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@Majed Not really.

@Ayham Don't take what Leo says too personal, he's on some aliens level of consciousness and hyper metaphorical moral relativist post modernist understandings or stuff like that.😂 Yes it's fine to interpret your religion via stage blue, which is mostly literal categorical thinking in binaries and what is literally written in the Quran, but also it's possible to metaphorically think and interpret the other passages less literally and more metaphorically and context relative. For example the literal interpretation of it being halal to eat pork meat, comes from when the emissaries first witnessed the living conditions of pig livestock from Europeans, and assuming that most pigs intentionally live in their own shit and cover themselves in mud therefore unclean. I'm even willing to bet that then it's much harder to cure meat therefore pig meat spoils and when you eat spoiled meat it leads to digestive diseases like diarrhea which was very difficult then to treat, so the prophets simply made it forbidden to eat such an animal. Yet when you zone out and really look at pigs, actually pigs had to cover themselves in mud and even their own shit because they live in enclosures and when the climate gets hotter they need to cool off, and naturally pigs and wild pigs for the most part actually don't cover themselves in shit if they don't have to, but because they're in enclosures they had to, and due to one misinterpretation and misperception by one prophet the entire animal species get's demonized in future generations without knowing fully why it's demonized in the first place. And of course, every civilization, tribe, starting points of empires and religions can and do turn violent, as per design by the god/devil, and as a consequence of Spiral Dynamics stages of development going from stage purple, to red and blue. The prior Arabic culture before Islam was pretty radical and had normalized their own culture, so in their perspective Islam then, especially the first 3 caliphates were radical to follow, and they believed in quite a number of deities so the unification under caliphate Islam, by force and warfare, makes sense and is a consequence of a past culture defending itself from assimilation into some religion it resisted. Yes Islam especially then was very much stage blue and red when it's warring with other cultures and when it's destroying cultural artifacts.

11. Daniel Schmachtenberger's take on Eric Fromm's quote, a person who's a psychologist and philosopher, and his take on optimism is just SO WRONG! And of course AS IT SHOULD BE WRONG! Eric Fromm just sounds like to me another pessimist naive realist with naive takes on the power of optimism, faith, and hopeful outlook. Even now there's some scientific studies that show that having a more optimistic outlook in life is better overall for your own health, having a positive outlook is much better for even mental health! WTF is this demonization and downplaying of optimism?! So disappointed about his takes on optimism!

@zazen Yes, specifically when stage blue reaches it's excess and becomes blindly ideological and dogmatic is when that exclusion reaches it's zenith and sometimes beyond it's zenith. Simultaneously, some healthy stage blue is still necessary for civilization unification and formation. Some cohesion under a unifying vision is still important otherwise we'd still have hundreds of tribes with fringe worldviews practicing live human sacrificing like the Aztec empire or like the tribe in Gehenna live sacrificing children via burning them to worship a god called Moloch, among many immoral and weird worldviews that're difficult to unify. Despite how evil the Roman empire were, stage blue/red and red specifically in times of war, the Mongol empire, even Macedonia and Alexander the great's time, those were still important events even if the losers were enslaved or had to migrate elsewhere or even killed off AKA how Rome burned down Carthage, the majority of the survivors, the winners and losers, and the descendants of the winners and even the losers still benefit from those earlier empires regardless of how screwed up they were when they treated the losers. In that case it's also a case that proves collective ego and how group ego and Egregors strive for survival and strive to feast off of the group's attention and worship of those entities long ago.

Wes Watson is actually has decent advice for those wanting to master stage orange values, this guy's good for masculinity advice and he's good for embodying stage orange values from if that's your shadow. Despite Andrew Wilson's Christian nationalist and religious take on Watson being so hyper material and unspiritual, and some slanderous takes, in terms of Spiral Dynamics stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits, 9 stages of ego development, shadow aspects by Carl Jung's Architypes, other lines of development by Ken Wilbur's Integral Theory, ideological beliefs indoctrinated by society and cultural programing, information ecology we consume, and our worldviews, biases and preferences. IMO and my view Andrew Wilson and his panel of far right nationalists, or conservatives/traditionalists have little say in giving advice to young men, Wes Watson is a better stage orange advice for young men to aspire towards, because Andrew Wilson, going on some dates, finding your partner for life, being and going to social events with your partner's family, socializing, then going through the marriage, then being a father or parent yourself, having to spend 15 years to life without parole providing, protecting and caring for your devilish daughters and sons, god forbid if your children have mental disorders that's a nightmare, tackling taxes and debts and finding your life purpose and career and sorting your financial situation and education and so many other factors, you are inadequate for the average young male out there.

@Twentyfirst He actually an Atheist?!😭 It is what it is I guess...

Also, point 10 is Daniel Schmachtenberger is too complicated, too nuanced for the majority of the population. So complicated that what I fear has happened in YT and even HERE! That we're just blindly believing in what he says just because it's too complicated to unpack, so we just believe what he's saying. I saw a HUGE LACK of criticism in Daniel Schmachtenberger's consilience project YT channel, and in Nate Hagen's Channel. It's like it's filled with a bunch of yes men and hippies just nodding along....

@zazen TRUE! It's insane this is even reality!

@Gennadiy1981 GTFO my back stalker, and save your apologia nonsense. Go save your country from the Likud party Zionists, instead of throwing at me a wall of text!

@CARDOZZO I highly disagree it's a plus 1 for wisdom when: 1. He made points against Christiandom. Here's a question: would you rather it be Christians or the caliphate Islam that were also spreading? Also, did you know that GB were the nly country that were anti slavery? 2. Cartoonish depictions of Genghis Khan's Mongolia, Alexander the great's empire and the Roman empire. 3. Daniel Schmachtenberger is wrong about sociopathy, what he described is psychopathy, not sociopathy. 4. There are good reasons why the winners are the winners today. I hate Schmachtenberger's beta male apologia for losers that, honestly, some deserve to lose. For example those that worshipped Moloch, who Schmachtenberger loves to quote for his meta crisis and arms race and shit, he forgets to include the historical context that Moloch is the name of the deity in the region of Gehenna that the tribe there loved to sacrifice children, by burning them alive. Sorry but choose a freaking better name than some god that loves sniffing the burnt remains of children thank you very much! 5. Fantasy of making Game B a reality. Well, in reality realistically it's nearly impossible to expect everyone to abandon Game A for game B. Daniel underestimates the power of selfishness and the grand design GOD has for selfishness. Even the true self, the Atman, is fundamental of selfishness!. 6. Again, some losers deserve to die out, as per nature and natural selection. For example the Aztec empire, yes EMPIRE not TRIBE! They lost to the Spanish there for good reason: because the neighboring tribes were fed up with their warriors and some of their women/children getting live sacrificed via ripping their still beating hearts! They formed a coalition, which the Spanish then were diplomatic enough to do, and do away with the Aztecs. 7. Again, I feel like he's hating on Christians more so than normal. I hope he realizes that areas were Christians were a minority were not treated kindly. 8. Thinking that merely hygiene and plumbing is enough to defeat the mighty Covid-19 pandemic! Yes folks, don't get vaccinated, don't wear masks, yes Schmachtenberger, that's 10 points of silliness for the anti vaxxers! Cleanliness defeats germs and viruses guys! Wish you could tell the CCP and communist China that, a bunch of 'dirty' wet market advocating 'peoples'. Never knew how fragile Covid really was huh?! That denial is soooooo DDDEEEEEEPPPPPP! 9. Following that Covid-19 trite, we settle on dental issues by eating grains! So in his wisdom, we all should eat meats only then? Organ meats too?

@Chadders Okay, let me reframe your post. Should we limit global population levels? I think this is going to be very hard to do, given that most 3rd world countries, most religious theocracies that are not westernized and secular/humanist societies in the west will not capitulate unless threatened to do so. The main reason why is that these stage blue to stage purple theocratic societies like in Africa and in places in the middle east will continue to have stable birthrates, and will try to make larger families as is incentivized by their value system. Here in fact in most westernized modern secular/humanist societies that uphold liberalism and egalitarianism and multiculturalism to a fault are suffering from their own shortages of birthrate declines such that their own nations have to import from those 3rd world theocratic countries to maintain threshold numbers of populations to run that western country smoothly. Because of this I'd say if you said this post to those in theocratic societies, and even to 1st world western democrats they'd disagree with you wanting some globalism of numbers controlling populations across the world, of course for each of their own motivated reasons. The next problem with this is that this is a common anti natalist talking point, which again is a deluded form of liberalist and feminist thinking. Really the anti natalist position is from those very empowered feminists who just don't want babies, and will go along with whatever pseudo scientific thinking like too many people in one place to support any idea of lessening babies being made, because they don't care that their own western nation is in decline due to lower declines in native birthrates of their own populations. They also get to say this because egalitarianism and tolerance of speech. I dare you to suggest this to say a caliphate Islam area, the idea of stopping the birthrate of not just your own people, but their people as well. I promise they'd yell you off and maybe throw some stones at you for suggesting something so wildly ridiculous to them.

@Chadders I'm saying emulate Andrew's winner and fighting spirit. Obviously not what he exactly does, just his fighting spirit. He used to be a good kick boxer, have a fighter soul. That's my message to youths, develop your masculine energy a bit!

@Nemra I'd rather most youths have his will power, than most youths be cowards! That's the most important lesson Andrew Tate can ever transmit to you, will power and drive! Don't be a coward in life! Unfortunately most younger people are getting more cuckoldry, more into polyamorous degenerate BS, and are more afraid that EVER! I hate seeing how the internet is destroying people's lives like this!

@Rafael Thundercat Straw man me one more time...

@Basman Yes, tell that to Daniel Schmachtenberger and people like him that have high lofty ideas. Honestly if you're going to tell me that naive techno optimism is evil and wrong, therefore optimism is evil and wrong, then you're just wrong fundamentally speaking. OPTIMISM IS SO POWERFUL!

I feel like I'm talking to old people, to a bunch of 30's, 40's, 50s year olds. Like do you guys not know the value of youth??? Have you lost what is most important to youths??? People like Andrew Tate, his drive, his passion, his will power is what's needed for such young people!!! No, not exactly his scheming or his other bits, just that WILL POWER!

@Evan Gill I agree, but be careful not turning into some cult or some preacher now and trying to convert others into your religion. That's when it gets dangerous.

@Chives99 Why generalize to Abrahamic religions instead of saying caliphate Islam mainly? Also most religions have that degree that if you blindly believe and worship just because your family or friends or community do that so you just copy that group's behavior, then there's bound to be some separation. Don't expect god consciousness or whatever @Leo Gura's Awakening teaching is name is. In practice, if you want by default god consciousness you're guaranteed to be in an Asylum. You cannot go through live with that level of consciousness.

Also, the more you know the better you are I guess:

@Chadders I agree, I do have a Christian bias, and I know my history in regards with Islam and their caliphate, the levels of slavery they do, the destroying of other cultural icons. Trust me be glad we're not living under caliphate Islam it's much worse than living under Christianity!😂

I actually got angry, I wish I had the time stamp, maybe in the case study of conquerors Daniel mentioned stuff about the spreading of Christendom. I'm sorry but hard disagree because what was the alternative Schmachtenberger??? Caliphate Islam??? You mean that religion that destroys idols, cultural statues, art works, that practice massive slavery of others??? Yeah hard disagree here man!

While these are great talks, and are so stage yellow, I think these types of people underestimate how powerful optimism really is. I actually think Daniel Schmachtenberger is underestimating it's power, along with open mindedness: I just really hate this blind belief and worship of these hyper intellectual geniuses whilst not really understanding or appreciating what they're talking about.

@universe I agree, you should tell that to those stage yellow thinkers like Nate Hagens and Daniel Schmachtenberger. Especially his takes on optimism which I actually disagree with. Optimism is powerful, and naive realism is actually more dangerous.

This is what Tik Tok brain looks like. Minimize your usage of social media or you end up like Elon the 'Xaren' Musk.

@Yimpa Sorry, he said everyone, implying personhood, and personhood is human exclusive, therefore it's mostly people, not including ants, that are mostly corrupt. Ants are a whole other species and they aren't as invincible as you think because fungus can destroy ants, other ants destroy other ants, they even get confused by their bio chemical trails leading to death spirals, and so on.