Synchronicity

@Serotoninluv That’s what I’ve been pointing out this whole discussion. But you haven’t even considered one way in which Conservatives could be seen as equals

@Serotoninluv So, in your opinion, are liberals objectively higher conscious?

@Serotoninluv Yes that is true that SD is defined that way. Let me rephrase that differently Don’t be so quick to consider self-restraint an objectively lower-conscious quality I’m saying that Conservatives are higher-conscious in other areas that the SD scale doesn’t measure The SD scale isn’t the only way to measure consciousness

@Serotoninluv Consider that self-restraint can be seen as a form of consciousness. It frees one from egotistical needs Don’t be so quick to push it down to stage blue

@Leo Gura But you’ve only studied it from the perspective of relativity. Mental toughness is another way to measure levels of consciousness and Conservatives tend to excel at that more than Liberals Conservatives are usually less reactive when they don’ get what they want. This is demonstration of a more unconditional thought process

Yes, that’s what I’m saying. There’s additional ways to measure consciousness levels

@Leo Gura I’m not saying Conservatives are more advanced at relativity. If you read my previous posts, I say that Liberals are more advanced in that area. I’m saying Conservatives are more advanced in other areas that I’ve listed... And ultimately the strong points can balance out

@Serotoninluv You say that the SD scale is relative (which I agree with) but then you compare the judging criteria to two marathon runners... This makes it sound like you’re trying to say one is objectively lower-conscious than the other though...

@Serotoninluv Yes I agree that Liberals understand Relativism more than Conservatives. However, there’s stuff that Conservatives are more adept at. Most conservatives, at least the ones I’ve seen) are generally more well-mannered. That is, they present their points in a more calm and logical tone Secondly, I’ve seen more conservatives willing to be friends with Liberals than vice versa. That is, they’re more ready to agree to disagree (this is a form of understanding relativity, albeit not as expansive as the Liberals have it) Third example, when Liberals don’t like something (like guns) they tend to want to outlaw them and not let anybody own one. Now I don’t want a gun, but I certainly wouldn’t tell my neighbor what they could or couldn’t own... That’s very selfish and contracted But again, there’s a lot of strong points to the Left. However, you seem unaware of many of the strong points of the Right. I see no larger an amount of strong points on the Left than I do on the right (There’s more than the 3 examples I listed) If you’re trying to convince me to favor the Left over the Right, well then... I’m sorry. Not everyone needs your perspective and you certainly don’t need to agree with mine

@Dylan Page That is my serious answer. God is infinite. Infinity is beginningless. To be beginningless is to be Causeless. To have no cause is to have no reason for doing what you do

@Dylan Page the simple answer is that God just wanted to Lol God does what God desires

If you’re asking about scientific proof, really all society has at the moment is past-life regression hypnosis and incidents of past-life memories. You could try finding a past-life regression hypnotist

@winterknight Unless good and bad are relative ? Lol It can be a bad idea. But it can also be a good idea

That can be the Truth. Truth can be any and/or all of the following ways: 1. The self is not real 2. It is real 3. It is both real and not real 4. It is neither 5. It is both and neither etc. This can continue on infinitely... So @winterknight you’re correct in saying that there is no character. But, depending on the perspective, it can be just as correct to say otherwise. Your perspective doesn’t hold a monopoly over Truth nor does what I’ve said here

I agree. Nonduality vs. Duality is the final Duality to be collapsed

@Preetom Yes very true. It’s more of a broader, integrative step than a foundational one

That’s one method yes. Another method to remember is being fully aware of objects of experience because they’re all pieces of the Self

Very insightful I have another perspective to extend on that. Enlightenment is remaining Aware no matter how high or low the volume of experience is! Then again, you were already kind of hinting at that with your own words

Cool picture! You are the devil whispering lies into your own ear

@Leo Gura Objectively lower? Whichever one is lower (or even whether they’re both equal, as I’ve said) depends on what values and cognitive skills you consider greater. I have my reasons for why Liberal cognitive and moral value is no higher than Conservatives and I gave them. You said your reasons for placing Conservatives lower is because they have greater sense of self. Well, Liberals have just as great a sense of self (in my opinion) as more of them claim victim status and want laws to conform to their social identities. I see no less dense a sense of self there than Conservatives.

@Cody_Atzori Actually it is possible. I’m constantly immersed in It. I know that sounds cocky but I’m just saying it’s possible and actual

@zeroISinfinity Why are you now claiming superiority. I was at the point where there were no dualities and then later than that came the realization that there both are and aren’t Which is why I embrace your perspective but you’re trying to invalidate mine

@zeroISinfinity I’m including your perspective in mine. Like how God includes all selves within itself. Nonduality unites Dualities

@zeroISinfinity That is your perspective and experience of Truth Which is not meant to invalidate it by the way. It integrates it

@zeroISinfinity Ohh I see. So mine is a belief but your’s is objectively true