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@Juan No.

@Raze Very unfortunate this talk was banned from mainstream discussion. Shows how deeply biased people really are, Scientists included.

@Carl-Richard Not to say all short form cintent is fully bad or evil, I guess when done right, maybe it's a it'd marketing and promotion tool. Or, some people are born and develop ADD/ADHD that it's another creative angle. There's another issue,of derermining what information garbage is being put into ine's mind. From what I've consumed, there's not a lot of educational information in short format, and magnitudes more entertainment monkey mind stimulation instead. It's like the breaking news or tabloids on steroids.

@Carl-Richard Tik Tok has brought some unique problems to those that consume shorts, especially for hours un place of proper rest or engagemnt in hobbies: increased neurosis, and false expectations of fast=valued. Not specific to Tik Tok, but over consumption of social media, the garbage junk food variety, declines the focusing ability of the mind to upvalue some pip culture trend, or socual norm standard, whilst down valueing basic self help techniques, as simple as reading, writing, exercising, meditating, contemplating, journaling and so on. What's worse is that most social media websites now have to copy the format of Tik Tok to stay somewhat competitive, because who or what business wants to lose out? So, it's a vicious cycle of a group being incentivised to copy a bad format for competitive advantage, and making many trade offs in the process. There's also national security risk behind Tik Tok as well.

@Rishabh R Well, hopefully you learn from this situation. There's a good reason why 'Silence is golden' and 'loose lips sinks ships' and 'don't cast pearls before swine': by babbling and talking about Actualized.org teachings to your social circle or family recklessly, without being careful and considering of whether communicating what you learned is right for each person, without knowing and getting the feel for their values system, cognition, morality, states, and their life experiences so far, you risk triggering them to be close minded, and antagonize them unnecessarily towards self help, further alienating them from doing inner work becauseof a strange bald guy's crazy take, especially if Leo Gura is the first introduction to self help and personal development(no offense Leo). By foolishly talking, you make yourself a fool with a target for criticism, trolling and hating. Why? Because most people are okay, and docile by society to just maintain a mediocre lifestyle. Most are okay with that and don't like people pointing out they could be able to do more, and some really love the comfort of a simple, sometimes boring life. Some people aren't like that and decide to pursue a bit more, discover personal development. Learn to discipline your lups, and persue personal development in private, and if you really have to talk, really know who you're talking too and are in some relationship with, not just a stranger or some coworker, on a name basis or work basis. I mean this is all common sense and indoctrinated into my head to do this at this point, but it's really worth knowing the person you're talking to. Do you just give your credit card and pin to a stranger, and not expect to get robbed? Yeah, treat Actualized.org like that, be careful next time. Take care!

@Schizophonia You mean nagging at Leo?

@Carl-Richard Probably!?

@DocWatts Nice post, Also, stage yellow-turquoise and beyond, maybe coral, may not have ideologies per say. What makes have a non-ideology an ideology, is when you find yourself clinging to that idea and concept of a non-ideology. For example, if you are agnostic, and you become dogmatic and defensive when agnosticism is questioned, agnosticism and being agnostic is an ideology then.

@r0ckyreed Basically, if you mostly feel not ready, don't have children, you may regret it. Personally, it's a no for me to have a family, I can feel the energy and time going into that is a negative more than a positive.

@r0ckyreed My thoughts, are that it depends on stages of development and the value system you hold, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits, states of consciousness, life/lived experiences so far, other lines of development in various areas of life, and ideologies indoctrinated into you from birth and upbringing. I would say stay open minded and consider just the major issues and some minor ones in your context, what impact a person would have fathering children in, for example a traditional nuclear family unit in this earth more, what contributions potential could be made, positively or negatively, to society and the world. Also, helpful to think like a father, and do various visualizations of you being a Dad, and invest 15+ years of parenting. Does it make you uncomfortable, or does it make you a bit motivated to go and become a Dad? Also, any Ego development issues, and shadows around the father should be dealt with in psychotherapy before becoming a Dad yourself, because highly likely you will have a self fulfilling prophesy of any traumas or limitations of your own Father.

@Bojan V Actually, Jordan Peterson became famous firstly for that televised news with that woman first, with a few videos of him talking to SJWs.

@Schizophonia It's quite reasonable to be upset with most people. I was triggered when I saw a team of wood cutters cut down a tall tree next to a school. I was a bit angry because the Sparrows, robins and some Magpies would, in spring and summer, choose to nest there. It triggered my misanthropic view of humanity, and I embraced it until it got away.

@Emotionalmosquito Yeah, I agree that that can be a bit tricky to deal with. Probably why enthusiastic consent should be practiced over time. Of course, solid PUA techniques, especially kino escalation, already tells enough whether the girl you're cold approaching is receptive and interested in you or not.

@Ulax Thanks!

@Rafael Thundercat Yes, he has some good psychological take, but very low political takes. Got to separate the wheat from the chaff .

@Someone here I hope he's okay. Maybe he finally listened to some of us and took a break from the forum? I'm going with this until he himself or someone close to him confirms otherwise.

@Chives99 Based on stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits, states of consciousness, life and lived experiences so far, and other lines of development in various domains of life, and ideologies indoctrinated from birth and upbringing, what you or another person loves, and what your in group and their out group loves, have different degrees and types. Just because you or some other person has radical levels of cognition, morality, values, states of being, and life experiences does not mean they lack love, it means their love they have internally for themselves, and the love they can express outwardly varies. Just because some radicals who have stage purple-red values does not mean they have no love or extreme lack of love, they still have love, but differently in degree and type from you and your culture. Love is mostly relative. Yes, there's Absolute love, ultimately, and GOD is completely impartial to all human dealings of love. However, among humans, love is highly weaponized and corrupted by human biases and preferences.

@Shawn Philips Twerking is designed to be super cringe attempts of turning people on. It's just a desperate attempt to burn bum fat off.

@D2sage That's great. If there's a way to block sites like Tik Tok and other social media sites who now have shorts, it may be fine. I voraciously consume Wikipedia pages about the world and history and biographies of legendary figures in history. I sometimes look into the etymology of words too.

@Blackhawk Yeah, twerking is for the teenage girls and young women in gangsta cultures, or maybe pop culture, who want the D too desperately, that it's a turn off, In fact, twerking is anti sexually stimulating. Nothing stimulating or attractive about seeing rumps having a seizure attack.

Interesting podcast discussion of Tulpa:

I agree that Tik Tok is corrupting the youth, as well as general overconsumption of social media and it's design as a neurosis or Narcissism increasing machine. It does depend on Spiral Dynamics stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits, states of consciousness, and other lines of development in various areas of life, plus ideologies indoctrinated from upbringing. Let me take each argument some users have on this issue, and extremify, polarize, even bad faith and make uncharitable claims and reasoning for more clarity, and how I would structure those arguments more strongly: @D2sage Tik Tok is corrupting the children, 6-12 year old girls, classed as minors, are now twerking in Tik Tok shorts, and wearing skin tight outfits, and engaging in sexual innuendoes with those who view their content, as Tik Tok also had an OnlyFans but has recently taken it done due to multiple complaints in response to allegations of adult content of children. Tik Tok is evil, and it will corrupt the moral standards and integrity of these young children, as their minds are neuroplasticity enough that almost all ideas and concepts gets indoctrinated into their brains. Also, Tik Tok is corrupt and devilish because of how it can degrade focusing ability of the mind, therefore increasing cases of ADD/ADHD in the future generations. So, in the future, we would end up being okay with children acting over sexual in public. The only problem here, is that there are multiple sub arguments of this issue, we went from Tik Tok is corrupting the youth, 6 year old girls twerking, to an anecdotal statement of your sister, aged 6, who said other girls her age are now twerking on boys, don't know if it's live or on Tik Tok shorts, to Teachers teaching gender roles and gender pronouns and what or what not to identify as, to disagreeing with some part of their teaching method and them acting as secondary parents, to assuming anyone with children and families should care, to those who don't have children don't care, to making an unclear statement of an adult man would be in prison if someone hurts them(because there are also criminal cases of minor on minor violence, minor on minor sexual assaults and so on, not just adult on minor crimes), to India has blocked Tik Tok and assuming the cause was claims of shitty content, when another could be linked strongly to China and India's growing conflicts with each other. Main issue is, you're not being consistent with the main issue of Tik Tok corrupting the youth, and not linking how these other topics you bring up have any relation to how Tik Tok is corrupting the youth? @Kksd74628 I'm going to, almost like the OP, make many generalized statements, and take a flexible and weaselly looking position, and be moderate with my replies, even if, in some contexts and hypotheticals, I look stupid and sometimes enabling a bad situation into a worse one. For example, if I'm committed to being in this weasel position, I also accept that when a child is twerking on a boy, either in a Tik Tok short or in the room I'm in, I'm enabling those children to sexually experiment with each other. Hypothetically, I also must accept that ultimately, I'm enabling other extreme left teachers to teach LGBTQ ideologies into their brains, and other fringe ideas as well, that could psychologically effect their cognitive and moral development into the future, because I'm not willing to take a stronger stance. You, on the other hand, are being too weaselly with addressing the OP's argument points, adopting the frame of a moderate or agnostic. You claim we need to balance conservatism with liberalism, when the main topic was specifically about Tik Tok corrupting young minds, in a young age, altering their psyche, stage of development, cognitive and moral development, personalities, states of being, and other lines of development in various areas of life, plus indoctrinating ideologies into their young minds, giving them false expectations of how consumerism and capitalism works, expecting fast paced content, whilst degrading their ability to focus for deep work.

@Recursoinominado No, I'm not clueless to them fighting their cause for their minorities they want to represent more in mainstream, but they can't avoid the que problem, and due to the internet and how it can fractally develop echo chambers to proliferate ideological views, they mostly have a skewed and distorted view of the actual realities faced by those minorities, and either underestimate some who can will to power and overcome their obstacles, or overestimate and over hype a bad situation to look much more worse than it actually is. BLM and George Floyd is a good example of some of the progressive/socialist ideological and political views of that situation, how left leaning news outlets embellish George Floyd, and police brutality, whilst overestimating and overplaying the negatives of Kyle Rittenhouse situation, over hyping and weaponizing the facts, whilst the right wing media outlets defend and downplay the severity of systemic racism and other systemic issues, and downplay the left's interpretations of the facts of George Floyd situation and Kyle Rittenhouse situation. Both left and right ideologies polarizing and being bigots to each other, when the harsh, simple fact, is that George Floyd was harassing the store clerk verbally, clerk called cops, cops arrive to instigate, back and forth dialogue, cops try to de-escalate but George Floyd was escalating the situation, George Floyd resisting arrest, cops successfully restrained George to the ground, George still resisting, psycho cop then kneels one knee behind George Floyd's nape as he's a big person, those four cops did nothing to check the kneeling cop and swap places, George Floyd kept struggling until death. One local event, all this, filmed by some phones and cop footages, news media sensationalizes this event, that cop eventually is found guilty, but regardless this triggered a collective reaction and protests, mostly peaceful to violent, and BLM, happened, now a raising protest and civil unrest, with some rioting and looting and property damages, which made the police departments react and send in S.W.A.T teams to manage the situation, and right leaning groups to show solidarity and support of blue lives matter. While all this was happening, Kyle Rittenhouse decides to show support, by arming himself with a rifle, and a bag of water bottles and some basic med kit, for blue lives matter, which kick starts another situation, of self defense.

@Romanov They don't have a life purpose of their own, so they instead get offended, complain and assault people who look like they're culturally appropriating some other culture, when they should be working on their inner game. As I've said, it depends on the stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits, ego development, states of consciousness, life/lived experiences vs second hand knowledge, and other lines of development in different areas of life, and all the ideologies indoctrinated into your mind from upbringing, all those ideas imprinted onto your young mind, all the family's/cultural and personal beliefs imprinted into you. All that has to be comprehended, and dissolved into your field of awareness, integrated, and finally, both transcend and include those strengths and weaknesses.

Any updates on the Andrew Tate arrest?