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  1. Distraction is never a good idea. That way the child doesn’t learn to properly deal with their emotions later in life. It‘s a coping mechanism. They learn to suppress them and reach for games/ videos/ food (or whatever they were taught in childhood) later in life when they experience difficult emotions. That creates a lot of tension and stress. You should acknowledge your child’s feelings whenever possible. When it‘s not possible at the moment, the difficult emotions will still be expressed later and need acknowledgment then. Crying and difficult emotions are perfectly normal and children need room to express them. If you want them to have a stable emotional base for life, you need to let them know that whatever they’re feeling is ok. The question of whether it‘s a good idea to let kids stare at screens at an early age is a different one. I heard (and experienced in my surroundings) that it takes away creativity and initiative from children so I personally wouldn’t. But i guess it also depends on the content and frequency.
  2. +1 +1 +1 @montecristo You find arguments and videos like this on all sides. People are different. Not every vegan thinks ‘if everyone just went vegan, all would be fine.’ A vegan diet needs to be properly planned. It doesn’t work for many people because they have no idea what they’re doing. They eat some fruit for breakfast and a salad for lunch and think that’s balance. Sooner or later you run into health problems if you don’t meet your nutritional or caloric needs, no matter the diet. There’s an argument to be made that, for a healthy eco system, we might need to keep some farmed animals but sure not that amount. If we want farming to be a closed cycle again, where one things feeds the other and we’re not relying on mono culture and pesticides, there could still be some animals. But you wouldn’t need nearly as much as we do now and people would need to cut back on their consumption a lot. Meat is a luxury item. My grand parents ate meat once a week. That’s the scale we’re talking, not several times a day which is the case for a lot of people today. Also, your appeal to nature fallacy doesn’t really work here. Just because you think it’s unnatural doesn’t make it bad - it’s called evolution. It’s also unnatural to sleep on a mattress. The solution isn’t always to go back. I have a tendency to defend ‘natural’ things as well though… It’s a bit tricky. I ask myself then: Is it really bad for people or am I just resisting change? 30 animals are killed every second in the US alone. That’s not ‘natural’. Can you imagine the amount of energy that takes and the waste it produces? In my personal life I’ve only seen people becoming better when going vegan. I think we can agree that most people benefit from eating more fruits an vegetables and less white flour and sugar. Don't worry about veganism, worry about the amount of junk food that is ruining people's health. And if it's different for you and you can't go vegan, good on you for finding out. There"s an ethical argument to be made but hey, you need to survive, no? If you have time and money to think about those things you’re already very lucky. Make the best choice you can with the information and means you have. Try to find a balance between self (health) and others (animals, environment). Then help others do the same. Going vegan isn't the end goal, it's a starting point. There’s a lot of other things you can do. But then again, diet is one of the biggest contributors to environmental change and we have A LOT more say in it than in other topics. You literally vote for the kind of world you wanna live in every time you go to the grocery store. Everyone cutting down on meat would make a much greater impact than another 2 percent going vegan I think. It doesn’t have to be so black and white. No one argues that it wasn’t necessary to eat mean for human life to evolve but we now move beyond that. Actually, about 20 percent of humans don’t consume meat (in India for ex.) and they sure aren’t the unhealthiest. Just my two cents. Now someone call me out on all my biases
  3. This place is such a treasure because you can talk to real people about all the strange, good and bad things that are happening to you on this confusing and (often) lonely path. I’m very grateful for the kind of guidance that is offered here. It can be scary and confusing as hell for example when in one moment your entire life changes. You literally don’t know if you’re going through a psychosis or how you should still function in this world. And on top of that, there’s no one to talk to. Your friends and family often won’t understand and doctors would probably drug you if you told them what is happening to you. So here’s my idea: Why not introduce some kind of help line for these kinds of emergency situations? For people that are having acute and overwhelming experiences like deep realisations and awakenings. Just someone on standby that can offer their experience and a listening ear. There are ‘spiritual emergence centres’ all over the world for this purpose. Link: http://www.spiritualemergencenetwork.org The problem is, you’re probably not living close to one and maybe you don’t have the time or means to go there. So how about taking that idea but being able to talk to someone directly without having to go anywhere? Or maybe something like that already exists that I’m not aware of? When I lived alone and scary things started happening to me, I had no one to talk to. I remember I would scroll through the forum, unable to write a post, looking for something that could help me while actually just talking to someone face to face might have helped a lot more. Leo, you once said that you called a friend after you found out you just imagined your parents. A lot of people don’t have anyone to talk to in those situations. Ok, maybe it ultimately doesn’t help (because you’ve imagined him too, haha) but it was still a kind of first assistance, no? Yes, you ultimately have to save those things alone but don’t underestimate the power of human connection. Just knowing that something like this is available in case of emergency might give some people more courage to face those scary things. Obviously, everyone would have to respect that kind of service and not abuse it. And I’m not talking about having someone to get lost in philosophical discussions with. The forum (and everything else that is in written form, like book) is still amazing for self actualisation work. I’m really just talking about emergencies here. Obviously I have no idea how something like that would be actualized;-) I just wanted to get this idea off my chest.
  4. @loub Go to bed before midnight Sleep enough (usually 8h, maybe you need more or less though) Don’t eat too late Eat easy to digest meals in the evening Eating more fruits and vegetables and cutting back on processed food will increase your energy in general Move enough during the day Avoid screens 1h before bed and also 30min after waking up Drink camomile tea before going to sleep Use your bed(room) only to sleep in it, not for other activities (watching movies, eating,…) Put your alarm far away from your bed so you have to get up to put it off Splash your face with cold water right after you wake up or take a shower directly Put on motivating music and dance if you’re still tired Do something you love in the morning:-) Consider a set morning routine to get you through the first hour or so
  5. @Truth Addict Others have been there and it felt completely natural and fine. He doesn't judge, that's the difference. He's making a statement of his relationship towards sex at the moment. He will come back around and see the divine in sex and intimacy. He probably already sees it actually, there's just no desire to engage in it right now. Don't make a problem where there is none. I'm sure you mean well but it might have just been different for you. The way he describes it I recognise everything I went through myself and it was a very freeing process actually. One you shouldn't interfere with in my opinion. All in good time.
  6. @Truth Addict You have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s not ideas in his head, he’s describing his experience and it’s perfectly valid. @inFlow I’ve been there too. It took 6 months for me till my sex drive came back. I actually didn’t even notice for months because I was single. So there’s a good chance it will come back for you too, better than ever :-) When you’re detached you’ll actually really enjoy it for the first time. That’s what real freedom feels like. I’d say don’t pressure yourself in that phase. Sex just doesn’t serve you right now, so don’t push yourself. Let go of it for now. Don’t let anyone tell you you’re deluding yourself. Who cares about ‘true awakening’ or whatever, it’s part of your path right now. Trust your gut, it’ll be alright. It will probably come back but even if it doesn’t, don’t you feel more open and loving than ever? Isn’t that all that matters? But I can imagine it has to be difficult to explain to your partner. Sex is the easiest way to get back to the feeling of oneness. We’re all craving it. In orgasm, there is no separation. That is how the species is reproduced: through the experience of God. You’re with God already, that’s why you don’t need it right now. So you tell me: Do you ever get used to being with God? :-)
  7. @Fortunate Son Don’t change too much too quickly. You’ll fail for sure and you’ll judge yourself which helps no one. Simplify, especially in the beginning. And remember: Doing something (even if it’s just 5 minutes) everyday is better than doing a lot every once in a while. No need to stretch and do yoga and walk for example. Do something to move your body every morning but you can mix it up if you want. Just keep 30min aside, maybe you’ll feel like a walk and short stretch one day and like doing yoga another day. Try prepping easy meals once or twice a week while listening to music or a new video from Leo :-) Also include things you love and get you excited in your schedule: make your favourite beverage after coming back from your walk for example. Start light and make it easy for yourself: Write a few lines while your tea is brewing, no need to write 3 pages and meditate for an hour. Focus on 1 - 2 habits (I’d say meditation and some kind of movement in the morning) and try to keep going for 2 or 3 weeks. Then add something new. It can also help to exchange the word ‘should’ for ‘could’ when you think about all this. I keep a list of ‘things I could do in the morning’. This little word takes off so much pressure and I actually end up doing most of it everyday. Also get a good grip on why you want to do the things you do. Maybe write some kind of mission statement for yourself. Something like ‘I want my music to change people’s life and I wanna be as healthy and conscious as I can so achieve this.’ If you read this in the morning it will get you in the right mindset and motivate you to keep going with your habits. I usually have a tight morning schedule but I leave my evenings empty to read a good book, meet up with people, watch something or just do whatever I want to relax. I need that to stay sane and it keeps me from getting obsessed with scheduling. I have 1,5h in the morning and I do yoga, shower, meditation, mission statement, tea, writing (+gratitude list) and I read 1 or 2 pages of a book. Then I eat breakfast and get ready. When these 1,5h are over then that’s it with ‘should’ and ‘must’ for the day. Everything else I manage as it comes, I won’t stress about it. I eat when I’m hungry, I listen to music when I feel like it, I meet friends when the opportunity is right. It’s not necessary to schedule every detail of your life. And don’t worry, it’ll get a lot easier. Once you do this for some weeks you’ll actually want to keep your habits going because you feel so much better than before. It won’t feel like torture forever, it’s just unusual in the beginning. Good luck :-)
  8. @pluto Honestly, the first time I read this post I was just laughing and making fun of it in my head. Got myself back together quickly though because I actually have experienced not being hungry for days when I had some kind of realisation or when I felt more 'aligned’ with life than usual (somehow ‘in the flow’, it’s hard to explain). It’s like I just forgot to eat. Also needing less sleep and being more aware while sleeping. It feels like being plugged into an invisible electricity outlet that gives you endless amounts of energy, doesn’t it? So I got caught in closed mindedness for a bit… but I’m willing to get out of it :-) May I ask how active you are? I can imagine going without food when I wouldn’t have to move much but I have a very physically demanding job. I can’t even manage intermittent fasting because I would literally drop by 11 am if I don’t eat breakfast.
  9. @Schahin From what I’m reading in your post it seems like you’d like to get some kind of certainty / idea about the future. You shouldn’t wast time in trying to predict anything with astrology. Imo it doesn’t work, life is way too complex. If it would work that way, someone would have found out already and there’d be no surprises. That doesn’t mean that it’s all bs but maybe we have to approach it differently. Here’s what I found out about this topic so far: Different planets have different meanings and depending on how they’re aligned (conjunctions and oppositions), characteristic events happen in our individual or collective human life. It’s less about hard scientific facts but if you develop a bit of an archetypal eye and you’re able to think in big picture terms it’s becoming more obvious. (Richard Tarnas spent a huge chunk of his life looking for these correlations. Read ‘Cosmos And Psyche’ if you’re interested.) You can look back at historical events and see that pretty clearly or could learn to draw your natal chart and check for yourself how the planets were aligned in different times of your life (and what those planets mean). So certain planets might stand for certain dynamics but it’s basically impossible to know how it’s gonna play out up front. For example: Chaplin and Hitler had very similar birth charts, associated with alignments that stand for great skill in communication, proneness to nervous agitation, harsh life experiences such as sustained poverty and isolation, problematic relationships with authority combined with controlling tendencies, a pull towards personal eccentricity, artistic impulses and interests, experiences of rejection and frustration, inclinations towards relationships with unusually young or emotionally immature woman and capability to powerfully move audiences. They had very different lives but it’s hard to deny the similarity in these dynamics. Again, only when you look at it with an archetypal eye. But hey, it’s hard to draw the line there on where one could just add meaning to things that aren’t there. Objectivity is out the window for sure. So in his book he says that yes, there’s a tendency to experience breakthroughs and transformation in correspondence with certain planetary alignments but they do not per se cause it. They’re just indicators of an underlying pattern that is playing itself out. The planets do not ‘cause’ events anymore than a clock doesn’t ‘cause’ time, it’s an indicator of it, it happens simultaneously. He also writes that even though he was very sceptical, he thinks that the universe is an interconnected whole, informed by creative intelligence which causes patterns of meaning. Something informs the cosmos and our psyche. “As above, so below” Whatever that is and if you believe in it is up to you. God? Maybe he’s not doing a very good job at hiding;-)
  10. The only thing that is permanent in your experience is you. So maybe try and provide yourself some permanence? You obviously need stability to get through the day. Prioritise that over trying to grasp concepts that are overwhelming you. Thinking about it won’t help. Try to do more and think less. Follow your genius. Solutions might present themselves through actions, sometimes when you least expect it. Just some suggestions: Have a date or a call with a friend once a week, join a hiking group, take the same kind of walk everyday, put some time in something that sparks your interest/ a creative project, look up job alternatives that excite you, make a vision board, etc. You obviously had a great time the past days. Maybe loving your camping trip/ being outside so much is trying to tell you something. Sometimes when you start meditating things you thought were ‘kind of ok’, like a job for example, suddenly seem terrible and situations become unbearable. You can’t deny the obvious anymore: it’s time for a change. Let’s be honest, you’re probably not living the life you want. How long are you gonna be stuck in this? :-) We will probably have to deal with the impermanence thing at some point but this day doesn’t have to be today. All in good time.
  11. What. The. Fuck. I'm reading this post only now! After sending you the message. I SWEAR! Literally laughed for 5 minutes. I give up. Life is too much. What am I even?
  12. You could try and find a farm/ community that you like and volunteer there. They might let you live and eat there in exchange for working several hours a day in the garden or in the fields. Camphill - style! I did that for quite a while and it's a good way to find your own direction. In a bigger community it's also usually easier to spread the work and have a bigger variety of food of your own, not just some veggies from the garden and 2 fruit trees. I work (actually hope to work soon) on a farm where we're I'd say we're 90% self sustained. That includes everything from fruit (fresh and for jam and juice) veggies (all year round) to grains (for making our own pasta, rice, spelt for bread, buckwheat etc), herbs (for tea and spices), milk (and milk products like cheese and yoghurt), eggs, meat and fish. Even wood for furniture, bowls, etc. and wool for clothes and carpets. Just for reference, this grew over the past 20 years and there's around 30 people working there everyday. Again: it's a ton of work! But doing it that way (in exchange for living/eating there) you would bypass having to own something and saves you a lot of responsibility.
  13. @Cocolove Hi, lovely to see other people interested in sustainable farming here. First I’d say don’t underestimate what it takes to be totally self sufficient. You’ll need to have a lot of experience and you’re gonna have to make a ton of sacrifices. Especially in colder climates it can be a huge challenge to realise. So being totally self sustained is probably aiming a bit too high, especially in the beginning. Work part time, see to make passive income or work from home. If you wanna go all in consider selling some of your produce or starting a CSA. You’ll never be rich though. You also don’t have to grow everything yourself, there are lots of alternatives and in-between steps. Look into community gardens and food coops for example. Where to start? On a farm;-) From your post I can’t read how much experience you have in gardening/farming but I’d say start on other farms for sure and see how you like it. There’s lots of different ways of living sustainably, no two farms are the same. Get a feel of what you like, not only in theory but in practice. Farming is very hands - on. I can seem romantic until you have to work 12h days in a physically exhausting job just to see half of your produce go to waste because it doesn't rain enough. Only if it's a true passion you'll be able to take those kinds of setbacks. It’s beautiful and rewarding if you love it and you’re willing to put all of your energy into it. But I don’t know a lot of people that would actually thrive doing it.
  14. Children want nothing more than to learn and make sense of their surrounding. Playing is just their way of doing it. We generally pay very little attention to the pace at which children develop which results in them having to sit still all day and ‘learn’ by the age of 6. Thankfully, there’s lots of alternatives already and they’ll become a lot more popular. I have the pleasure to be around lots of people that went to a Steiner- (Waldorf) or Montessori school. Not saying those are perfect (yet) but usually those people have not lost their drive to learn new things and have a good sense of their strengths and weaknesses. (Compared to when I graduated high school where everyone just detested everything that had anything to do with studying and has no idea what to do with their lives.) School just doesn’t prepare you for real life at all. We still live in a society where people adequate intelligence with being able to reproduce what someone else said. Rather we should focus on critical thinking, independence, social skills and being able to deal with one’s emotions. The head of the Belgian public employment service actually once said that 70% of children that start school today will have a job that doesn’t even exist yet. Of course our school system can't work when you look at those numbers so change is inevitable. It’s a huge waste of time at best and takes everyone’s passion and confidence away at worst.
  15. @Shaun Think about what you’re really looking for in a partner. What’s a no - go for you? Any deal breakers? I’d say don’t compromise and settle for less when it comes to those things. Except you just wanna have some fun or get some experience of course but I don’t think that’s the case for you. It saved me a lot of energy to not settle for something I’m not certain will be worth my time. You’re a feeler, you’ll know the difference;-) That being said, it took a lot of relationships and experiences to get to that point, so maybe you still have to get to know yourself in that way. If you play around with LOA, I’d say focus more on how you will feel being with someone you love. How will your mood be? Do you feel accepted? Like you can grow and be yourself? If those things are present in a girl, and other things (what she looks like/does/thinks) are flexible your chances are a lot greater to find someone that fits your description. (And you won’t go rigid on all the details, always looking for the perfect person.) You don’t need a girlfriend that is into all the practices that you are into, if you still feel those things with her. Someone that never even heard of meditation can teach you amazing things and some people are just more present/connected to life by default. On the flip side, a lot of ‘spiritual’ people are just full of themselves narcissists that think they’re infallible and don’t have to question their behaviour in a relationship. So, think again why you value these traits and that they come out differently in different people. Also, careful not to think they’re a shortcut to not have any problems in understanding each other in a relationship. Because believe me, no matter who you’re together with, relationships are a lot of work and can be nerve wracking. It will teach you a lot of things about yourself that you weren’t even aware of. So you’re probably still gonna kick and scream sometimes. That’s not to say that being more conscious will not eliminate a big part of the (initial) problems. Also, if you have high standards and you’re dreaming up the perfect person, keep on doing lots of personal development. Become a 10/10 guy yourself and you’ll be with a 10/10 girl:-) Whether you like LOA or not, in that sense it still works.
  16. Haha, I so know that feeling. It's funny how ultimately, we still wanna have the upper hand on the whole progress which totally misses the point. So tricky, isn’t it? Since doing mindfulness meditation I’m so painfully aware of how distracted I am 95% of the time. It’s hard not to judge oneself then. I totally notice how that leads nowhere though. It doesn’t matter how ‘good’ I am, how much I’m doing the things I planned to, the standard just keeps rising and it feels like suffocating. It's just scary to let go of control when it comes to all of this. Leo’s video on how to stop judging yourself really helped me some months ago. I should re-watch. Someone very smart told me the other day that I shouldn’t try to have an empty mind but rather become good at observing what’s is going on. This helped me a lot and it’s basically exactly what you (ehm, I mean Alan Watts) said too. As in: You can’t stop the traffic but you can choose how involved you wanna be. That’s what woman are in your life for, they’ll show you the way when it comes to this;-) That's why you're so attracted to them. They remind you of something that is in you and wants to get out. (Don't go back to the crazy chick though) That’s so funny that you say that, that’s how I think about my mind. It’s so limited, it can only show me things that already existed in the past. How could it ever bring me anywhere new? I see what you mean. You don’t immediately have to act on it. But if you don’t at least consider what your feelings are telling you they’ll keep coming up and forcing you to look at them (in my experience at least). Maybe stay with that yearning for a bit everyday. Allow yourself to really feel it. What does it really feel like? What’s the driver? Loneliness? Inadequacy? Fear of change? Do you need approval? That’s all things that you’ll need to tackle on your own anyway. Another person might help you to hide those things for a while, but it won’t make you free. I’d say it helps me to not fall into a victim mentality and to cherish the moment. Whatever brings me back to the present moment makes me less involved and my mind less rigid. The present is the only thing that can ever get you unstuck. Haha, how sweet! I can already see, this conversation could go on forever. Don’t feel bad if you just want to cut it off.
  17. @CreamCat Careful not to judge people by their writing style though. A well structured and thought through text might just as well be a neurotic/ controlling pattern... *cough* I actually admire people that can just write down the first thing that comes to their mind without explaining themselves much.
  18. Good! Keep going, it's a life long practice. Hahaha well thank god that's obvious! Not sure if offended or delighted by this remark Now I'm curious though, what's so man-like about my writing?
  19. @carlowillo Great! Keep going for sure! I've done some recipe videos before and just travel clips for myself. It was good practice but nothing that really excited me. Lately, I've been dabbling with the idea of reviewing books. I love books and whenever I watch book reviews I always find that there's something missing, like I want to know things about the book no one ever talks about. Lots of ideas coming in when it comes to that. It always takes me some time to think about those things though before actually doing them. (That's a lie. It takes me forever. And after perfectly planning them out in my head, I never end up doing it. It's a problem. It also doesn't help that I'm a bit camera shy. Damn it!)
  20. @CreamCat I think I can relate. You’re becoming the observer in relationship to everything in your life. I think intimacy entails that you have something you want to share with people. There’s an exchange happening, we’re all mirroring each other all the time so we can define ourselves. But you’re just becoming empty. You don’t feel connected because your ‘self’ is taken out of the game and it’s all just happening. You’re becoming a tool of God. Being isolated can be healthy but it's you who has to feel that difference. Maybe you need it to foster something great. In that case, give yourself some time and try not to judge yourself. Eventually, you’re gonna feel pulled to get out there and give something back. Because on the long term you don’t want to keep yourself cut off from others. By what you’re going through you’re actually gonna be of great help for the people around you. Your acceptance means that you have no (or little) selfish reactivity or agenda. You’re gonna be able to see projections much more clearly and know where to help.
  21. They don't win. I can recommend reading ’Lost Connections' by Johann Hari. The book talks about what our materialistic, scattered society is doing to our mental health (with lots of scientific proof), and possible ways to get out of it. Anyway, there's a chapter called 'Disconnection from meaningful values'. It talks about how we nowadays we are shifting from having meaningful values (doing something because we love it, things that give us flow-states), to having junk values (or extrinsic goals: giving us validation from the outside). I'll just quote you some lines I underlined. “Does achieving extrinsic goals make you happy? And how do they compare to intrinsic goals? The results, when we calculated them out, were quite startling. People who achieved their extrinsic goals didn't experience any increase in day-to-day happiness – none. They spend a huge amount of energy chasing these goals, but when they fulfilled them, they felt the same as they had at the start. Your promotion? Your fancy car? The new iPhone? The expensive necklace? They won't improve your happiness even one inch. But people who did achieve their intrinsic goals (being a more loving father, playing the piano, etc.) did become significantly happier, and less depressed and anxious.” The book states that “materialistic people, who think happiness comes from accumulating stuff and a superior status, had much higher levels of depression and anxiety." “It really did seem that materialistic people were having a worse time, day by day, on all sorts of fronts. They felt sicker and they were angrier. They experienced less joy and more despair.” We're being told happiness is reached by being able to buy lots of nice things. It's like junk food. It appeals to the part of us evolved to need food. But we don't get the nutrition we need out of it. Instead, we literally fill ourselves with toxins. “The first is that thinking extrinsically poisons your relationship with other people.(...) and they found the more materialistic you become, the shorter your relationships will be. If you value people for how they look, or how they impress other people, it's easy to see that you'll be happy to dump them if someone hotter or more impressive comes along.” “If you're doing something not for itself but to achieve an effect, you can't relax into the pleasure of the moment. You're constantly monitoring yourself. Your ego will shriek like alarm you can't shut off. (..) Materialism leaves you constantly vulnerable to a world beyond your control.” “When they talk amongst themselves, advertising people have been admitting since the 1920s that their job is to make people feel inadequate – and then offer their product as the solution to the sense of inadequacy they created.” “We are being propagandised to live in a way that doesn't meet our basic psychological needs: to feel connected, to feel secure, to feel valued, to feel we make a difference in the world. So we are left with a permanent, puzzling sense of dissatisfaction.” Just some food for thought :-) All the best!
  22. @CreamCat You’re not alone feeling that way. The same thing happened to me when I started meditating. I wouldn’t say you’re doing something wrong if you’re ultimately feeling more connected to people. And you do, don’t you? I remember I started to feel equal openness to everyone, like some sort of field where everything/one is equally welcome. I had a hard time ‘ranking’ people or having any preference at all. All was fine. It’s difficult to describe but maybe you’re experiencing the same thing. The question is: Does it feel bad? You’re not obliged to be intimate all the time. (At least physically, or do you mean something else like not being able to open up to people?) There’s a good chance you’re just establishing some base ground for accepting and acknowledging all people equally. From this new vantage point, a lot of new and good things can happen. So maybe you’re doing things just the right way:-)
  23. @Inliytened1 @kieranperez @Leo Gura Thanks for the clarification. I take back what I said about embodiment then! My fault, forgive me Yes. This. And then using non duality to somehow justify it all. "But there's no mind anyway, so why are you even talking" or "It's all your problem". Still doesn’t sit right with me and I stand by that. But hey, maybe I'm the one that is seeing it wrong and I’ll come running one day and I’ll understand much more than I do now. That’s very true, I’ve been holding on to that a bit too long, haven’t I? Thanks for calling me out. I’ll let this go now.