Danioover9000

@Raptorsin7 They always had a shaky cam in their vids?

@Knowledge Hoarder If you think about it, it makes sense, if behind the scenes Donald was partly backed by Putin financial speaking. The main motivation for the invasion of Ukraine would still be to deny Ukraine joining NATO, but I think partly it was to put political pressure on Biden and give more opportunity for Trump or the Republicans a few more chances against Biden.

@mandyjw Well, from the limited context and information I have, I have to assume you are behaving cult like for the first half of your speech. But I don't see how this place is a cult, I can freely come and gofrom this place, a typical cult leader won't allow this, Leo sucks at being a cult leaader, sorry. People who keep using this point to attack are dreaming, deluded, in denial and are too sunk cost in fallacy and in their positions to see how dumb that attack is really. If anything, Youtube drama Reactionaries have more similarities to a cult leader than Leo, how they band wagon and sat and do stuff to excite their followers they have. Way more similarities to a cult.

@Thought Art I think he meant with calling it elitist, is that there are barriers of entry to accessing the necessary psychedelics, at volume and at certain levels of intensity, that it's not easy to go through wothout having the extra cash for it,because it depends on your value system, cognitive and moral development, personality traits,states of being and general and specific life experiences and genetics that will act sometimes as barriers of entry. For example, if your value system is more stage blue and less stage orange, have an American cultural upbringing, worldview of a boomer, cognitively cllose minded in general, morally an absolutist, sees world more in binaries, is too habituated with normal states of being, has limited emotional range, has few general and specific life experiences outside of the USA, is middle to low class, has a wife and children to look after, intimacy problems, too busy at work, a few hard core addictions and several or so soft addictions to work through, has a hobby, health and fitness declining and needs attention, less frey matter in brain to develop more open mindedness, and has low intrapersonal intelligence to be aware of a potential ideological view of spirituality and psychedelics, well it becomes already an uphill battle for such a person to do the work needed.

@mandyjw That's kind off a limiting definition of a cult, so at any point I call Neo advaita to any spiritual topic I disagree with? It's more of a way to deflect and rebut a point, but that's rhetorical rather than a cult. A basic explanation of a cult, is that a cult leader or recruiter isolates the new member in their compound, then slowly over time breaks down their old identity to a society/culture and old life they were living, further seperating them from their friends, family, community, while slowly building in them a new identity towards being in the cult, being a follower of a cult leader, using various manipulation techniques to break down old identity and construct new identity. The cult leader is especially narcissistic, may have degrees of sociopathy and psychopathy, and is neurotic and fears the loss of control over each member of the cult. So how is this place a cult, when each member still has self agency and autonomy to leave whenever they want to? How is Leo Gura a cult leader, when he mostlt gives warnings and disclaimers against turning this work into an ideology, warns against dangers of spiritual work? No actual cult leader is this self defeating.

@Inliytened1 Can we agree at this point that denial is infinite? I see there being no compromise between you two at this point.

@K Ghoul I'm not defending him, I've warned him several times in the past myself about have more brevity and better writing, but he hasn't changed. So really, if you don't like the user and their post, ignore him. I'm also not speaking only to you, but to other users in general of this ADD tendency to not like anything lengthy, it's an interesting pattern to point out, but I'm not attacking anything.

@zurew I can imagine it, it would be like the Lord of the Rings books heavy with the details and settings. I'm not defending @Fleetinglife, I'm just pointing out a pattern, that for some people that holds true, that they need to appreciate a wall of text as is. Historically speaking, in the times of ancient Greece, and probably latin, they didn't have punctuation and grammar with their scrolls, and no spacing between symbols, so it literally was a wall of text that had to be red and interpreted as such. Yes, there was a time we didn't have punctuation and grammar and had walls of text, in scroll form.

@vizual That's a bit too harsh. Everyone has different learning curves and learn like A.I, trial and error. He'll sooner or later be a pretty decent mod.

@SOUL We can say that societies and cultures at large do have some cultish elements to them, in reaction to differences in cultural values, moral frameworks of the population taught and ingrained, and various cognitive developments in each in group and out group, how they think, what collective states they experience day to day. We can see this more with smaller groups, both currently and in the past like with Charles Manson and Osho's Rajneesh compound, although in Osho's case in more his second in command that orchestrated attempts to take over Oregon county and political positions. However, to me it's more obvious that there is much more cult like dynamics with Youtube reactionaries that feel the need to stir up drama, gossip and rumours, and clip out and take out of context pieces of information and misinterpret what is really being said properly for the views, and getting followers along the band wagon, versus a personal development website owner, who covers topics found in self help, but also philosophy, metaphysics, epistemology, non duality, spirituality, psychedelics use for personal development, who has repeatedly warned and had disclaimers in the description boxes down below each video against misuse, misunderstanding and not turning this work into a blind ideology. Again, no offense to Leo Gura, he lacks the qualities necessary to be a powerful cult leader. Those who are trying to make him out as a cult leader, are really not seeing that if he was a genuine cult guy, he would suck at it. I'd be familiar with what makes a cult leader a proper cult leader first, before accusing a person of being a cult leader, right?

@SOUL Yeah, I get that I'm the only one that exists, and everything is imaginable on the absolute level and relative levels. But honestly, no offense to Leo Gura, he sucks at being an actual cult leader. If we made a low to high tier of cult leaders, Leo's on the bottom tier easily. He can't compete witb the likes of Charles Manson or Donald Trump cult wise, so accusing him of being a cult is delusional and intellectually lazy. To me it's just bad and stupid with some individuals trying to build a case that Leo or Actualized.org is a cult, without realizing the foundation for sucb a case being built is on top of a sink hole. It's also not surprising, taking into account where they come from, their value sustem, cognitive and moral development, personality traits, states of being and consciousness, and other lines of development, and other areas if regression being projected.

@zurew I partly agree with that, it just resembles complaints to Leo for giving hours lengthy videos. I think it's probably that most people don't have enough toleramce and patience to read a long text anymore, due to the increased prevalence of ADD from prolonged use of social media.

@axiom @K Ghoul You have to learn to apreciate and read long texts to deeply grasp what is being written here.

@Inliytened1 I thought the gist of his criticism was purely for attention, rumo, gossip and drama. Or was it just mainly him accusing Leo of being a cult leader?

@SOUL Why are we even taking this drama seriously? I thoight we were done talking about Solipsism here. @Inliytened1 what was his criticism boiled down to?

@Fleetinglife Nice share.

@zurew I guess until humanity develops a hive mind globally, then chances of us resolving environmental issues will probably be slow, because it depends on so many factors, like the value systems indoctrinated from culture and upbringing, to cognitive and moral development, personality traits loosely, the states of being and consciousness on a mass scale loosely, to overall general and specific life experiences and other lines of development that make up a society like technology, economics, education, history, science, all leading up to some kind of unification, consciously and technologically.

@PurpleTree No tree, that's too high! You need to chill immediately! Take the temp down!

Great, so by definition a 1st world democracy is full of psychopaths in the perspective of an authoritarian regime, and the authoritarian regime along with it's dictator full of psychopaths to democracy. We have gone nowhere, and have successfully maintain our survival agendas of demonising the other, at both the individual level of ego, to the collective ego.

@rnd Other than a few weird examples, and the subject matter being easily misunderstood, I found it slightly weak compared to his other older videos on other advanced topics, those ones were way more triggering than the recent video. You'll have to have watched his older videos on spirituality and philosophical ideas to understand what I mean. Wothout going into specifics, the objections addressed were too narrow for me and didn't address some broader objections to Solipsism, or those who led a life without knowing they were or have a Solipsistic worldview. For example, in his older video on laziness, he addressed issues with if you are too lazy, but in that same video, he also covers a little bit on if you are being too busy and too workaholic too as well. In this sense, that video lacked that breadth a bit, but it doesn't deserve this drama, at least to me it's not that bad. You guys are not really missing out on much, other than not satisfying that craving for another video.

@mandyjw Yes, like if someone had an overeating problem, they likely need to put down the fork, like that.

@mandyjw Off topic, but do you think a large part of why this place is a 'cult' is because of some people unable to put down a video?

@Thought Art You have a nice profile. Did you make it yourself?

@Mindflow Sounds very interesting.

@JuliusCaesar It is all very counterintuitive, and interesting. To me it's like a magnetic field, one gigantic field that contains many smalller fields in it, pushing and pulling here and there, all while underpinned by one magnetic field. Update: I have done something very interesting, and almost achievedthe impossible. I talked about the merging technique before here, and I've also done partial merging with Crysty where she draws an object using my left hand. I extended that to her partially using my left eye, and to see from her point of view from one eye, while I maintained my point of view from the other eye. It was more difficult than with the left hand, as this isn't as trained, but I was able to better super impose an object she sees onto paper. It was a difficult, sometimes disorienting but very interesting experience. I felt slightly more psychic visually by doing this.