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Also, depending on your visualization skills, you can focus on an object you construct in your mind and achieve the same if not similar state.

Nice! I've experienced similar while staring at a corner of a room until it became vivid.

I hope you get out of this rut your in. Been through worse, so hang in there.

@Rasheed Has porn ruined Leo's life?

@SoonHei (Deep inhale)...10.

@PlayTheGame Life is full of paradoxes. For you to even see an object, your mind had to invert an image that your eyeball captures from light. Anyways, how are you doing so far with your DP/DR?

@ilyas dolliazal Hi there! I'm doing fine so far. We've had some progress since that time.

The ego runs as deep as the run in Spider's Solitaire.

I wouldn't recommend Datura to my enemies. That's how dangerous it is. Either Psilocybin mushroom for the visual hallucinations, or Salvia for understanding deeper psychosis in those patients. Angel's trumpet tea is probably enough. Thanks for correction.

@pluto What you just described is almost true. Depending on the energetic fields around the ego, that field repels/attracts certain entities. Interactions with natural/artificial substances can complicate these interactions further, and some substances can allow invocations of entities when taken on high concentrations ( machine elves on DMT, insectiods on Saliva and sentient locations on Datura). I wouldn't be surprised that one day, a synthetic man made substance, delirium or otherwise, could act like the behelit from Berserk, forcefully ripping open a gateway for a variety of entities to invoke fully into you, across many dimensions. And the sacrifice is you and your surroundings, for that many Insights to happen.

@andyjohnsonman That's ok, let yourself explore other options. If contemplating is putting too much tension and headache, go do letting go/ do nothing meditation. It isn't a long journey for nothing.

@mp22 You've raised a good point. I didn't noticed that before...

I voted neutral, but actually it's been quite good for me. I'm introverted and mostly keep to myself, and this year I isolated myself a bit more from people so I don't really freak out over the lock down here. I also have some OCD over cleanliness so it's weirdly normal for me to isolate and explore myself all over.

@andyjohnsonman That's good! The LSD trip acted like a preview to what your journey looks like later. It took something like LSD to briefly untangle these mental strips this 'I' clouds all over the place to appreciate how your life or this world isn't just dualities, it's more than that.

@andyjohnsonman Nothing wrong with the drawing, but thinking makes it so.

@andyjohnsonman For a newbie, it's A. For someone that's intermediate, it could either be A or B for Them. For an expert, beginning to be more into liberation, either both A and B are true, or A and B are neither the case. Keep going in this journey, and every possibility of AB and not AB were contingent on a belief of 'I', and no 'I' makes it at least more clearer than when you were at in the beginning.

It's only feeding your subconscious mind more bullshit. In this case, disturbing bullshit. At some point, you might want to cut this stuff out, because it's easy to desensitize yourself and create an addiction to it.

Isn't this a breaching privacy guidelines?

I've done this challenge for 90 days and I do recommend giving it a go. I've experienced lots of energy and freshness while it lasted. Just be careful not to jump straight to freezing temperatures without the gradual exposure, you'll get frost bite and severe aches in you joints ,and for men, sudden shrinkage of penis. Any women reading feel free to share.

@PlayTheGame Salvia isn't really a psychedelic, it's a delirient. It's like confusing cocaine, hard drug, for Psilocybin mushrooms, a psychedelic, and guess how dangerous that would be to misidentify some substance. It's not good to take if you do have severe DP/Dr of any other disorder. Delirients are poisonous plants as well. Datura is a classic delirient that's lethal.

Before awakening, type box, make videos. After awakening, type box, make videos. Also, the void written isn't the void.

I'm happy this thread has managed to tackle awakening without going into a non duality war.

@PlayTheGame As long as the psychedelics and spiritual techniques you're doing are not over the top, then it might be safe to continue while under DP/DR. If DP/DR is at an intense degree, then either tone down psychedelics/spiritual methods, opt out psychedelics for regular meditation or stop and take a break for a while. If the disorder is that serious, seek help. And thanks for posting, I sometimes need self hugs too. @arlin It may be either a higher degree of DP/DR, or you are suffering from mild DP/Dr but also experience another disorder or a situation that's creating this anxiety on top of DP/DR. If it's not too much, dial back the self inquiry/psychedelics/other methods and switch to regular meditation. If it's severe, seek professional help. One last thing, do not do Salvia if you experience intense forms of DP/Dr and any other disorder, period. End of discussion.

@PlayTheGame I think it depends on how experienced you are with spirituality and meeting spiritual masters face to face. Meeting these masters is important because the issue is not about awakening, it's about getting examples in real time, because that can help you develop an intuition on who is and isn't awake. However, Because awakening is like enlightenment, which is beyond one's mind, then it's important to go and directly interact with such people. Have you met Leo in person? Because if all you have of Leo is only the videos you see of him, then it is not sufficient. There are many factors that causes a person to change, in this case Leo's radical skepticism to close minded authoritarian claims of being more awake/ that spiritual teacher is not awake. However, that's insufficient to dismiss him outright because such a dismissal is out of personal style. Criticism of Leo isn't just because his authoritarian style and claims, it's also about how some topics, warnings and bans are handled by moderators, and the quality of such threads, and personal dogmas against mods/Leo, among many other factors besides Leo's style. I think Leo's rebuttals to some of these criticisms are not sufficient to say Leo is intentionally malicious on dismissing criticisms, it's because if you read some of these criticisms carefully, they are small and illogical to take seriously. If you're having problems dealing with the forum, then it's treating this forum anything else than this way: search for high quality materials, verify the materials, review if such materials work or not, and repeat, keeping in mind forum guidelines and treating users lightly, like how in Chinese Go (Weigi, Shodan, Baduk) stones are sometimes treated lightly in a game, otherwise if stones are heavy(too many stones in one area, too inefficient) risks over concentration and if those stones die, that's alot of points lost.

While it's possible, Because China still maintains bio weapons labs and also treats most of their wild life in their food markets like trash, it's not likely. Around the 1950's, most of the Chinese population were starving, they didn't have enough domestic animals to feed off of. The government then legalized hunting and serving wild life as food. Later, along with the paranoia of dealing with capitalism and competing with western military, they kept their bio labs operational. That's about 70 years worth of 'habit' that the Chinese collective ego operates on. Nowadays, to an outside culture, that's already a bad habit to outgrow (with environmental movements and most military moving on from on bio weapons application). The Chinese culture has a long way to go to outgrow their food markets and current military practices. It worked very well then, not so much now.