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@Vrubel Bra, we are talking about Israel news, and like how they quickly spread manufactured likes in western media, and like earlier Palestinian news and anything countering Israel was like censored to a millionth time. Yah that social media, like insta and Tik Tik kinda increased coverage but that's later, and I'm speaking EARLIER BRA!

@Nivsch The main problem is that @Leo Gura demonstrated a balanced realistic take on this whole Israel/Palestine situation, and here you're claiming he's so biased against Israel and supportive of Palestine, with no evidence to support and corroborate your accusation. Why slander Leo like this? So one minute Leo's telling you what you like to hear, but when he shows support for Palestine for a moment he's very biased???

@Vrubel So please don't focus in on Israel, buy my attempts to obfuscate and omit truth as I speak!

@Vrubel So everywhere else but Israel?

@Nivsch How is this a justified refutation to counter Israel's faster and wider propaganda spread in the mainstream huh?

@Vrubel How is that not true? How is @Leo Gura's perspective so skewed in comparison to your pro Israeli perspective? Is that really true that few people are Zionists? What about Netanyahu's cabinet, and those that elected him into power? Only a few Zionist Israelis huh? Why are you inverting the truth? Your Israel propaganda was spreading widely and rapidly in mainstream news outlets! Meanwhile Palestinian propaganda wasn't and was censored.

@Nivsch Nope, most of Israel's propaganda started mainstream western news with little challenge back, meanwhile propaganda from Palestinians were getting heavily censored from mainstream. Instagram and TikTok are not reliable numbers and indicators of how strong a propaganda spread is, as those 100m people you claim, with no evidence to back that up can be all bots and all fake accounts. I'm talking about the traditional and mainstream news here, not fucking social media alternative news.

@mmKay Nice. Mine is Myers Briggs personality types and the Big Five personality traits modal. Also Jane Loevinger's 9 stages of ego development.

So which is better for the economy: fiat money or coins?

@Nivsch Just because Israel's messages are reductionistic but doesn't mean they don't have truth behind them, doesn't mean they were edited and obfuscating and omitting some truth and information out of those messages. As if propaganda is time limited, in fact propaganda can continue onwards UNTIL EEVERYONE BELIEVES THE LIES! Hoe is thinking counter propaganda of Palestinians against Israel's propaganda 100 times the volume, when most of the west is canceling and censoring the Palestinians news coverage???😂🤣

@Alexop I don't know enough of Judith Butler to have an opinion on her, but IMO Judith Polgar is a very impressive chess grandmaster.

@ChadT Putting aside the whole Destiny derailing, I don't agree with your framing that Joe Rogan didn't push back hard enough when he did push back reasonably enough to not look like a crazy person to those who have a similar bias to Tucker. Keep in mind this is Joe's career, he cannot afford to be too aggressive to his guests when pushing back. Most podcasters make a living by recruiting special guests and hopefully guests that recurring to their podcasts.

@Raze No need to do a whole analysis about Destiny, when I have a few threads about Destiny already, with many other types of analysis on him:

@Bobby_2021 Completely agree, Piers Morgan is a fake lefty and a parasite, abandons the UK to grift in American soil. He is immature and ideologically biased and makes the guest look more mature minded. Piers Morgan appears adult in the room, yet when guest lays down the facts maturely, this disturbs him. He's a man child, in denial, how wild YouTube allows this little bile to file. I'll, as Slim Shady's child, point out Piers's ancestry: Morgan La Fay.

IMO reasonable take by Asmongold here: Which I mostly agree because Piers Morgan was character assassinating Hasan here, and bad faith tactics and manipulating him, and presenting some false dilemmas and false dichotomy here. Main point I agree with Asmongold is moral condemnation, which most people seem to assume it means a person is only allowed to morally condemn one group only, and not assume that some members of the same side can also have the mental capacity to also denounce morally parties on the same side as them. For example I can morally condemn HAMMAs for some of their genocidal language and the Oct 7 atrocity just as much as I can morally condemn Israeli Zionist devils for their genocidal language and 80 plus years of genocidal language and ethnic cleansing and the Al Nakba. Assuming that there's only 2 options, and there's only 1 group/person/thing to morally condemn is false.

@Nivsch Is this before or after IDF kept Palestinians prisoners without charge, indefinitely, and some getting limbs amputated?

@Bobby_2021 What would be a true liberal to you versus a person having some liberalism or being a fake liberal?

I honestly feel sorry for most normal Israelis and Gazans/Palestinians for getting dragged into this war and conflict. I condemn HAMMAs and the Israel eight wing Zionists for creating this situation to begin with. Honestly it pisses me off how much the top 10% of Israel Zionists are getting away with devilry like this, creating conditions for HAMMAs and other terrorist groups! If I was Rome I'd crucify both of them for causing such misery and suffering for most normal folk!

@Vrubel Of course you'd only want a level headed, apathy like letter of complaint, and a world where all protests are calm, peaceful and depressed-robotic, where all protestors are flowers that are well behaved because you don't want to EVER feel any empathy or compassion for the other side's misery right? Reminds me of this videos;

@Nivsch I partly agree that the pink hair guy was a bit calm, fair and reasonable, until he has moments of emotionality and was trying to attack Hassan's claim on the whole hostage situation from HAMMAs when IDF also were holding West Bank/Gazans as hostages in the past and current situation too, so it's a hypocritical point. What claims was that blonde Jewish-sorry Israeli Zionist-woman right on in the panel? Why are you cherry picking Hassan as just repeating buzz words when he was also trying to explain those buzz words, and was being interrupted by said blonde woman and even Piers? How was Piers fair when he invited the Crackhead woman in the intro to poison the well for the pro Palestinians and present them as crazy deranged lunatics when there are some valid points being made against the IDF's actions in this current event in Gaza? From destroying 80% of Gaza, to using more dumb bombs than smart bombs on hospitals, and finally to Israeli defense minister and even Netanyahu using genocidal language to smear all of Palestinians?

@zurew The sheer amount of weaseling, dodging and deflecting questions and argument points, resorting to many kinds of fallacies and appeals to both popularity, authority and logos to discredit reasonable challengers. That and normalizing slander and defamation online, for instance defaming Normand Finkelstein in Twitter with some of his posts containing insults and targeted harassment, yet very few acknowledge he's slandering him ever since that Lex Fridman 5 hour long podcast. Also Lex Fridman's podcast of him was suspiciously framed to bias for Destiny against Normand's side when the historical evidence is all there to corroborate and support Normand's side of the argument.

@Raze I mostly agree in terms of arguing and debating, albeit the nature of arguing/debating is the arguer trying to establish frame control, optics, and be more persuasive and convincing, It was never about TRUTH, but the SURVIVAL OF YOUR IDEOLOGY VIA ARGUING. So yes I mostly agree the weaseling, dodging and deflecting and other fallacies Destiny strings doesn't paint him in a good light. Some people with a praising or level take on Destiny are those who are introduced and view his last 1-3 years and think he's so reasonable on just those years when the majority of his past is sketchy and very weaselly at best. Main problem is Destiny positions himself as a public figure with strong intellectual liberty and freedom when it's his entire career of public outrage and winning debates in the most bad faith way.

@Bobby_2021 That's partly true to a degree, they're a type of liberal that's hard to neatly categorize. Important to not that not all blue hairs are made equal, exception being Destiny. Some blue hairs do support Palestine as well.😂

@Leo Gura I'm Sorry if I and other users seem it looked like I'm 'dragging you' into a Destiny drama, but you first interjected here: To my post below: ' Not necessarily. Someone can also be both intelligent and wisdom with some demagoguery, for example the Buddha was apparently really good at debating and convincing even spiritual masters in different circles and is also spiritually talented. IMO he's both wisdom and charisma mixed together. But I agree Tucker's obviously a demagogue with little intelligence and self awareness. Just like Destiny Divorcelli.' It felt like you were attacking me first and I had to defend myself there. Also, if you don't want to get dragged into drama, then you have to do some research yourself into the character that is Destiny then. I assume when you say 'From everything I have heard Destiny say, he has reasonable, grounded, and nuanced positions, moreso than most leftists.' what is this based on? the last 2-3 years of Destiny? Because I'm an ex fan of his for roughly a decade and I can tell you straight up he is being deceptive here intentionally, intentionally disingenuous here! 'You don't have to agree with him on everything to acknowledge that. Destiny does a good job of understanding conservative positions, unlike much of the left who act like the left is always correct no matter what.'. Again, on what basis do you have to say this? Because it's one thing to be genuine but it's another thing when a person is being deceptive and intentionally charismatic and rhetoric and optics secure to say all that just for the clicks and views and public support. Destiny is actually not for the TRUTH, but Destiny's whole game is to ALWAYS win arguments and ensure the survival of his IDEOLOGY.

@Vrubel Sorry, but if you represent Israel it's a disgusting place then if they have to lie to themselves this deeply.