Yali

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  1. @thisintegrated I'd advise you to get your head out of the theory and go and actually talk to people, then come back and reevaluate.
  2. @thisintegrated We're going to have to agree to disagree. Unlike MBTI, Socionics ITR has reflected my personal interactions with people.
  3. @thisintegrated So do you feel I as an INTJ would get along with an ESFJ? CS Joesph thinks so. He thinks we're one of the most compatible pairing, which is laughable because that does not at all reflect my experience with that type. Instead, Socionics hits it on the nail -- http://www.socionics.com/rel/cnf.htm
  4. @thisintegrated Relationship Compatibility.pdf
  5. @thisintegrated I've shared interests with INTPs but I felt our relationship lacking and I assume that's because of a lack of shared cognitive functions. Just because I share common interests, that doesn't mean I like them. We've got common interests to bond over, but otherwise our relationship is mute.
  6. @thisintegrated Yes it does. INTJs and INTPs belong to the same club and share similar interests. But beyond sharing interests, INTJs and INTPs have very little in common. They value opposite functions. https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/clubs/ Clubs are often a common nucleus of spontaneous social interaction (as opposed to "non-spontaneous" as in work, study etc) in modern western societies, and therefore a very common point of formation for social groups, more so than quadras since spontaneous social interaction with new acquaintances tends to be based on common activities and interests if not based on extension of one's close social circle, where quadras are more relevant.
  7. I've had two INTP friends in my life and although we had similar temperaments, we were on totally different wavelengths mentally speaking. Quasi-identical relation: The quasi-identical relation describes two types that are similar in their strengths, weaknesses and energy levels, but opposite in quadra values. These types can appear superficially similar to each other on the outside, but have motivations and values that strongly contrast with each other, making them near opposites on the inside. Despite not being suited to support each other whatsoever, quasi-identicals have a better chance of getting along with each other in contrast to the other opposing quadra relations @thisintegrated
  8. @thisintegrated Ok man, looks like you've got a theory that you feel confident about but it doesn't reflect my life experience. I notice as an INTJ I get along very well with ISFP, ESFP, ENTJ, INTJ whereas INTP,ENTP,ESFJ,ISFJ are fire and ice.
  9. Who'd you learn this from? @thisintegrated
  10. Oh so you're saying functions generate infomation for its opposite function to use, and that's what produces compatibility? @thisintegrated
  11. @thisintegrated I haven't got a clue what you're talking about. We must be getting our information from different sources.
  12. I don't know why you believe opposite values seek each other out. That's like saying an athiest and fundamentalist christain seek each other out. That's non-sense! @thisintegrated
  13. @thisintegrated Yea, and religious theologians have spent more time thinking about God than most of us but they're just as clueless as you.
  14. No, I mean what I say. I think you're misguided. @thisintegrated
  15. @thisintegrated Well those years of research hasn't amounted to much.
  16. Well informed by who? @thisintegrated
  17. This is flat out wrong. Duality is based off sharing the same functions but in opposite order. I don't know who you're getting your knowledge from but I would recommend Typevolution on YouTube. @thisintegrated
  18. I think Socionics Compatibility makes more sense since its based off shared cognitive functions unlike MBTI. How can you expect to get along with someone who doesn't share your values? @thisintegrated
  19. Look at the second video I sent. You can hear the poor guy crying, but instead of attending to his client’s needs, Octavio bullied him into submission. Kicking him, shoving him, yelling at him. I wouldn't be suprised if that'd left him with long-lasting trauma. @bambi
  20. That's like saying an athiest and a fundamentalist Christain would get along because they have opposite values. That's ridiculous! Compatibility comes from sharing the same values, not opposite. Duals don't value opposite congnitive functions but the same functions in opposite order: INTJ (Ni, Te, Fi, Se) - ESFP (Se, Fi, Te, Ni) ISFP (Fi, Se, Ni, Te) - ENTJ (Te, Ni, Se, Fi) INTP (Ti, Ne, Si, Fe) - ESFJ (Fe, Si, Ne, Ti) ENTP (Ne, Ti, Fe, Si) - ISFJ (Si, Fe, Ti, Ne) INFJ (Ni, Fe, Ti, Se) - ESTP (Se, Ti, Fe, Ni) ENFJ (Fe, Ni, Se, Ti) - ISTP (Ti, Se, Ni, Fe) INFP (Fi, Ne, Si, Te) - ESTJ (Te, Si, Ne, Fi) ENFP (Ne, Fi, Te, Si) - ISTJ (Si, Te, Fi, Ne) @thisintegrated
  21. Accepting how you look is a valid self-development area of focus. @BipolarGrowth
  22. @Loba shared cognitive functions = compatibility. https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/intertype_relationships/
  23. @Loba This isn't based off personal experience but what you think to be true. Go meet an ESTJ and see how you get a long. I think it'll work fine since you'll share the same cognitive functions, which is all that matters. With ENFJ, you share no cognitive functions -- probably one of the worst matches contrary to popular opinion. It'd be like pairing an athiest with a fundamentalist christain. How can you expect to get along with NO shared values? Watch this gal. She knows what's she's talking about:
  24. Socionics Intertype Relations theory is very accurate IMO. It should be incorporated into MBTI. @thisintegrated