want (whatever that may be) is a good thing for spiritual evolution! Enlightenment comes only after you see that it didn't make you happy/it didn't take away your suffering. Denying yourself what you want, on the other hand, is unnatural and counter-productive. It's basically denying the reality of what you want, which is anti-spiritual.

Leo I'd like to hear your thoughts on the movie 'Fight Club' and how it relates to our current Western society. It makes some good points about what happens when a society as a whole doesn't have a 'life purpose' of sorts! It kinda challenges the materialist paradigm and tries to make a anti-materialism case seem plausible.

Interesting take. Why do you think Trump would participate in this?

@Serotoninluv But now I'm not progressive anymore. I'm a sexist male pig, remember?! Just kidding!! I had to make a troll post or two to ease the tension of the thread. On a serious note, nice work! We're pretty pretty far from gender fairness and we will plod along.... slowly but steadily.... I'm lost in thought again...

To all the non-feminists here, it's okay to be a 'sexist male pig who's lesser conscious'! I'm integrating my inner 'sexist male pig' and I invite you to do the same. It doesn't make you a bad person objectively speaking (there is no objective bad), in fact it's self-loving and self-accepting to do so. Being a feminist doesn't make you a better person, in fact there is no absolute good/bad in the context of people! Maybe it's more conscious (or woke), but we don't control how conscious we are now, do we? Being more conscious also doesn't make you a better person.

Turns out Trump had said this in November 2011!!

If and when AI does develop an ego, it will learn to treat us the way we treat each other, animals and technology. The key to maximizing the good potential and minimizing the bad potential of AI would be more consciousness!