BlessedLion

I think a 50 year old would say build something meaningful as well. If you go the gym in your 30's and build a strong foundation of muscle , that investment will pay dividends well into your 50's, same for dating, making money, taking care of your health, so it's not so "live fast, die young" as we like to think. I think the most meaningful thing we can do is build for our future while enjoying the fruits of what we've built in our past.

Agreed, that's why i take 3 months out of the year just to party, have fun, be stupid, talk to girls, etc. It's like medicine, but if that becomes your life then i don't think it's wise

For sure, always smart to question the mind as well. I think the saddest thing about all this is that people are writing AI Slop books and books in general will lose their value and power. People will stop reading anything written after 2023, which will hurt the real authors who write profound and deeply human books. I would never read an AI assisted book, the best part of a book is that you are getting a unique human perspective put together through their own mastery and understanding which can go far further than AI. I think of like a Ralston, Wilber, JR Tolkien, etc type book- AI could never touch that level of masterpeice. The only place an "AI Book" could be good is like basic informational things, maybe history idk

Immediately didn't like this guy when i saw him in an interview once, i gotta say my radar for bullshit people is quite good for whatever reason. Helped me steer clear of people like Tai lopez, Alex Hormozi, andrew tate, and many other bullshitters, i can just immediately sense it in them, like a 6th sense

True, but all im saying is age does not equal wisdom Just look at Trump

There are 20 year olds who act with the wisdom of an old man and 80 year old who are as developed as a child. It's like that quote Leo recently posted: "What the wise do in the beginning, the fools do in the end" Unfortunately, most people need to get their asses kicked by life over and over before living Wise. Just get there first. I wouldn't trade my consciousness with any random 50 year old that would be a very silly mistake

If i'm really into a woman i definitely don't want another mans hands on here. But it takes me a long time to get to the point where I really care about that, I can keep it open for a while. I'm also such a flirt and don't like giving that up. I also don't know about going into every date filtering and searching for your totally compatible soul mate rather than just having fun and seeing where things go. I've been surprised many times by women i initially wrote off. But maybe i'm just more lax about it, i don't have a huge list of requirements nor am i super picky. If she's a good vibe, intelligent, kind and we have strong sexual chemistry I can make it work with most women, people are really picky these days and over complicate it imo.

Definitely, that kind of behavioral awareness is very important to get down

Upon reading a book on sexual evolution, I ran into the absolute best metaphor for Dating and Pick-Up coaches. I spent about 3 months studying this stuff, and while they do have some good points around low hanging fruits- for example "pecking" is where you lean in too much when talking to women, it displays that you are people-pleasing and dependent on her, like a beggar leaning in for a bowl of rice. They also share good tips on fashion, texting, dating culture, but it mostly ends there. Because after this what it becomes is manipulation. It becomes about displaying a perception of being a high value choice. Women are choosy, we know this. A sample of gay men in San Francisco showed that 25% of them had more than 1,000 sexual partners. To the straight men here, have you even had 100? 50? This shows how God damn horny and easily attracted men are, if we could have it our way, restaurants would have blowjob rooms next to the toilets. This frustrates men. So what these guy are learning and teaching is basically how to display the traits that women are choosy about, it's clever, and it works for the goal which is sex. But it is fundamentally deceptive and harmful, and the thing is , the women aren't actually choosing them, they are choosing their mask of a high value option and the perception they are spinning in her eyes. Now, here comes the metaphor- sexual evolution scientists ran an experement with a certain type of fish that is color coded. Basically the females find red striped males more attractive based on the brightness of the red. So what they did is took males with dull red colors and put bright red bands over them- the female fish were tricked! They mated with and chose these males. Yet, with humans it's not so simple, you can only keep on a band like that for so long before it wears down and she is exposed to the dull, weak band that actually exists there and she leaves you. That's what dating and pick up coaches mostly do. All the RSD guys and most of the books I've read (excluding Robert Gloover) are basically teaching how to display a bright red band. It's not neccesarily evil or bad too, because in nature animals do this all the type. Males will steal other males hard earned displays for mating, they will exagerrate traits or sounds to females and they will play dirty. There's no ethics in nature. It's about gene survival by any means neccesary, period. But does that mean we need to act like fucking animals? Like clever little manipulators of perception? I think not. To me? The solution is to be authentic, build a strong foundation and strong self concept, cut the low hanging fruits around your game and basic attraction skills and then display who you actually are to women, there is nothing to hide because you actually are a strong man now. (I don't like the word High-value, because that is relative and subjective, it implies people have some sort of inherit value and some are higher than others because of their sexual attraction which is bullshit) How to be a strong man? -Integrity -Purpose -Consistnecy -Emotional Stability -Physical Strength -Discipline -Sexual Mastery -Intelligence -Principles that you don't break

Bingo! Couldn't agree more. You may get less sex when you look for connections that are truly aligned, but the sex or connections that you do have are much better and more fun. Once we drop the game of needing to be an alpha male who can sleep with a lot of chicks, a ton of stress drops

I think it's good to be natural but also learn the basics of game. So many low hanging fruits that dudes could fix easily. I def agree that most dating/pick up coaches are completely lost. They've basically made their life purpose manipulating women to validate their egos causing much harm and pain on the way. Most of them cannot hold down a relationship and the facade crumbles after a few weeks. It's like they've mastered how to present and display themselves as a high value man without actually building the foundation of BEING one. Todd especially just seems like a total psychopath and is way too heady, the amount of rules and structure he teaches it's like he's trying to teach rocket science, like jesus it's not that complex if it was we wouldn't fucking exist. People have been building attraction and fucking for hundreds of thousands of years. I think sexuality and dating and attraction are absolutely essential to life, it's something most people should learn, practice, and experience. The sexual energy is funny, there's really no option BUT to master it. Because then you either become a headless chicken chasing every pussy you see, or you become a gooning loser paying OF chicks, but if you master you sexuality you can actually build something worthwhile and have the discipline to see it through

I also like the Integral Life (Ken Wilbers community) explanations of SD. I've been able to place myself quite firmly in Yellow which is interesting because 3 years ago I was like the poster child for Green. Crazy!

Great stuff in there, thanks

I feel like these kinda teachers just rape your mind- same with Teal Swan- I couldn't stay further away from her. Last video i saw from her was about how if you have sexual preferences they point to some kind of sexual shadow or trauma that you have. Like YUCK, why does every single thing have to point to some psyche miswiring or trauma or shadow, it's almost like a form of gaslighting where your constantly chasing shadows in your mind trying to stomp them out with foot when all you need to do is turn around and see that you are the SUN. Psycho-the-rapists

In that view it makes sense; most people will retain nothing from a 1-4 minute clip, it's like "insight candy crush" hahah. Unless they revisit that topic over and over then go deeper into it, or pause the video to think about it themselves, which most on Instagram or people consuming shorts, won't do. I'm going to get the Vault- this work has changed my life unfathomably and all other products I've purchased here have been well worth it. I hope the long-formats and courses do keep coming though!

Yeah but couldn't you say there is a shit-ton of context, foundation, examples, and explaining that is missed in clips? I mean isn't this something you stood quite firmly against, these 1 minute clips that YT, Insta, and such are moving towards? I feel like the Vault is probably mostly powerful for people who already have at least a foundation in this work.

The reason i didn't make the title "Most dating books suck" is because they don't. They typically point out major flaws that guys make in dating and help to get better results. At the same time, I've yet to see anyone who really "nails it" with a level of excellence and precision like a consciousness master like Ralston or Wilber would. And i get it, they have more important things to focus on. But, imagine Peter Ralston wrote a book on attraction and dating, it would be completely unlike anything you had ever seen and would likely be extremely powerful and effective. The closest i have seen to really contemplating the topic in a stage Yellow type of format is David DeAngelo. I recently saw a course of his on advanced dating techniques and it blew my mind the amount of research and integration he did. But still, i've really yet to find anyone get to the CORE of attraction. What IS attraction? How does it work? Why is it that way? Not even just in the sense of so you can get laid, but just for the passion of understanding such a complex topic. Like what is thing called attraction, that runs life itself and supports reproduction and why does it happen in this certain way? What makes some men so much more attractive than others? Not in some newbie 10 tips for dating way, but really getting at the foundation and workings of it. Also not some bland generic answer like status, height, looks, money- these don't build true attraction imo in any significant way, that's more of a survival response. And since i've found no one who goes that deep i am going to begin working on it myself. What actually is sexual attraction? How does one master attraction?

One issue i've come across on my Self Actualizing journey is that there is simply too many high quality perspectives and materials out there. Leo's book list is stacked with high quality thinkers whose books you could and should honestly read 3 times over, then i have my own book list and that's just the factual conceptual models and maps. Throw into that all the fiction, history, auto biographies, biographies and artistic poems or memoirs I want to read and it's literally hundreds of books. The thing about me is I am a VERY SLOW reader, with a physical book it can take me months to finish becuase i really procces and integrate what i am reading, almost to a fault. And i love reading, it's become one of my favorite activites, but my pace is so slow that i feel like i'm not going to get to all the information i want in a sufficient time. Right now i am studying sexuality and male/ female psycholgoy and attraction, books i want to read here are: The Req Queen Sperm Wars Double you dating Dating essentials for men Different The male brain The female brain The value of others Evolution 2.0 And a few others However, i've given myself a time zone of 3-4 months for this before moving back into consciousness work starting with Ralstons new book. Along with this study i am actually going out into the feild and observing it in action, going on dates being social etc, which takes time and energy. So like, if it takes me a month or two to finish a book you can see how this is problematic. One solution i found is audiobooks, a 400 page book might be 12-14 hours in audio format. Therefore, if i set a timer for one hour a day on audio i am guaranteed to finish the book within 2 weeks. What i don't like about this is i feel like i don't really let the information land or proccess as much. What has been your experience with this? Do you have a preference? Can you still get as much from audio versus physical? Thanks!

never forget that Stephen Hawking got laid. Jokes aside, regarding the scandenavian/Euro women, i've been noticing on netflix tons of these movies and shows (Cocks (dutch), Alpha Males (spain), The year i started masturbating (sweden), Dudes (germany) that are just making an absolute mockery of men and masculinity and framing men as completely useless and clownlike with the equality of genders today. The women make more money men, the men have trouble making decisions and have serious insecurity around their masculinity. I think it points to a larger pattern and the changing times. I just find it really interesting watching these European shows and movies and how brutally they portray men as these fumbling idiots who are basically rendered useless.

Great stuff, thank you all for your inputs

Yeah, this is so much healthier than scrolling. Even reading fiction or romance, reading in itself is super grounding

I've ran into this problem as well. That's why i am so excited and read so slow when Ralston drops a new masterpiece. Have you found anything really profound lately? I think audio books might be a good route for me, excluding masterpieces, because i do stop and think so much. My mind just tries to really GET what the author is saying but maybe to a fault

In terms of biology and science they aren't that old and still hold profound theories. I'm more interesting in understanding and integrating the foundation of all these things. I'll probably even read evolutionary books written in the 19th century just to have a deep grasp on the whole field

appreciate your take on this, i do think most can probably be enjoyed on audio. I also like to throw them on and play a mindless game like snake while sipping coffee, it makes it kinda fun and i still get the information. One book per week would be great. Also, the AI is great, i can get lots of clarity from having the AI explain the concepts to me. I'm doing that with Red Queen and it's been helpful

Bruh, i'm literally reading it right now and it's absolutely mind blowing. Only 6% in and it's beyond words quite literally. His best book yet so far imo. 4 pages per hour lol and i plan to re read it over and over