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@OBEler I have to also confess but this is just unbelievable! This can't be reality! I never would have thought I'd witness a live assassination event, it's crazy! It's confirmed that it's a real event, not fake. Damn what a time to be alive in!

@Husseinisdoingfine I agree. I am a conservative moderate still, and despite what I think of Trump then, less hating than you lot do but I still had reservations, now I hope he wins and makes Colorado pay for this! Also get ready for that 900 pages of project 2025!🤣😭

@Vibes Therefore most likely the attempt is real. I also think it's not a rifle, some other type of gun, not a .22 caliber because that's too noticeable even in Colorado. Apparently 2 found dead after the shots rang out, and shooter is one of them, so it had to be some pistol or revolver or maybe a smaller rifle of some kind.

@Merkabah Star I know right?! The attack happened, and some lefties or most folks here are just still in denial? What, have you lot never scene a live assassination attempt before or seen a movie of such an attempt?

@mrPixel Well, given the inaccuracy it might not be a .22 caliber because that needs a rifle and scope, and if the shooter had a rifle and scope he'd not miss the target. This is more likely an older type of rifle with no scope, or some other weapon, and I assume the shooter was inexperienced and had less training to manage his firearm. See, if the shooter was in the crowd that weapon would be very noticeable, to prop an aim a .22 caliber rifle at Trump in the middle of that rally? Nope some other type of gun is used.

@Jannes Stop downplaying and denying this event. IT WAS A REAL ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT! 2 dead bodies after he was shot. How could you fake 2 dead bodies and several gunshots?! I swear some of you here are not funny trolling. You need help.

@Recursoinominado @gambler Yeah most likely the shooter died. Well, this is freaking nuts! Well, I guess Trump 2.0, and maybe this time he'll take gun control very seriously!😂 Most likely.

@Merkabah Star That's also possible, depending on the BB gun and the air pressure. Some BB with higher air pressure hits harder shots, and the bullet could even be of metal. In fact I have a crazy story that happened to my father about 30 years ago. He was living in a terrace house with his older brother and his parents. They had one of those old airsoft guns, the more heavy duty ones unlike the modern ones. They were just playing around, and his older brother was firing practice shots down the second hall to the bathroom out of the bedroom. To the right when you exit the bedroom is the stairs going down. When my Dad was carrying some snacks, his older brother had just pulled the trigger, and had my father been a split second sooner that bullet would've entered his skull. Instead the bullet just grazed part of his scalp, and it gave him a bit of a concussion. After that my grandmother was furious at the airsoft and she annihilated it.

@Recursoinominado You'd be surprised how much adrenaline can do to make you more resilient to damage to your body. I've seen some cases were navy seals or those soldiers survived a shoot out and ambush, some had several gunshot wounds yet were tough as hell and still were running, using their firearms. Don't underestimate how much dp you can take and still behave relatively like that.

@OBEler Seems like to me it was a real attempt. Despite how easy it is to handle a gun, it's not that easy to aim and have near perfect accuracy if you are not trained enough. I say Trump was extremely lucky the assassin had shit accuracy. Seems to me his ear damage is real too. And those shots are from a real gun. You know in the past another thread I did say Trump wasn't popular enough to win, now thanks to this freak show Trump's popularity will increase. Now is the time to probably start worrying. OMG all it takes is some nut case to ruin an entire country. Flashbacks to the start of WW1...

@Merkabah Star Was just going to make a thread about it! WHAT'S HAPPENING?! Just saw this vid on my timeline. IMO this is a very dangerous situation. We don't want to martyr Donald Trump and just embolden the far right anymore. See this is what I was talking about in the other thread. Trump hating and fear mongering about Trump might win election or oh no maybe Trump wins this or that! THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT! You lot take politics so serious that a few deranged nut cases now wanted to shoot up Trump. This is what I mean when I say you all, yes including some mods and admin you all need to chill with the Trump hate! It's one thing to discuss and maybe debate on Trump this or Biden that. This is what too much fear mongering LOOKS LIKE!

@enchanted Nah, it's fine to debate and argue, for understanding's sake. At least in arguing we get to hash out what's so different between those 2 sides or those differing sides in a shared conflict. At least in this forum it's ok to argue as long as you're logical and not cursing or insulting the other side too much.

@Rafael Thundercat Oh yeah that movie, got it! It's this one, had watched it a long time ago:

@Rafael Thundercat Wait, Ellysium is that movie with the aliens that visited the earth, then their ship broke down, then they integrated into the ghetto culture? Or is it the other movie with Matt Damon, that actor in the Borne Identity movies right?

@Rafael Thundercat Never having gone deep? WDYM? The deep end of name calling, insults, cursing, being too emotional and offended? Or you mean the deep end as in first hand experience of a violent event? I mean @Gennadiy1981 has demonstrated in this whole thread he was willing to write lengthy posts. I may have figured out what you meant but I'll wait for response.

@integral I would agree, and maybe Ken Wilbur didn't explain it clearly, but I think he was right in moments when stage red can join up to stage green and misuse and manipulate pure stage greens for their heart bias and humanitarian bias. Like how do you explain events like Charles Manson and how he formed his cult movement? Or how about when Osho started in Oregon county and became more popular there? And few more examples I could list of when stage red was influencing stage greens.

When stage green becomes toxic: They are doing those eco activism wrong.

Just 5 years ago, even though they have been through a lot as a people, did have some good places to go:

Now not to get outdone by @Nivsch posting pretty images, here are a few videos of Palestine before all hell broke loose:

@Gennadiy1981 What do you mean? It has been circular since the original thread on this topic of Israel/Palestine been locked, few more like it opened and then locked. Now this thread maybe on the way to get locked. And what do you expect from @Raze? Him, @Karmadhi, @Twentyfirst, sometimes @zazen, sometimes @Scholar, maybe even @Merkabah Star have posted and shared some terrible news from Twitter and some news outlets. Likely they won't be posting about the beach or tourist sites in Israel like @Nivsch was, as they are representing the pro Palestinian side here, and you the pro Israel side. So it's reasonable there's some communications here that'll be charged and a bit stark between you 2 sides. It might be a nice change of pace if one of them posted a vacation site in Palestine or something, but overall they're not happy with the situation, comparable to your side feeling unhappy too, so it's a bit unreasonable to expect their posting style to change now.

@Rafael Thundercat Jesus Christ mate!🤣 Well if you get a warning and maybe ban I will complain for you, don't worry. But man you're getting excited, maybe chill and take a break.

Another video of the same guy, and a second that illustrates the talking points and speaking patterns of these Nazis hiding in plain sight: Way more obvious and plain in the second video. Not posting these to advocate or show support. Am posting to showcase these patterns to watch out for, make them your study case by case. If you want to know an actual Nazi, or what a scammer or con artists are like, you pick some examples and study how they communicate, and pick up on their mannerisms, body language, tonality, their 'vibe' and 'energy'. This is how you give yourself extra protection against these types, by catching the con very early on and distancing yourselves from these nationalists. Don't be too late otherwise you may get hit with Stockholm syndrome and denial.

@Rafael Thundercat Sorry I took so long in reacting to this. Without going into several paragraphs breaking down his body language, he's generally decent, good body language. One thing I'd note, to his verbals, he has moments of 'tutting' and moments of inflexing his voice, making some of his words and statements sound like a question. In body language tutting is generally strong negative feeling and strong disagreement and disapproval, typically of what you heard someone said or did, but in this context he's tutting himself and probably what he's thinking. I think IMO this is his first time or his few times filming himself so he's feeling the nerves get to him, and feeling nervous sharing his perspective of America as a foreigner himself. Now the moments of those tonality where he sounded like asking a question...in body language that tone indicates feeling uncertainty and feeling unsure of what he's saying. Some here and I noticed a few comments there were thinking he's either lying or a traitor to his country. No, at best he's just feeling unsure and uncertainty in the moment of sharing his inner thoughts and feelings about America to American or even UK audiences. Besides all that, great message. You reap what you sow, and that's a good thing about America being a meritocracy...kind of, it's actually egalitarianism, multiculturalism, and the function of good democracy. At least you have some freedoms and right and free speech and even the 2nd amendment, as imperfect as it is America is a good place to even probably live long term. Then there's camping, national parks, and even Big Foot...even UFOs and haunting places...like you nearly got everything in America!. Also a long time ago I have been with my family to America so I mostly agree with his take, even if he wasn't feeling as confident or secure in himself in some moments here and there.

This was about 5 years ago, from that Novara Media YT: