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@Yimpa

@Yimpa Did you see this? Is this a health issue too?

What is all that skin action???

@Blackhawk I agree, just be and listen closely.

@DrugsBunny Which American conservative would kill queers? Are you saying that if society has no law to protect queers from getting killed, that American conservatives would still choose not to kill a queer?

@lostingenosmaze Oh the pun is so strong!?

@Blackhawk What if I'm not far away, but in Russia? Would that negate your assumptions of my perceived bias of an outsider and care? How does being outside of a thing obviously causes less seriousness and knowledge?

@ryandesreu Was it really a test? Did Biden confirm that it was a drill?

@Blackhawk Oh, you're from Finland? That explains a lot, no wonder you were more biased when talking of the Ukraine/Russia conflict.

@Yimpa Wow, didn't know that. He really needs a check up.

@Yimpa Any updates on why he fell down? Health problems or just exhaustion?

@D2sage Why did you change my question from this: to this? Is this because you want me to look silly, asking why are you assuming that this forum should be informed, when the obvious conclusion everyone may come to is more informed means less misinformed? However, in the original question I asked about INFORMED DEBATES AND ARGUMENTATIONS, which is what you were arguing about with @Leo Gura, arguing about the forum policies and that you demanded, not suggested, that he change his policy to fit your standards and called out perceived biases on his part, which assumes that he wasn't aware of and knowledge of the limitations of debating and arguing, and also that he's 'skimming of the headline' has made you strongly suggest to him to 'delve deeply' into the hot mess that is current Twitter.

@D2sage ISD found an increase of nearly 70% in Islamic State accounts, during Elon Musk's leadership of Twitter? Where did you get this information, can you link? So, you're now making this 70% of Islamic state accounts, some contributing to the current hate speech within Twitter, as the main contributor to hate speech and no other contributors are a factor? Now Twitter is a smaller private company, serving as a public forum where people can express their views. However, there's more trolling and hate speech and critics during Elon Musk joining and leading Twitter versus prior to Elon Musk joining, the average trolling and hating was moderated much more prior to Elon Musk joining, so why was trolling and hate speech increased far more under Elon Musk? Which are the platforms with greater hate speech and trolling and misinformation than current Twitter? Why are you assuming I'm talking like left wings are saints of some sorts?

@D2sage How does this post: only answer a few points but most not answered all the questions in my post:

@Blackhawk Who are you asking, me or @D2sage? If that question is to me, that's not what I'm asserting that the USA started provoking the war between Ukraine and Russia because the USA, specifically the military complex, corporate businesses and government wants the access to more minerals and fertile soil in Ukraine. What I'm affirming with @D2sage is his point on the geopolitical part as another factor for Russia's interest, not the USA's. There's also birthrate decreases within native Russians, so in Putin's mind and the Russian military, a war of attrition is not viable because over time Ukraine is growing stronger in manpower whilst Russia's human resources are weakening overtime in land warfare terms, so to him there's that factor that may have pressured him into escalating from border wars to invading Ukraine and trying to take Ukraine early while he's army is still relatively strong.

@D2sage 1. So, the tradeoff and cost of delving into one situation, is you get lost in the details of one source, and no longer can be broad and general? 2. Yet, you demand @Leo Gura to delve into details more, which doesn't compute with your claims of 'understanding broad context BUT ALSO scrutinize important points'. So are you trying to lead Leo into unbalancing his time and energy into one issue when he's dealing with multiple issues? 3. Is that because Elon Musk wants to be in control and manage himself who gets to say and post in Twitter, and who doesn't? How does this support his freedom of speech and freedom to say points, especially right wing talking points, when he himself seeks to control other's speeches and wants to moderate their speeches? 4. How do we make informed contributions in discussions, when in Twitter we saw so much more hate speech, trolling and misinformation from right wing under Elon Musk's leadership? Under Elon Musk's guidance, he fired and let off more than 50% of the staff, tries to monetize via blue bird tags, yet the haters and trolls still can impersonate with the blue birds? How can we have a good faith charitable discourse when most are bad faith, uncharitable and troll and hate? How is this a good example of leadership and taking charge when there's much more problems under Elon, especially when he's being indiscriminate with moderating for left wing speech too ? 5. Same as point 4, how can we balance free speech with respect and safety when there's an increasing hate speech and trolling within Twitter under Elon Musk's charge? Mr. Freedom of speech here had to increase moderation of speech when the right wing haters and trolls increased, so how's that a good example? 6. Why are you denying that you're challenging @Leo Gura by calling him a liar? Are you not implying he's full of BS when you complained to him about 'skimming the headlines' and really suggesting him to have deep nuance? 7. Why are you assuming that this forum should be informed debate and argumentations? Why are you trying to challenge the forum guidelines of no debating and arguing here? Do you not see the limitations of arguing and debating of all types? Why should @Leo Gura capitulate to your demands when this is his forum not yours and that since he was a student of philosophy, which involves a lot of arguing, would that make him more experienced over you in terms of knowing the limits of debating? I refuse to be silent and will ask many questions about you to clarify your definitions, reasoning and logic, your assumptions and presumptions, maybe your proof of your various claims, and, your assumptions. After all, by demanding me to be quiet, that gets you a pass to spouting nonsense doesn't it?

@D2sage Seems legit, it's part of the geopolitical power play. In fact, when Ukraine discovered the rich oil deposit in it's region and in the Crimea sea, that was part of Russia's concern because if Ukraine has the resources it could extract those new oil deposits, sell them to the west and maybe east, and fuel it's acceleration to being a sovereign country.

@D2sage What do you mean 'the devil is in the details'? What balance do you suggest to @Leo Gura in balancing broad to nuanced understanding of this issue? Was content moderation the only reason why the second chief of staff resigned? Why wouldn't Musk's labelling of limit the visibility of a video over allegations of mis-gendering by staffs and many people at Twitter as suspicious? Is Elon Musk implying shadow banning? Is he trying to make it much easier for others to troll and hate speech via Mis-gendering? Do you expect @Leo Gura to have enough free time to research past headlines? So, because of shadow banning, and the algorithm not suggesting one's video because of a misleading title, misinformation, hate speech, and Mis-gendering, that makes Twitter staff guilty for what? Moderating content more reasonably than Elon Musk's moderating of content today? How do you know @Leo Gura is BS at you? Why are you assuming he's lying to you? Fair enough explaining the cost of speed reading the headlines and oversimplifying, basing on faulty sources and assumptions, misleading information and incomplete research. However, what's the other tradeoffs and costs of reading too deeply into 1-2 articles? Especially if you're a busy person, do you have enough time, energy, and attention span to spend on deeper and detailed nuanced understanding of 1-2 articles, instead of10-20 articles you skim? Which methods of intaking these articles, skimming the headlines vs deep research, has the more costly tradeoffs here? Is that the only reason why this forum exists: to promote and foster open minded discourse and political discussions?

Guys, enjoy your alcohol while you still have feelings and taste. When you dead, you'll never feel again.

@Blackhawk Do you have explicit proof that @Hardkill has a post that clearly shows he's talking about a conspiracy theory? Which conspiracy theory and which post?

@Hardkill I don't know why, but I'm reminded of some historical event back then. Wasn't there some scandal or some incident in America about this? It could be in another part of the world about a puppeteer government body? I'm not sure about the military forcing the American government, could you elaborate more? Coercion part maybe I agree here, but explanation is still needed.

@Hardkill Probably how you worded your post here: Which assumes America's involvement is only profit driven in this Ukraine/Russia war, and no other factors like geopolitical, ideological, economic, or other reasons besides that. IMO, it could have been a conspiracy theory if you're included the Nord stream pipeline getting blown up because Biden okayed the military decision, which has immense ramifications to the war and could have escalated the situation. At this point that'sconsidered a conspiracy theory as we have no clear evidence yet that verifies that point. From the other user I mean.

@Hardkill Empty threats, don't worry as long as you word it clearly that it isn't a conspiracy theory. Gaslighting tactics at this point.

Nice diss track to Lupe Fiasco but it's just mostly lyrical miracle spiritual mumbo jumbo, still nice but most times I listen I forget it's a diss: However, when Lupe Fiasco responded with his diss track, followed by Mickey Fact's diss too: and Are both IMO master class diss tracks, good rapping and bars and actual layers behind some words and phrases and so many references! I'm willing to bet Royce felt each one and it must hurt.

To be brutally honest, ya'll are sounding like beta male bitches, over complaining about China's negatives and speculating on some of it's positives. Like, what's the timelines we're thinking in? years, decades, maybe centuries? See, if it's decades to centuries that's easily 80% of us in this forum dead by that point, so over worrying about the evils of china, as if evil only exists within China is just fear mongering. Just enjoy what you have right now, and for me it's the Dim Sam and white crackers and rice, watching some dramas play out.