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This is very similiar to my experiences lately. I've kind of made friends with identity and fear. It's okay that it is. You start to construct your thoughts in a different way. No-one can just "let go" the ego, since it's the ego trying to let go. So why not jusy let go of that and identify and construct the reality in such a way that feels good.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident

Reading the wikipedia article on it, I would say it's kind of Orange integrating and also transcending certain aspects of Blue. Orange is not just cold-blooded rational thinking. There are emotions going on in there. The freedom, the beauty of individuality. Being the hero of your own life.

Watched Leo's latest video. So, I'm God, Love/Infinity/Oneness/Nothingness/Consciousness imagining itself to be a human being, living a life, doing stuff, having a "spiritual awakening", learning about stuff, interacting with other people, struggling, surviving etc, because I'm Love. There is nothing else "to do". I'm entertaining myself with a cosmic drama. For a long time I thought that the illusion was in 'my mind', constructed along the years because of survival. My childhood, all the life experience, has caused me to be stuck in the illusion. But this is part of the illusion, right? Survival, "my mind", "spirituality", "ego", "developmental stages" etc, all part of the illusion? Imagined by Me to keep myself immersed in the cosmic play? What would be the point of spiritual work if there was no struggle? So what the actual fuck is the illusion really? Am I just in complete self-consciousness imagining "an illusion", spirituality, ego and survival for myself, even though there is no such things? I am already in complete God-consciousness, within, imagining a "lesser" consciousness? The stupidest, most clever thing ever, "as if, but not really". Get what I'm asking? Feeling a great beauty and "truthness" as I'm writing this. The latest video really woke up something in me.

I'm very sad and shocked to hear this happened. I have somewhat similiar experience with the mind getting tangled up with spirituality, death and suicide. I can see how the mind gets caught up with such stories. Nasty stuff. It seems that this is not that rare for some reason. This needs to be addressed more. If anyone wishes to gain insight in how these thought-stories are formed, I'm happy to share my story and experiences.

"Ek ong kaar, sat naam, karataa purakh, nirbho, nirvair Akaal moorat, ajoonee, saibhang, gur prasaad. Jap. Aad such, jugaad such, Hai bhee such, Naanak hosee bhee such." Translation: "One Creation. Truth is it’s name. Doer of everything. Fearless, Revengeless, Undying, Unborn, Self illumined, The gift of the universe, Meditate. True in the beginning. True through all the ages. True even now. Oh Nanak it is forever true."

Where would you place yourself on the evolutionary models? Let's say, Wilber's AQAL. Nowadays, are you beyond late vision-logic most of the time? Do you consider supermind as full God-mode? Am I stupid for even asking this?

This was quite an interesting poll, but poorly constructed. You should have defined love. It would be more helpful to ask something like "how often do you feel a sense of unity" or "how often do you sense a metaphysical / spiritual connection".

Infinite identity separated from relative identity is not infinite. It's relative. If I were a zen-master, I would beat you up with a stick and tell you to keep meditating.

This thought once popped up in my mind: People fear sex as much as they fear death.

Please realize that you are very young. I am 22 myself and I have just come to understand better how much age matters. We are both children my friend. The whole puberty thing, school, trying to figure out life, sex... It's not easy. And you are not the only one having trouble, believe me. You have A LOT of time to figure this stuff out. There is no hurry. Relax, things will get better. It's all emotional stuff. Nothing wrong with your life, women, IQ, dick size etc. You just got some emotional blocks. Invest and believe in yourself. Seek a therapist. Read a book. Stop reading low-conscious shit online. If the incel community had anything real to offer, they would not make you sad and suicidal. If you decide to try psychedelics, go easy. Low doses. Don't hurry to "enlightenment" or "higher consciousness". Realize that if you have this need to achieve "spiritual experiences", it's probably due to emotional dysfunction. And try something self-expressive. You could write your thoughts and emotions on a journal. Actually do it, don't just read this. It's very helpful.

Bernie is advocating for healthcare, education and multi-party politics such as in northern europe: Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland. Even most of the main right-wing parties here in Finland hold free healthcare and education pretty much as a no-brainer. The US is the wealthiest country in the history of the mankind. The fact that they have to fight over healthcare insurance means that the system is rotted inside-out by lobbyists and propaganda. Bernie is not radical left.

Not spreading low conscious propaganda about the "radical left" and "military Bernie" would be a good start in order to get the Green and above take action. The whole of human history has basically been one group exploiting another. We need a new kind of human being to grow beyond it.

I see that I can adopt at least two different approaches to awakening/enlightenment. I would like to hear what you think, and which one resonates with you more. The first one seems to be more popular, the "usual" one. This is basically a perspective of "I am a person who can 'become conscious of the truth' or 'awaken' through my own actions, such as meditation, psychedelics, or any other spiritual work." The second one, and this one has just started to emerge in me, is: "roopepa is a dream charcter, and the dream character itself cannot 'wake up', as it is in the nature of the dream character to be a character. Awakefulness is already the case. Enlightenment has nothing to do with spiritual work, meditation, psychedelics, or the actions of the dream character. There is awakefulness already taking place and it cannot be otherwise. There is no-one to awaken. What do you guys think? I think that the second one is a more "evolved" perspective. At least in my experience it seems to build on to the previous one.

@Leo Gura I've wanted to ask you this for a long time: You know that all language, thinking and statements are only partly true, and cannot directly "be" absolutes. When you say things like in this thread, what is the motive behind it? By which standards do you choose what way you express your own experience? Are you trying to form your statements to be as "useful" as possible, even when you know they cannot capture actual "truth"?

What if the consciousness imagines itself to be "a state of consciousness where it imagines being a human being, a living creature"? Is that ego? Is there anything else than ego?

@Nahm Most of what you said just does not compute. Such a weird thing. Waiting for an "a-ha!" moment, trying to figure it out. Such weird feelings come up. Almost crying. There is just this unspeakable, unthinkable crazy what-the-fuckness going on. Feels kinda good, actually.

@WaveInTheOcean

There is awareness of the thought "me". There is also awareness of a thought "it is me who is aware of the thought" and it seems very real. Can't imagine it being any other way. There is an unpleasant feeling in the body. Feeling like staring at a brick wall. Feeling bad because I think it's a failure if I can't understand what you are pointing to. No. I can't point to any thought really. Actually I'm not really sure what "pointing" means. No. They seem very real if believed and focused on but this focus can be shifted and they become "just thoughts", like "a unicorn".

@mandyjw Yeah, I see However I think the most important thing here is that the second perspective feels a lot better, it gives my mind more freedom to shift between different perspectives and seems to make me overall more connected. I sense a truth there that is not present in the previous perspective. Hence I feel that at least for now, it is the right way for me.

Awakening aint got nothing to do with chasing, not chasing, or you. There is witnessing the thinking & writing posts about chasing, not chasing, and enlightenment.

What a joy to hear you doing this, brother. Phil from Actuality of Being. I'd love to see you two having a conversation.

I don't know if this has been discussed here before. I'd like to hear what you guys think about the current opioid crisis in the US and other addiction problems our modern societies face. Millions of people literally cannot stop using alcohol or other drugs on a daily basis. How can we prevent people from using the hard drugs? How can we help those already addicted? What changes need to be made? Give me a shot of that good systems thinking

I once had this super-lucid dream. Walked around and looked at my hands, the buildings, the trees. They were right "here". All the sensations and little details. It was literally as real as me writing this right now. A second later I woke up, did a dream check and yep, I was back in the real world. Then I realized that the only difference between the dream I just had and the world after waking up, was the thoughts "this is a dream" and "this is not a dream". Shapes, sounds, colours, sensations, all were the same 'stuff'. Only the thought changed. I simply saw a dream about waking up.