Danioover9000

@Nivsch I'm not gaslighting, I'm stating that @Vrubel has accused @Leo Gura of having and 'skewed bias'. Since you @Nivsch have supported @Vrubel and few other users of pro Israeli bias, you are complicit and equally guilty as @Vrubel when the fact is that @Leo Gura has a reasonable view of both Israel and Palestine.

@Nivsch There is a need to address this because you keep on supporting @Vrubel with hearts and pluses. The same guy who claimed Leo is skewed you also share that. If you keep on mentioning @Leo Gura and similarly accuse others of a 'skewed bias', then don't be surprised to get some push back for being unreasonable.

@Rafael Thundercat Why do you not think he's a good example of polyamorous relations gone wrong? OP is proclaiming the benefits of poly via his anecdotal experiences, wants to hear our opinions, and what? Not expect reasonable pushback? Don't assume all poly is smooth sailing, just like monogamy, yet on averages poly is much harder than monogamy, and OP's bias is creating these false conflations, trying to persuade and convert more into poly when it's actually not all rainbows. Monogamy prevailed mostly over poly for very good reasons.

@Cocolove IMO polyamorous is mostly immoral and harder to manage. And what do you mean by a lot of green and orange? Spiral Dynamics stages of development, the human cultural values modal? Why are you conflating Spiral Dynamics with polygamy and polyamory? What is a low consciousness criticism to you? And why are you conflating your experiences as if they can advocate to other groups of men and people? It maybe true in your experience so far your poly is going smoothly, so far, yet why assume you speak for most average people here? How is polyamory the next step off of monogamy, when in history native tribes and pagans were mostly poly than mongamous, and when organized religions that are staunch stage blue with some stage red values overthrew cuckoldry and polygamy/polyamory and established arranged marriages and promoted monogamous relationships? Again, why do you think, despite how valid your experiences are personally and individually, that you have the right to advocate the collective and convert more people into being polyamorous and cucks? Why do you want more competition in your dating area like this, and disregard the values of marriages and monogamous relations like this? Not a big deal, some threads have traction, some like yours don't. And plenty of stage greens still do monogamous relations and some have a reasonable healthy psyche. Why assume most greens are poly and anti monogamy? Why assume poly won't work unless we're all in a stage turquoise communist utopia? Why do you assume a lot of stage green valuing people, like new agers and hippies are mostly poly? Some are more open ended relations, and some still do monogamy. Why do you think it's unnatural for jealousy to occur? And this is your problem being projected onto a large swarf of people here. You think monogamy is way too controlling, to sacrificial, too limited, too jealousy, too insecure, too romanticized, and somehow everything with monogamy feels 'so low consciousness'. This is the most blatant bad faith fallacies of monogamy I HAVE EVER HEARD! If this is the hill you want to die on, fine, but don't assume you'll not get reasonable backlash for this type of thinking!

@Cocolove Don't be like Divorcelli. Don't endorse polyamorous relations.

@Nivsch Really? You share the same views as this post below:

@Merkabah Star I could argue that the Palestinian side was earlier heavily censored in mainstream news circuits way more than Israel's propaganda. Israel was getting that pass, for example with that 48 beheaded babies headline. Like that's a very specific number and claim, yet apparently evidence for that is so elusive and hard to verify at that time that it's surprising it got the green light to circulate in the news cycles.

@zazen Yes I meant to say way earlier Israel's propaganda was spreading very quick. Yes later with social media and drones capturing snippets of crimes is when Israel's propaganda was reduced a bit. True it sounds ridiculous for a court system, the juries and judge to let the guilty party trial itself and investigate itself. Maybe in a utopia world with stage turquoise societies we can do that, but we're nowhere near utopia at all.

@Nivsch You claimed he has a skewed bias, yet @Leo Gura showed level headed takes to both sides here. Yet when Leo covers Palestine, you and 3 other hyper Israel Zionists were attacking him and claiming he's so biased when he previously covered Israel. So...

@Vrubel Bra, we are talking about Israel news, and like how they quickly spread manufactured likes in western media, and like earlier Palestinian news and anything countering Israel was like censored to a millionth time. Yah that social media, like insta and Tik Tik kinda increased coverage but that's later, and I'm speaking EARLIER BRA!

@Nivsch The main problem is that @Leo Gura demonstrated a balanced realistic take on this whole Israel/Palestine situation, and here you're claiming he's so biased against Israel and supportive of Palestine, with no evidence to support and corroborate your accusation. Why slander Leo like this? So one minute Leo's telling you what you like to hear, but when he shows support for Palestine for a moment he's very biased???

@Vrubel So please don't focus in on Israel, buy my attempts to obfuscate and omit truth as I speak!

@Vrubel So everywhere else but Israel?

@Nivsch How is this a justified refutation to counter Israel's faster and wider propaganda spread in the mainstream huh?

@Vrubel How is that not true? How is @Leo Gura's perspective so skewed in comparison to your pro Israeli perspective? Is that really true that few people are Zionists? What about Netanyahu's cabinet, and those that elected him into power? Only a few Zionist Israelis huh? Why are you inverting the truth? Your Israel propaganda was spreading widely and rapidly in mainstream news outlets! Meanwhile Palestinian propaganda wasn't and was censored.

@Nivsch Nope, most of Israel's propaganda started mainstream western news with little challenge back, meanwhile propaganda from Palestinians were getting heavily censored from mainstream. Instagram and TikTok are not reliable numbers and indicators of how strong a propaganda spread is, as those 100m people you claim, with no evidence to back that up can be all bots and all fake accounts. I'm talking about the traditional and mainstream news here, not fucking social media alternative news.

@mmKay Nice. Mine is Myers Briggs personality types and the Big Five personality traits modal. Also Jane Loevinger's 9 stages of ego development.

So which is better for the economy: fiat money or coins?

@Nivsch Just because Israel's messages are reductionistic but doesn't mean they don't have truth behind them, doesn't mean they were edited and obfuscating and omitting some truth and information out of those messages. As if propaganda is time limited, in fact propaganda can continue onwards UNTIL EEVERYONE BELIEVES THE LIES! Hoe is thinking counter propaganda of Palestinians against Israel's propaganda 100 times the volume, when most of the west is canceling and censoring the Palestinians news coverage???😂🤣

@Alexop I don't know enough of Judith Butler to have an opinion on her, but IMO Judith Polgar is a very impressive chess grandmaster.

@ChadT Putting aside the whole Destiny derailing, I don't agree with your framing that Joe Rogan didn't push back hard enough when he did push back reasonably enough to not look like a crazy person to those who have a similar bias to Tucker. Keep in mind this is Joe's career, he cannot afford to be too aggressive to his guests when pushing back. Most podcasters make a living by recruiting special guests and hopefully guests that recurring to their podcasts.

@Raze No need to do a whole analysis about Destiny, when I have a few threads about Destiny already, with many other types of analysis on him:

@Bobby_2021 Completely agree, Piers Morgan is a fake lefty and a parasite, abandons the UK to grift in American soil. He is immature and ideologically biased and makes the guest look more mature minded. Piers Morgan appears adult in the room, yet when guest lays down the facts maturely, this disturbs him. He's a man child, in denial, how wild YouTube allows this little bile to file. I'll, as Slim Shady's child, point out Piers's ancestry: Morgan La Fay.

IMO reasonable take by Asmongold here: Which I mostly agree because Piers Morgan was character assassinating Hasan here, and bad faith tactics and manipulating him, and presenting some false dilemmas and false dichotomy here. Main point I agree with Asmongold is moral condemnation, which most people seem to assume it means a person is only allowed to morally condemn one group only, and not assume that some members of the same side can also have the mental capacity to also denounce morally parties on the same side as them. For example I can morally condemn HAMMAs for some of their genocidal language and the Oct 7 atrocity just as much as I can morally condemn Israeli Zionist devils for their genocidal language and 80 plus years of genocidal language and ethnic cleansing and the Al Nakba. Assuming that there's only 2 options, and there's only 1 group/person/thing to morally condemn is false.

@Nivsch Is this before or after IDF kept Palestinians prisoners without charge, indefinitely, and some getting limbs amputated?