Danioover9000

@Leo Gura True. It's like this logical problem: In a room with 10 murderers, you come in a kill one. How many murderous remain? Most people can't answer that right, but Chat GPT 4 answer "10, because by murdering you become a murderer yourself." to paraphrase it's logic. Chat GPT get's how complicated and serious that puzzle is, and maybe how relative murderer/not murderer is, but apparently most people don't, hence 80 years of Israel/Palestine conflict. The oppressors/oppressed, You did it/no you did it, it goes on.

Interesting video:

@Nabd But protesting is a good thing no? If you lived in a world where protesting peacefully is illegal, rioting and looting is illegal, and worker unions is illegal, then there'd be no more weekend offs, or holidays, or paid leave, or weeks of vacation. Do you see the consequences of your wish and how predatory capitalism companies and big tech or big pharma could make you work 9-5 with over work, or the 9-9-6 worker lifestyle in Asian countries for everyone? Even if it maybe immoral to protest peacefully the support of killing civilians, that's a small price for democracy yes?

@Nabd Okay sure, now I know what you mean. Although this isn't an argument for taking away their right to protest though right? If you ar arguing for them not to protest peacefully, don't you see how that's now an autocracy you are arguing for? Even the moral and ethics of that are questionable, but legally speaking it's important for them to protest peacefully, or form worker unions or stuff like them. Do you understand now?

@Nabd I'm interested how this event would effect Joe Biden's votes for the next presidency, I can see a fuck up being just enough that it may effect his re-election into the white house.

@Nabd I'm just commenting on your post that claims their collective egos are blind. I'm elaborating on your claim in that reply. I'm just specifically disagreeing that the news footages you've posited, they are mostly peaceful protests in the USA and UK, yet to devolve into rioting and looting. Do you understand my point?

Why zig-zag you bitch hag? You think that you got the tricks and treats when you shaman? Objectivist? I object, you just an unjust obtuse fa* time forgot zit. For you too lost and gone, in the matrix and lattices of minds, these reasons that are treasons to begin with! Benign bitch, handle your own itch you scratched in! Damn, reading the Destiny report, bubbles up orbs of dark beneath the soul! Monetizing crazy open relationships you craven, ship in, then ship out the ravens, just for the clout you date Annas, when they cra cra banana, you bandana wagons and bankrupt/bank out their moral integral characters, I naught or ought or ought to attack, like a Santa Clause a present for this maggot that loves SEXUAL ABASEMENT, while bicycling town bicycles, Mr. Bi-sex or poly that time? Do we need a polygraph to graph you as a sociopath you whack hag?

@Nabd I disagree, I think this is mostly a peaceful protest and democracy doing it's thing as usual. However, yes collective egos have blind spots, but collective egos have it's will powers and intelligence for it's own survivals. Just in this specific instance, protests are just as peaceful as the protests that BLM movement did in the USA so far in western societies, 93% peaceful with 7% rioting and looting by ANTIFA.

You can ignore me all you want, but my argument still stands true, even if I become the elephant in the room.

@StarStruck I think I disagree with the premise that 'if women ruled the world there would be world peace'. As an argument it's weak due to the vast history of chaos and disorder from irrationality and hyper emotions coming from women that is countered by the logic and rationality of men. This is a stage green shadow and stage green projection onto a complete egalitarian and altruistic world order, meanwhile disregarding the necessity of men in the lower stages of development in stage orange and blue to counter men from stage red/purple or even other stage blue nationalists and religious nationalists and racists and ethnocentrisms. This is like trying to establish a matriarchy when we have mostly patriarchy in place, and assuming there'd be no culture warfare between the two hierarchies vying for establishment power. I also think there's a slipping of extreme feminism and man hate in that premise, demonizing men unnecessarily, therefore I declare that whole argument a 'grotesque theoretical fantasy' of the highest delusional sort. There cannot be a healthy society where the structure favors far more one side over the other.

Really good story, shows stage red and why the right martial arts is important for fighting in real life:

What a fascinating story, coming from the realest place. Imagine being incarcerated in a level for aggravated assault and attempted murder, and only having some boxing, bare knuckled karate and wrestling for hand to hand combat: Great moral of the story, and why you shouldn't trust BJJ marketing and other fake martial arts.

@Husseinisdoingfine Good job collecting those videos, you are a hero.

@Breakingthewall How much more emphasis on punishment and sin than the other religions that it justifies an argument against Islam and not the other religious terrorists? Can you list some examples of Islam punishments?

@Breakingthewall Not necessarily the case. Maybe with the exceptions of Caliphate and radical groups like isis interpreting Islam through stage red, but the majority of the time Islam is solid stage blue, with deep roots to stage purple/turquoise spirituality and non-duality, like Sufism. If you're prepared to label Islam a hate based religion and argue that point, be prepared to label Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Paganism, Buddhism and other religions and religious nationalism as hate based and argue those points too. Those other religions have their own stage blue/red terrorists and radicals too. Even ANTIFA is a stage green terrorist group. One man's terrorist, is another man's freedom fighter.

@Raze Could you elaborate on the weak arguments and platitudes?

@PurpleTree By not taking sides, an arguer gets to both side an issue, AKA both siding fallacy, and use centrism to dodge and weasel to either side, or to pivot away when pressed too much on one issue. However, when you take a side, and stand, typically you can't easily pivot or change the goal post, but sunk cost fallacy can also happen.

@PurpleTree But the footage looks edited...

@PurpleTree Is this an actual video? Slavoj Zizek looks like he got edited into the footage.

@Scholar If all else is equal, and you were 3 years old, taken by a Sasquatch creature, grew up in the wilderness with big foots, and 15 years later you reenter into a human society, are those social dynamics obvious at that point when all the body language and tonalities and communications in your mind are from big foots and you?

@Leo Gura Those are quite a lot of rockets and some buildings bombed, Jesus. Halfway through, after they showed a child dead and the dad mourning, when the news anchor woman and the Israel correspondent talking, it was hard to watch and not get too emotional about it, Christ. 12:05 to 12:07 'At the moment we have to get the situation OUT OF CONTROL-the situation in control-' What a Freudian slip by the correspondent, Jeez. This is why don't speak too quickly.

@Raze That's terrible.

@Scholar This'll be my closing statement for this thread, and I'm done with this thread as evidence above the level of discourse has dropped down significantly: I think there's little justification, ethically and morally, for 70 years, after the Yom Kippur war and Israel defending itself successfully then getting parts of Egypt and other lands, to then oppression and segregating Palestinians forcefully, overtime, into Gaza, Israel needs to humble itself, it needs to outgrow it's Zionism and stop implementing a 2 party ethnostate, and Israel needs to take the higher moral ground, of offering a peace solution first. In regards to HAMAs, we're not justifying their actions, but consider that HAMAs is part of that fallout of Israel Zionism, and part of the cost of lives it's willing to pay for land grapping, just like with imperialism and colonialism and Neoliberalism. HAMAs is part of the fallout of Ethnocentrism and religious nationalism from Israel. I hope there'll be a peaceful solution and Israel grows up, and owns it's part of creating and maintaining this conflict one day.

@Scholar OMG, so a blunt tool to you is diplomatic solutions, of international countries and USA asking Israel to curb their ethnostate ethnocentrism religious nationalism a bit, slow down and stop land grabbing from the Palestinians for the past 70 years???

@UnbornTao Not a fan of Halloween?