Danioover9000

Serious problem trying to access the forum with mobile, can only do with computer. The message keeps saying error code EX144. Can anyone explain that error code to me? All I got was it's a problem with texts which says nothing about my mobile issues connecting to this forum.

It's a link to my thread... But why are resources in increasingly fewer hands, despite the shortage of working and living spaces? Or the declining birthrates, egalitarianism, feminism and neoliberalism, which leads to the devaluing of stage blue values, and religion? Another causation of increasing expenses for raising children and a family, is the increase in competition of human resources, like more women taking over male centric jobs, immigrants competing for similar jobs and work, and the increasing usage of automation and A.I technologies that are threatening to even replace knowledge workers, all because of multiculturalism claiming we can have all kinds of cultures in one region with little ramifications to our country/nation, our economy and ideologies, feminism pushing women to be less married and be mothers and more like men and compete for careers men do, and egalitarianism claiming all people are equal when we clearly see differences in biology and psychology between the sexes. You'll find data in history that countries with more religious backgrounds and programming, and the families that are religious, tend to be far more happier than the secularists, atheists, and modernists who adopted and are indoctrinated by egalitarianism, feminism, and multiculturalism. It even makes sense through Spiral Dynamics, as stage blue values tend to be conformist and support social group cohesion, meanwhile stage orange is more individualistic, even antagonistic to group cohesion unless it's for materialism and secularism gains, and when the wave swings away from individualism to collectivism when going to stage green, it's moral relativism and post modernism casts too wide a net of inclusion that it threatens to destroy itself with it's stage orange/blue shadow and over empathy and sympathy for stage red/purple, which have little moral qualms in killing off and taking over stage green societies if not for the strong enforcement arms of stage blue soldiers, police, securities to protect those in tage blue societies and even oranges and greens. NO! Democracies being too indecisive can be a potential weakness and dangerous to that nation's survival. Another example is looking at the Falklands war, which parliament was busy talking to itself what to do or what not to do, Margaret Thatcher decided for them they were going to war to reclaim those Islands back regardless, and she stood firm on that decision, which allowed Britain to save face in reclaiming those Falkland Islands that Argentina wanted because their dictator needed to show strength to his people, and a political victory of taking the Falklands back into Argentinian control suited their survival agendas, which clashed with GB's survival interests as a nation that conquered third of the world, and a defeat in the Falkland wars or even too much indecisiveness was intolerable and embarrassing for Britain. Are you sure egalitarianism has little to do with lesser birthrates and social breakdown? When Egalitarianism and feminism is preached over the top to all women, women then are indoctrinated into working more like men and less like traditional gender roles that have them married and raising children and family on average, which then takes up potential space from men working those same jobs and types of work, which then increases the unemployment rates specifically for men, which then influences those women to have more male centric views and be more careers orientated, which psychologically fucks up their feminine worldview and makes them have false expectations for their sexual and long term problems, have them complain more that the men they're dating are less adequate than them, which increases unhappiness and lesser well-being of the women and men. Also, speaking about rights, where do rights come from? Not even looking to history yet, and thinking through this logically, where do rights come from? You said from institutions and organizations, I ask where do institutions and organizations comes rom? You may say that institutions and organizations come from people and society, which I may ask where do people and societies come from? You may answer that people comprise biological men and women on average who were children when growing up, birthed from marriages and family on average, and societies are from social contracts formed under a strong leader and follower base, which is autocracy, which I may ask on average what created the institutions and organizations and social groups in the first place, and what demographic enforces those institutions, and what demographic of people provided and protected the women and children throughout history, and what demographic created and enforced rights on not just women but men too? Whether you thought through this logically, or you cheated and looked through history, the major demographic has always been MEN. MEN have created and passed those rights onto others in their groups and enforced them in their in-groups and even out-groups, MEN make up the majority of wars and border skirmishes and battles, which allowed some interior peace within societies they protected from other foreign societies that wanted territory, human slaves, land, and conquest, it's men on average that fought others back so that egalitarianism and feminism was possible within the inner circles of societies. It's not an accident or unfortunate that, for example in the middle east, feminism and egalitarianism are struggling so hard to survive in those regions, because practically how can they survive without MEN to protect those fragile values against stage purple/red/blue tribes and kingdoms there? I did propose a limited democracy, similar to republican state, but I also propose another solutions: Revision of the Roman empire's senate and emperor government system, which IMO is a well balanced governing system that enables or disables autocracy when needed, for instance if you look in history of Rome and how the ruling system is structured, they do have senates which have the power to allow an emperor to rule in times of crisis or in times of war, when an autocracy rule is most appropriate, but when times of peace happen, or if the emperor was too incompetent or too corrupt they can vote him out of power and reinstate senate rule. I think this system is very promising, opposed to the democracy we have currently that's just too indecisive and too much voices vying for power, when really we need the ability to switch from democracy to autocracy and back when the world NEEDS AUTOCRATIC RULE. This is especially helpful with an interne government, although it'll be an uphill battle against big tech companies and other parties who want to be the new rulers o this internet government. For a fictional example, look at the movie Shin Godzilla, the Japanese government depicted is accurate to the real world Japanese government, too much talking and too much haggling in board meetings, when an autocratic government sees Shin Godzilla coming on land, or even before land when he's approaching from sea and they knew beforehand, will allow military action IMMEDIATELY! DECISIVE and FAST action from the collective, armies are readied and fighting Godzilla before he even reaches the land with warships and submarines, evacuations two days prior and the shores lined with mines, followed by artillery and tank barrage and jet fighters attacking blowing up the first stage of Godzilla's form before he gets to evolve. So why the inaction collectively? Because Japan was beaten up so badly by the Americans, by two nuclear bombs, and due to them adopting the more American style of democracy, can't launch into immediate military action and must wait it out.

Interesting take: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9bs4sycl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9bs4sycl8

@BlueOak Let me address each point you're made. Sorry, that link is a thread I did, not a video link. I don't know why it's showing as a link, could be related to the forum crashes and error code EX144. Yes, while it's true everything is interconnected and has influence on the whole(globe?), We do need to address the problems with egalitarianism, feminism, and other western values that is now too much on 1st world democracies, We need to bring back more control to the patriarchy and to smaller limited democracies. Yes, the economic and biological factors are important to consider, agree here. I partly agree that living costs drive men and women to work, but it's not an equal distribution. It used to be that living costs effected majority of the men and less women because the men were the main providers and protectors, the bread winners of a nuclear family unit. However, due to feminism, egalitarianism, and just socialism/progressive ideas from too much stage green post modernism, with too many women doing career and other jobs more and being married/having children less and pursuing the singles life, hyper individualism, and too much dating and polygamy and much less commitment to long term relationships we see a spike in unhappiness and mental illness. Well being and happiness indexes do show that women generally are more happier married and having children, versus being focused on career and working, happiness is greater in intake family homes then separated family homes. Basically stage blue community building, and religious communities, and religious way of life, is shown to have grater happiness levels and well being than stage green excesses of feminism, egalitarianism and hyper pursuits of individualism. I also agree that limited space may factor into less birthrates, but that's another factor among many others. For instance, Japan's and south Korea's declining in birthrates severely is due to egalitarianism, feminism, and other western values run amok in those cultures, plus excess stage orange work ethic and insane work culture of the 9-9-6 work style(work from 9 am until 9 pm, for 6 days a week) which is basically hyper individualism, neoliberalism and capitalism pushed by American's culture onto South Korea and even Japan for no fault of their own other than getting beaten during the Pacific wars and bombed twice with nuclear bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which made American ideology much easier to indoctrinate into Japan's modern culture. Another interesting example is why we have higher birthrates in third world countries, sometimes higher than estimated replacement numbers for those societies, yet they're generally much more happier and have greater well-being than 1st world democracies despite externalized challenges to their societal developments and other developmental factors? It's once again stage blue values, especially with autocracy and patriarchy in those 3rd world countries, not neoliberalism or capitalism, or egalitarianism and feminism that can't survive in such environmental conditions. I'm confused by what you mean with further authoritarian influences onto western societies? I'd actually argue we need to stop and slow down the feminism, egalitarianism and hyper individualism rampant in most westernized countries, by limited democracies with more congressmen and statemen. We need much less feminism and especially in the USA we need to either remove or update the 19th amendment of women's rights to vote, because the way it is right now, almost any women of any educational background, when they reach the age and other conditions for their eligibility to vote, can vote regardless if most are stage orange, some are stage green excess, and a few stage blue women. In fact we can see the majority of history that patriarchy and authoritarianism was the majority ruling structures for almost every society worldwide, and that democracy was just a recent new evolution of government, which unfortunately has mixed results and mixed outcomes. For instance under the Obama administration, and a few administrations in the past when the left party was elected, we tended to see increases in divorce rates and due to no fault divorce the majority of wives can just divorce and get half to more than half the income of the husband, and if they have children, due to breaking up the intake family, put undue stress onto them, which effects them into their remaining adulthood. In fact we do see that children generally speaking are happier when they come from intake family homes versus adopted, or from single parent households. I think the main problems with building an internet government, and extending authority to the internet world and refining authority in the real world, is due to big tech companies, and how neoliberalism and capitalism is set up. However, main issue is the enforcement arm to extending that authority onto the internet world. It can do so, and the world and society can enforce new standards and build an internet government if more and more men decided to enforce that new rule. Another factor is just due to 1st world democracies and that everything has to be thought over and voted for. In fact if we look to Britain's history, and see Oliver Cromwell and how the parliament was repeatedly dissolved from democracy to autocracy, and back and forth several times, we clearly see how indecisive a democracy can be, in fact when Oliver Cromwell was in charge most things went ahead faster than when he stepped down temporarily to allow parliament back into power, before after some time getting dissolved again LOL.🤣 So ultimately for such a change we actually need a dictator type of smart person to rule and lead that change, like a philosopher king because we don't want some stage red/blue leader too tyrannical, but we also don't want some hippie moral relativist as leader either. Not sure about socialism, atheism, feminism as you've described them. For example, with feminism and it's 'advocacy' and 'multiple representations' I disagree generally speaking. Main reason why, is really to ask your the following: What is enforcing those feminism ideologies? What is enabling feminism in patriarchal societies? What can women actually do if all men decide to revolt and remove women from places of political power, from the work force and to only lead traditional female gender roles? IMO the harsh reality is that very little all women can do against such an uprising, and the reason why we allowed feminism here at all is because OTHER MEN, in some police forces, military, and other places of the law, allowed feminism to exist in societies. Ever since the civil rights movement and when communism infiltrated feminism, feminism nowadays is just something different from it's original suffrage movement. Speaking of communism, socialism is just too difficult to install and build social infrastructure for, case in point Russia and China, both still needed to borrow features off of capitalism to thrive first, and once they're built a solid capitalistic economic framework can they put onto it socio economics, because during the fall of the soviet union most satellite states and foreign countries using the communism economic framework fell apart, like Venezuela, Cuba, Chile, and a few others trying for socialism too soon. In fact egalitarianism has this principle of equality above all else, yet when factoring in economics and biological factors, and many other factors we clearly see that equality is very difficult in reality, and egalitarian and feminism has eroded the family values and the nuclear family unit to the point that most men are dissatisfied, mostly chasing dates and simps for women, most women who are more careers oriented are dissatisfied when their male partners are lesser than them. I also agree that any ideology taken to their extremes can be unhealthy. Despite my biases and preferences, I do admit I don't want the world to regress to monarchy or feudalism even though I love the Queen, that's too traditional for me. I do want more conservatism and more back to family values though, but I especially don't want to bring back slavery industry. I'm mostly moderate to conservative, sometimes in some specific case I can be left leaning for example tax the rich I'm in favor for, just how you'd implement taxing the rich, like if you can find a way to tax higher for millionaires and billionaires, but tax lesser rates for small local business owners, or even give tax benefits or insurances to start ups that's nice.

@Razard86 Okay I'll bit the bullet here. I don't want to argue in bad faith and make some uncharitable takes of your takes, but I have to point out here you're just flat out wrong. There are good reasons why we need distinctions between psychology and spirituality in the first place, and why we need to define the two fields separately first before we try to synthesize the two fields like what you're doing here. There are good reasons why in the relative levels we make these distinctions in the first place. True, I agree we have a bias and preference towards getting the closest percentage to success as we can, because of neoliberalism/capitalism ideology as part of our meta programming, then mathematics, as well as science and other hard and soft sciences, IT computing and technologies, and engineering is valued in the west because there was material success and benefit gained. What does Trump have to do with your argument and your post about spirituality and psychology? Also you're slipping in hidden assumptions that Americans are so ignorant to elect Trump because he suggested taking bleach for Covid. First of all, that bleach post was later in his presidency, not during his time in campaigning and rising from the primaries and election. Second, you hyper focus in Donald Trump's troll post as if that's why all of the right wing, the traditionalists, the conservatives, the republicans, the patriots, the nationalists elected him for. NO! There are good reasons why the right wing and even the centrists elected him president, which is strongly related to president Obama's and the left wing's mistakes and failure to deliver some promises to the American people, and as a result most felt disenfranchised by the left wing and Obama administration then, which allowed Trump to begin his political marketing campaign, and get this, on suggestion by BILL CLINTON! YES! You heard right, Bill Clinton himself, in conversation with Trump, threw that suggestion to Trump in passing, not realizing that he might've taken that suggestion seriously. And due to the charm and charisma that Donald Trump can do, plus the growing resentment and frustration of the failures of the left wing then, allowed Donald Trump that level of success.

@PurpleTree Obviously Christianity, Gnosticism and Agnosticism, or the esoteric branches of Christiaity.

@BlueOak This is a complex issue given the developmental factors of value systems, cognitive and moral developments, personality types/traits, ego development, other lines of development personally to societally, ideological beliefs indoctrinated, groomed and gas lighted by culture, family upbringing, mainstream/alternative media, social media sites, news papers, tv programs, radio, peer pressure, schooling and education, group thinks, and many more information points of manufactured consent via marketing and ads by big tech companies that influences how we think and feel about the world, and what our biases and preferences are internally projected onto the external world. Half of your points are the ramifications of perverse incentives within the internet cultures here: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/95853-perverse-incentives-of-the-internetonline-culture/ And the other half of your points, including decrease in work ethic and discipline, lies with the increasing egalitarianism, progressivism, socialism, feminism on the rise in most western countries and western divisions with neoliberalism/capitalism ideologies. half of you points and half of your problems would be solved if we limited more democracies down, elected more congressmen and statemen, made some internet based government body, we'd see either those problems solved or a reduction in those problems you've listed. In fact, a strong correlation to your points is the decreasing birthrates experienced by western countries and some eastern countries that have adopted western values and westernized by America, for example Japan and south Korea have low birthrates due to egalitarianism and feminism indoctrinating women to pursuing careers way more than marriage and family and raising of children, and the ramifications of atheism and secularism, as well as consumerism and hyper materialism.

This is such a bad faith uncharitable take of Jordan Peterson, he's not atheist!🤣 https://youtu.be/5-yQVlHo4JA

@Merkabah Star Exactly, because GOD and the Devil are two sides of the same coin.

What a atrocious take on Jordan Peterson! https://youtu.be/5-yQVlHo4JA

@Razard86 Due to complex differences in developmental factors like stages of development, cognitive biases and moral development, personality types/traits, 9 stages of ego development, shadow aspects and shadow work, Integral Theory and other lines of development socially and personally, ideological beliefs indoctrinated by culture, family upbringing, community, schooling, tv programs, radio, news papers, social media, peer pressure and group conformity, and many more points of manufactured consent that manipulates how you think and feel, how you make sense of the world, your self image, self biases and preferences. You can argue and give an opinion about this psychologist, but keep in mind you'll over simplify his takes from just one video. I also notice how you're conflating spirituality with psychology, maybe make the distinction between the two first before evaluating the rightness or wrongness off this psychologist.

@Leo Gura That's true, I agree the initial purpose is to slow down a novel virus from spreading, even though at that timeline we don't know enough about Covid, we do know enough that Covid was spreading fast due to how quickly the Chinese government converted warehouses into makeshift hospital beds, and how Covid had effected Italy when it ignored WHO warnings. I also agree that we shouldn't apply today's knowledge backwards and judge a virus going from epidemic to pandemic because we slip the assumption that knowledge is A-priori, so what we think todays applies to what we thought then, in that time period, so we then jump the conclusion that we should've done this or that when we really don't know much other than high spreading and what was happening in Wuhan and in Italy.

Another problem I just discovered is that when I sign out, your entire website is in html and text @Leo Gura.

@Happy Lizard It's the same logic and rational used by the detective and the suspect. Detective: "Did you kill your GF?". Suspect: "Well, no. As I stated, she was sleeping peacefully.".

OH MY GOD!!! THE FORUM IS BACK!!! I HAVEN'T LOST ALL MY DATA HERE!!! Are you alight @Leo Gura? I saw that the forum had the error ode EX144. What is that error code?

It may be a reasonable sounding argument, but existentially it doesn't make sense so it's a bit of an awful argument: He's giving a very simplified explanation of free will vs determinism, and stating that the 'reasons are what convinces you, not you convincing you.'. That's over simplifying other developmental factors like Spiral Dynamics stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits, 9 stages of ego development, Carl Jung's Architypes, integral theory and other lines of societal and personal development, and ideological beliefs indoctrinated by culture and family upbringing, mainstream and alternative media, social media sites, videos, tv channels, radio, news papers, adverts, community and peer pressures to conform to your group identity, and many more that shapes your world view, self biases and preferences from externalities to internalities of your MIND. So, it's insufficient that reason and logic alone moves a debater or arguer to be convinced and persuaded, it's actually SURVIVAL and the EGO MIND, and UNIVERSAL INTELLIGENCE that moves you and your views this and that way, which is lost on someone like Alex O'Connor, but everybody in that room doesn't get it yet. God realization is a very deceptive experience to have, mystical, magical, psychedelic, paranormal and supernatural experiences and mostly post rational, not rational or pre rational. That's completely going over all their heads how this duality between the arguer/arguments, and debater/debate, is a big duality.

@Consept Generally speaking, Destiny's narrative against Mr. Girl and that drama, and his justifications for being public with his open relationships and filming his breakups with for example Anna and his past lovers, that's a moral and ethical issue I have, and I intuitively feel that he's lying to himself. Now for specific arguments, I don't have a robust one yet to explain and justify my takes on Destiny solidly, other than alarms bells ringing and my gut feeling saying he's manipulating and dangerous. Probably one area I could build a compelling, persuasive and convincing case is one my body language analysis I did on him, which body language analysis has a 70-80 percent likelihood of success due to how privative and complex body language is, as this is how our human species evolved first as a social creatures, communicates especially when two tribes don't speak the same verbal languages, so we end up pointing to things, displaying our palms to others, using our eyebrow flashes and smiling, emphasizing with facial expressions and mannerisms and gestures. Even more privative verbals and tones paired up with body gestures also adds to the analysis. Tons of data to support my body language analysis of Destiny even if body language analysis is a soft type of science. Another example is I took the Destiny Report Mr. Girl did, contacted a private statement analyst, and privately verified most of those statements, which is a troubling finding, again if true. Never mind that streamer, what are your thoughts about Sam Harris's takes on Trump, Covid-19, and Israel/Palestine conflict? What are your thoughts on the podcaster's takes of him?

I partly agree with Sam Harris, social media and the internet today is so perversely incentivized to pursue profits, clicks, views, click bait thumbnails and misleading titles, and big tech companies like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Tinder, YouTube, Twitch, Kick, 4chan, Reddit, and the worst of them IMO, Tik Tok, all are designed to be hyper stimulating, hijack the limbic brain system, hook your attention for loner and make you chase those dopamine hits, increase mental health issues like ADD/ADHD, Narcissism, neuroticism, sociopathy and psychopathy like developments in your mind and world view of others, plus so much misinformation and half truths mixed with deceptions of bad faith agents and agencies vying for your time/energy/emotions and attention. It's a wholly unhealthy power dynamic for the mass consumers of these platforms: And honestly I find it disingenuous they're already bad faith and uncharitable with Sam Harris's Trump and Covid-19 takes, especially coming from Bret Weinstein, fake intellectual. So many fallacies and appeals to pathos, ethos and even logos that there's little good faith and good will, just sounds fake to me. Mat do a body language and tonality analysis if there's some deception with the word choices here.

Very interesting podcast with Sam Harris on Israel/Palestine conflict:

@itsadistraction LMAO!🤣 Yeah, don't you worry, until that problem seeks and finds you.

@AerisVahnEphelia That's right! Human who rely on jobs and income from jobs to support themselves or their families will overtime get replaced by robots, automation machines, and even A.I programs that can output and do better than you. I'm pretty sure you'll even agree with me here, after your boss fires you because their machine and A.I program can do your tasks but better. And then you'll also join the unemployment percentages too, another member of society disenfranchised and displaced by the disruptive A.I technologies of today.

@AerisVahnEphelia Absolutely not! We need more countries to integrate capitalism first, have developed stronger economies, then they can try socio economics. We cannot skip to some socialism type of economics where hippies do free gift economies.

@An young being It's not so simple! If A.I technology roughly increases production and efficiency by 10x, we can estimate that unemployment will roughly be at 10x, les or more depending on various factors in political and economic climates. The main problem is big companies, CEOs, and other business minded people are hardcore stage orange in values with some at stage blue, and their groups will only measure and use metrics for materialism and material gain, profits and transactional relationships, they will only view the currency and money gained and time/energy saved by A.I, but not factor in the overall decrease in stability of families and communities, and the decrease in well-being and vast increases in mental health issues caused by proliferating A.I, algorithms, and more and more usage of the internet and digital world! We're stuck in Game A, have yet to transition into Game B, and we're stuck in a multi polar trap of perverse incentives by neoliberalism, capitalism, feminism run amok, we're all stuck in a Moloch situation. And all the issues and factors I listed, also effects birthrates! Just because we're having lower and lower rates of birth, also partly to abortions, contraceptives, condoms and hyper sexual liberation of just fucking around with too many people. This is why I propose a smaller, scaled down democracy with ore congressmen and statemen, adopting some other high conscious policies @Leo Gura listed in his conscious politics series, I believe that type of limited democracy in the real world, and in the internet we desperately need some internet government to regulate all those social media platforms like Tik Tok which is grooming children and making more users perverted and have shorter attention spans. Tell me, how would you think and feel when your solution say is implemented, but you see rampant increases of unemployment, and mental health issues all due to perverse incentives by neoliberalism, capitalism and egalitarianism caused by chasing these grotesque theoretical fantasies of Sci-Fi and A.I technology? Would you feel guilty? Would you say enough is enough if humanity is mass producing A.I enhanced pornography, and A.I enhanced sex robots and sex toys, and see hyper moral degradation worldwide, and plummeting birth rates and loneliness and mental health issues?