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@Gennadiy1981 Your entire argument and it's premises falls flat against @Raze's thread about saving Israel via stopping the war because you assume he's making this argument, but the user could have just as easily quoted someone else, so at best you're arguing a second hand messenger, at worst you're arguing at nothing but a troll thread, wasting people's times with this.

@Raze I firstly don't speak their language, I think it's Hebrew and not Arabic, correct me if wrong, so my read into her body language and tonality is at least a third reduced in accuracy, can't do statement analysis or word choices here, but I can at least do body language, verbal, and discourse analysis on here. My impressions, overall she's very emotional and distressed, her tonality displays urgency and desperation, plenty of facial cues such as eyebrow flashes(feeling surprised, emphasis or social approval/connection), plenty of illustrations with her hands and looking around the podium to her audience I assume. Also, given she has Israel flag to her right she's a representative of Israel, therefore speaking for Israel. I detect moments when she verbally says 'Palestine' or 'Palestinians', and when she says 'Biden' she spikes in activity, over emphasizing. I can only assume it's similar to Adolf Hitler: passionately speaking against a common enemy, although I don't hear mention of 'HAMAs', or 'Hezbollah', or 'terrorists', but 'Palestine' or something similar is used instead, which means she's speaking emotionally against Palestine or the PLO, emotionally appealing to Israeli against PLO/Palestine more so than HAMAs per say. I don't know, and could be wrong. If someone can translate that's great, but I think it's important to note a lack of mentioning 'HAMAs' but mentioning 'Palestine/Palestinians', so maybe she could be emotionally appealing to stop the war on Gaza, unlikely possibility at this point, but it's possible, but why I think it isn't is because she mentioned 'Biden' and her body language in that moment was more antagonistic, my feeling here, as if she's complaining and throwing a tantrum that 'Biden' has ordered Israel, lately, to try and limit it's war and attacks on Gaza.

@zazen My first impressions of that clip: 🤣🤣🤣 To be fair, I've remembered seeing him in past videos, and there are moments when he's speaking English tiny bits of stuttering or tongue twists, so clearly English is not a fluent language for him. Now I initially find it hard to believe, based on his appearance, and presentation, and possibly him valuing high status positions and valuing politics that he'd advance this far with a stuttering problem, so I think it's likely IMO this stuttering isn't natural or isn't part of his speech impediment, more likely due to feeling distressed and verbally self censoring saying 'Israel' to her very loaded questioning regarding the Beirut assassination. To be fair, he did slip up at 0:30 saying 'Israel is a war', despite her questioning, and somehow found himself stuttering. Stuttering itself isn't a sign of deception, but a sign of the mind trying to internalize linguistically how to answer and verbally continue the answer without jeopardizing one's career or reputation, considering this question is about the Beirut assassination, therefore one really wrong answer from him likely will have reputational costs to him, at least that's my feeling. Also, the start of him answering her question, his tonality inflexes, on the word 'obvious', feels like an emphasis trying to say how 'obviously' this is someone's fault other than 'Israel'. Several factors could have triggered this stuttering, even a 'brain fart' moment is a legitimate factor because in some interview footages this did happen, and I remember seeing the author interviewed stuttered, blink rate increased and she's just searching for the right answer, even though the question was simple and isn't attacking her book but she somehow lost her train of thought and came off too defensive, and due to her feeling shame and embarrassment and a long pause, further worsened her brain fog moment and it became one viral moment in the internet. To be fair to him, despite my knowledge and some experience body language analysis and communications, in that position I'd probably fumble and screw up in a few ways IF I haven't prepared myself for that line of questioning, but IMO she wasn't really attacking him in that question, but I do feel like after he uttered 'Israel is at war' he became self conscious that he's going down a VERY DANGEROUS topic line, such that he non-verbally felt he had to self censor which brought up this stuttering, which always ends up being clipped.

Really good talk, worth a watch as we have 1 systems thinker(Daniel Schmachtenberger), 1 pundit(John Vervaeke) and 1 intellectual who also realized no self(Iail McGilchrist), talking about tbe meta crisis in a debate format with Daniel Schmachtenberger in the middle. It's not arguing or debating, but good will, good faith dialogue between, not the shitty streamers style of talking: Many good lessons in terms of Spiral dynamics stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality typing and traits by Myers Briggs and the Big Five personality traits modals, 9 stages of ego development by Jane Loevinger, Archetypes by Carl Jung, Integral Theory's other lines of development in life and societal domains, ideological differences and beliefs indoctrinated by culture and family upbringing, and information ecology and warfare. What are your thoughts on the Meta crisis? What are your thoughts on game heory, and game A and game B? Do toy like the video, and that setting? IMO nice fireplace setting, the wooden design, the marble and various shades or blue bricks, but boring looking monochrome black fireplace. Lovely lamps and window. Good tonality and body language, word choice. Good discussion setup with Daniel in middle, John on right and Iain on left, small coffee table between them and camera position opposite to Daniel but 1-2 metres away, nice carpeting and comfy armchairs. My impression is this is sub communication of aristocracy and upper class values, that this is a rich man's room with big brain individuals, but are wealthy in knowledge and worth. Whar do you think of the interview and discourse framing? I did a bit of body language analysis, verbal analysis, some discourse and statement analysis and overall good mood. Nit pick here is John Vervaeke and his bringing his hands together in a steeple, pointy fingers. Typically prayer positions with fingers out non-verbally shows power and aggression. Iain's pacing is slowest in comparison to Daniel and John. Reasonable good communication from Daniel, good emphasise on certain words and communicating good will, careful not to reframe, letting both men open statement and frame this meta crisis in their way. Also, Daniel's appearance of the white bushy beard, classic Wiseman look, simple t-shirt and pants, John Vervaeke wears more a confy suit, not business but ones that educated intellectuals wear, the good student wea, like what George W. Bush's opponent worn before the Iraq war, plus he's wearing glasses with thick black frames, again makes him look smarter and a boss. Iain McGilchrist wears similar but colours are coffee to cream light.

@kenway True. 😁

@kenway Everyone is at varying degrees, otherwise you'd no longer be you.

@Nivsch @kenway I think you both would get along in a coffee shop if you both weren't this bi9ased and ideological.

@Kazman 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Ramanujan Some history written by winners is full of shit, but also full of truths. History is complicated and not just right or wrong. Europeans killing 90% of native Americans via virus is no fault of their own, as the historical context shows their understanding of disease spreads and viruses were limited compared to modern times. If you want to blame them with this specific point, then for moral consistency also blame the Mongolian empire for spreading the black plague via the silk road westwards, although key difference between Mongolia and European settlers is that Mongolia somewhat intended to spread the black death there, whereas the European settlers, the GB, Italians, Spanish, French, German settlers, wanted to go to new lands to settle away from their own native lands that they struggled with far more. Because Trans Atlantic slave trade was universal and an industry business at that time, and beforehand human slavery was also practiced by the Asian culture, the Arabians in the middle east, the Greeks/Romans and ancient world, and EVEN THE AFRICAN CULTURES. In fact when Europeans eventually were involved in the trans Atlantic slave trade, the reason why it took off quickly was because the kingdoms and monarchs in Africa were already enslaving other losing African tribes and selling them to Arabians and to Europeans. Also, I will keep on emphasizing this, GB WAS THE ONLY COUNTRY AT THIS TIME TO HAVE ANTI SLAVERY POLICIES. GB was the only country to be warring against the slave trade in Africa and other parts of the world, and imposed heavy economic sanctions against countries that practice the slave trade, and even fought sea battles against pirates that are involved in the human slave trade. That's for historical context, now we look at the present which is different from that historical context as I have stated covers other cultures, again like how the Spanish settlers dealt with the Aztec empire's human sacrifice rituals and cannibalism of other smaller tribes in that region that's a different context showing some good from European colonialism. Now back to present, you can say that Israel now is part a settler colonialism and expanding onto Palestinian lands, but the more greater part is that Israel is being lead by Zionists with an alt right ideology and nationalism/patriotism that wants more land and for Israel to expand more.

@zazen I agree at this point any building in Gaza may be seen to be a HAMAs fortification from IDF, considering the many tunnels they made. I hope Israel and others clean the mess they made in Gaza with all that building and social infrastructure destruction. I agree there ae 2,000 pound bombs being dropped, which are designed to have shrapnel going outwards. That type of bomb is in fact too large and too heavy for precision bombing, and yes in war times propaganda and brainwashing go way up to demonize/dehumanize the other side in this Israel/Palestinian conflict. I can't believe some here don't see in this binary opposition the asymmetries in this conflict in terms of suffering and trauma, that the Palestinians have it way worse than Israel even before this new conflict with HAMAs. I agree with that statements, typical generalizations and distortions of reality, putting Israel on a pedestal and covering them with victim cards, but not Palestine cuz clearly they're monsters. I also believe that the 'voluntary' migration here is just part of the genocide process, I don't see how nobody could see this pattern. Everyone failing the common sense test here, because when a country bombs the hell out of properties, buildings and other social infrastructures get damaged which leave the citizens more limited places to live or take shelter, I mean targeting social infrastructures like this is considered a war crime isn't it?

@Gennadiy1981 In your biased opinion, of course.

@Nivsch Firstly, this post has a lot of bad faith framing: Is 'any' (generalization) aid in the world *will(would) help them if a 'brainwashing cult'(Your interjection, nobody here every said, nor I have stated HAMAs or Hezbollah as a brainwashing cult, you did) will keep controlling them(assuming HAMAs or Hezbollah will forever remain in control of Palestine or the PLO) The 'only'(interjecting an absolute condition here as the only one way) real aid is to change the authority there to something really different that is not HAMAs(I'd agree here specifically) nor PLO in it's current form(the PLO that is constrained by Israel for decades?) Without this(another absolute claim to bolster the previous absolute claim), every thing else(generalizing) will be a *jock(joke, but I'm not laughing, don't find this post funny with it's typos), and nothing will improve(another absolute assumption, again who's saying this other than you? Not me, nor anyone else in this thread but YOU).

@hundreth Cool, don't send them money, fine. Send them what instead? Aid? Labor equipment? Extra cement? Team of experts to rebuild their damaged properties, assuming Israeli settlers don't get their first? And again, who's going to pick up the pieces Israel has destroyed in Gaza, or in the West Bank? The ruling Zionists and Israel? Palestine itself, even though as a nation it lacked sufficient social infrastructure before this conflict, and especially after and during the bombings by IDF onto buildings? Should other countries like Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Turkey, Iran, should they instead be responsible for picking the pieces in Gaza? And which group will be responsible for Palestinians migrating away from this conflict? Will it be America, after all best buddies of Israel due to the enormous influential arm by A.P.A.C, a Israel lobby group in the USA? Who will cover the damages? Who gets to decide who or what group covers the damages?

This is quite the interesting video, somewhat educational but mostly entertainment dunking on some body language analysis YouTube channels. I will do a body language and tonality analysis, as well as discourse and statements to see if she's truthful, joking, maybe defensive or deceptive: Firstly it's a good video, for me hard get a read on her body language and tonality, as she consistently has this resting bitch face, combined with her performative gestures because this is her YouTube video and she's putting on a persona on camera, first off good presentation, visuals, music, humour, mixing both entertainment with some educational coverage, tackling the issue of whether body language analysis is a pseudoscience or not. Onto specifics, the real issue however, is that she mistakes the scammers and con artists in this field for the entire field being a pseudoscience, just akin to how Kanye West had a problem with one individual, very likely, and because of that, which makes him biased and preferential against that one person, generalizes and distorts that negativity onto the group the person represents, she's doing exactly what Kanye West and others with preconceived notions of body language analysis, or any other field that's a soft science or a fringe field or ideology would do, all because it's an alternative field of interest getting popularized into the mainstream culture and she's having this ideological dogmatic reaction against it, specifically likely towards the few individuals that are scammers trying to scam and take advantage of this field. However, on the big picture level, and based on many developmental factors like Spiral Dynamics stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits(Myers Briggs and Big Five personality traits modal), Architypes(by Carl Jung), 9 stages of ego development(by Jane Loevinger), states of being and becoming and consciousness, Integral Theory's lines of development in life and societal domains(by Ken Wilbur), ideological beliefs indoctrinated by cultural and societal programming, family upbringing, and the information ecology we're all consuming, from social media sites, to alternative/mainstream YouTube videos, news, and many more information points that manufactures consent leveraged by big corporations for conspicuous consumption, and all other prior contexts, she's inaccurate, and wrong, and is misleading and misinforming about her takes of body language, committing lot's of false conflations and some categorical errors with deep ontological, epistemic and methodological ramifications. Firstly she has confused body language analysis for a hard science, and confused what scammers and con artists claiming they're body language experts as pseudoscience. I specifically agree if she has an issue with one or few scammers, swindlers, grifters, fraudsters, opportunists and con artists claiming they're body language experts and being disingenuous via appeals to authority, pathos, ethos and sometimes logos, their fallacies committed, and taking advantage of a customer base, but her framing is dishonest and bad faith here because she has issue with HOW THEY'RE COMMUNICATING, and conflates that to labeling the ENTIRE BODY LANGUAGE FIELD AS A PSEUDOSCIENCE and the COMMUNITY OF BODY LANGUAGE ANALYSTS AS PSEUDOSCIENCE FOOLS. Here she's confusing and conflating, and judging the whole field I consider a soft science more so than art. She's projecting hard science standards and scientific methods that bias and preferences for qualitative methods, methodologies, and hard science that bias for mathematics, engineering, physics, chemistry, technology, materialism, rationalism, and reductionism, standards based solely on hyper controlled laboratory conditions and thinking that this line of thinking justifies her case and assertion for body language as a pseudoscience. Ontologically, metaphysically and epistemically she has made a big categorical error and asymmetrically judges body language with hard science and academia standards, when she in fact should have used soft science, sociology, psychology and qualitative methodology, methods and standards to judge and discern the body language field instead, and she should have instead focused on the scammers themselves specifically, and not generalize and distort her criticism for one person onto a group/field of interest. Very good example of misleading and misinforming, and the ego thinking it's right in doing so. In fact the majority of her argument points, you can reflect that back at her and she's as guilty as her criticisms of body language experts as well, if not some more from just the misunderstanding and conflating a few scammers and labeling the entire field as a pseudoscience because she suffers from the same confirmation biases against not just body language as a perceived pseudoscience, but might as well any scientific field that's paranormal/supernatural and fringe as a pseudoscience. Another deeper problem is that she underestimates the deep problems with science and academia as a field, and underestimates the deep bias they have in thinking they can just view the entire world, or parts of nature and categorize each into neat little boxes, into small picture thinking, and treat life like it's a controlled experiment, in laboratory conditions. Nope, life is far more complicated than rationalists and materialists have you believe, especially the part when a group of academic scientists, biased for academia culture, attempting to critique Paul's work as pseudoscience is THEIR PROJECTION AND BIASED PREFERENTIAL STANDARDS. To be clear, I ain't attacking her, or critiquing her from selfishness, or defending the scammers, but I just hate this deep misunderstanding and mistake she's doing here, just because a field of interest has a few scammers DOESN'T MAKE THE ENTIRE FIELD PSEUDOSCIENCE! Tired of when people generalize and distort reality when they have grievance for one person or a few persons, but then project that onto an entire field or group. That's ridiculous and callous behavior.

@zazen Reminds me of this 300 line in the movie: Decide for yourselves what the metaphor points to.

@Nivsch That's interesting, so who's responsibility is it to rebuild damaged social infrastructures after this Israel/Palestinian conflict? The Gazans, who are far less developed as a nation and state compared to Israel? Lebanon? Egypt? Turkey, who are NATO allies? Syria? the whole of Iran? Maybe Iraq? Maybe every Islam follower around the world? Why not Israel? Why not other Jews outside of Israel and from other countries? Why not the ruling elite rich Zionists? Why would you shift responsibility away from Israel, the ruling Zionists and IDF, who's doing most of the property damage on Gaza hmm? How about the USA being a candidate for rebuilding damaged Gaza buildings and infrastructure, via loaning equipment?

@Ramanujan To be fair to the European colonization and settlers, there was a lot of good that came from the colonization Era, for example when the Spaniards and conquistadors set foot on south America, and encountered the Aztec empire, key word EMPIRE and not tribe, which practices some forms of cannibalism and human sacrifice of ripping open the chest of defeated tribal warriors while they're alive, the Spanish colonists put a stop to those barbaric practices, and even the native tribes in that region, and no the Spanish there weren't just being brutal but they were diplomatic, but they didn't have to be too diplomatic because the losing tribes in that region offered to make a coalition against the Aztec Empire, and thanks to them over throwing the Aztec empire peace was restored, and no more barbaric practices of cannibalism and human sacrifices were continued. Also, before and during the European colonization GB is the first Empire to have a strong anti slavery policy as an altruistic principle, and they were the first, not the USA or others, to pursue an anti slavery policy.

@Vrubel Cool, just don't forget to tell the sunny handsome IDF or the shining Zionists running Israel to rebuild the damaged buildings, properties and social infrastructures within West Bank and especially Gaza okay? Homeless Palestinians who struggle for fresh water and maybe drinking salt water due to IDF planning to flood the tunnels with seawater are very harsh environmental conditions for the citizens no? Again screw HAMAs, but don't screw the Palestinians yeah?

@MellowEd In another context, say in a Uniciv game, or Civ 1,2,3,4 or 5 game, you're like this great prophet unit designed in the game to spread a religion within your own friendly city state territory. However, in this forum, this isn't friendly territory, and this forum talks more about Self actualization, philosophy, metaphysics, epistemology, psychology, spirituality, non-duality and other advanced concepts, basically 'unfriendly territory' for you as an enemy city state, which diminishes your spread percentage rate here.

@MellowEd Besides the spiritual context here, in the body language/verbal/discourse/statement context, my first impressions is he's a good communicator, good tonality and good body language communication of his beliefs and experiences. Lots of referring to the bible and it's passages, hopeful tonality. Pacing of speech is also fast, almost like Destiny or Ben Shapiro with that quick delivery and also deep chesty breathing which makes sense to me even though chest breathing could be interpreted as distress and the body needing more oxygen it makes sense here as he's speaking quickly and with energy, good punctuations and inflexes on certain words. Overall I do feel he's quite persuasive in communication, and factoring in discourse and presentation of his setting, him talking to Christians like this it makes sense for him to speak and behave like this non-verbally. I detect very little deception or defensiveness from him, I think he's telling the truth of his experiences, so his experiences are genuine to him, and I detect very little incongruence of his baseline to his audience, definitely an experienced speaker so pretty decent to me.

@MellowEd Here are my thoughts, disregarding the forum culture here: Yes, spirits and the paranormal/supernatural exists IMO, at least from what I've experienced so far. Yes, souls exists regardless of what most people think here, because that explains the subjective experiences of those dreams as your soul traveling to different parts for exploration., into places with wonky physics and different logic structures. You can check out my thread here:

This is an interesting debate, good to observe the maturity/immaturity of the speakers. Note how Destiny deflects and weaponizes rephrases:

I realized the main problem with posting drama is it's in the wrong sub forum. Various topics about Destiny, not for drama but to keep his problems relevant to this space. So share videos about him, some problematic things he said and did, and maybe some good debates he has. As I have said in another thread in terms of many developmental factors Destiny's sociopathy, him valuing capitalism and determinism, him having a head space bias and categorical/literal thinking pattern, him having lower moral development closer to modernism than post modernism, him having some psychopathy and sociopathy mixed in with him being open minded, conscientious, introverted, disagreeable while faking agreeable signs, Integral Theory's other lines of development in life and society as he's raised half Cuban half American with a distant background of Catholicism, past conservative and nowadays liberal. I think due to his 12 years of online gaming and debating political topics in a low conscious drama environment he has developed skills to lie nd perform really well. take these 2 videos and compare and contrast: and Are remarkably similar. After observing his baseline in body language and tonality, and seeing his performative gestures, it's amazing that we have him behaving as such in the Mr. Girl drama, a person who really made him distressed and defensive underneath that performative show of calm and confidence despite the framing, and behaving very similarly with his wife divorcing him. Here's one rare moment, I feel it's genuine more than deceitful, which begs the question of the relations between him and Brittany here: Share yor thoughts about this growing in popularity streamer.

@kenway To be fair to some users here, I think they just can't imagine a dead child body. I bet most here can't and are not willing to visualize a dead child, so imagining 8,000 dead children is going to be extremely difficult for these people, especially when they're indoctrinated into demonizing and dehumanizing the Palestinians together with the HAMAs group. It's too personal and in-field for them to open their minds to the possibility that they are mind fucked by their state and are wrong in their assumptions. For example it's far easier for them to imagine candles and match sticks and a book and they're always in the moral right, but dead bodies? Nah, that's to disturbing, too strong a thought terminating cliche there. Easier to dehumanize a national identity than to empathize with their decades of suffering.

@Raze I'd love to see how the hoe Destiny would handle any discourse with Norm Finklestein or even gape, given how pro Israel he's been lately.