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No contradiction here. Years of terror pushed Israelis to the right, but before oct7 most Israeli parties supported Two State Solution. I am not trying to convince you of anything, just calmly saying the facts. You may believe it or not.

hamas has succeeded in making the support of a Palestinian state an unpopular stance leaders who supported it in the past now afraid to talk about.

@Hatfort And because people are not stupid they will anyway vote for what they actually love. They knew to put Israel very low in the ranking when the song wasn't good in 2021 and 2022 and to put Israel very high when it was good in 2023 before the war, what shows this is an authentic European voting all along the way. The 20votes are true and available to all the countries equally and all the four Israeli songs in 18', 23', 24' and 25' were very popular in views even before the voting.

@Hatfort Watched it now. I think freedom of speech means that societies and people have the right to show others and truthful sides of theirs, regardless of their governments actions. To not fall into double standard I thought again that maybe Russia should participate too. However I think, at least to this moment, that Russia is a special case in which a boycott is one of the only ways to weaken irreplaceable dictatorial regims, let alone the relatively simple distinction between the aggressor and the oppressed in Ukraine-Russia war, in comparison to the complexity and long history of Israel-Palestinian conflict. Regarding the voting, I see the crowd voting result as authentic and valid for the reasons I mentioned in another thread: Also: 1. The EBU has approved the validity of the voting. 2. Before Netta (Israel) has won in 2018, her song made Israel to be the favorite to win ESC in YouTube and the official site of the polling. This is an organic dynamic. 3. Israel ranked 3rd in the betting odds for Eurovision 2025 right after its song was released - very close to its final 2nd place result.

https://x.com/RonGerlitz1/status/1961111758212399582

Macron's full interview to the Israeli channel about his stance regarding a Palestinian state. https://www.mako.co.il/mako-vod-channel2-news/main-newscast-2025/shorts/Video-91d0514ea0e5991027.htm

@PurpleTree Israelis are often more direct. Sometimes it means less manipulation, less hypocrisy and more warmth. There are pros and cons in every culture.

There is no such thing to be "clean" from all disorders. We are all in a scale. The way we grasp mental conditions IS the problem.

@Raze I live in Israel for 38 years and people from different cultures walk here all the time and get a totally regular humane treat. When you cherry pick only extremists and their disgraceful behaviour to "show" Israel, don't act surprised when Israelis also cherry pick terrorists to show Palestine. You behave in the same way as the Israelis you condemn.

Generally speaking I think the Centrism holds the developmental advantage, but the question is HOW the Centrist statement is produced and what was the thinking process that led to it, whether it came from a fair, nuanced, flexible, changeable, ever-evolving view OR was it rigid, ideological, closed, pre-planned or hesitant one. Only after having a full conversation with someone you can give a clear cut answer.

Macron's full interview to the Israeli channel about his stance regarding a Palestinian state. https://www.mako.co.il/mako-vod-channel2-news/main-newscast-2025/shorts/Video-91d0514ea0e5991027.htm

Netanyahu is fighting on his political survival against Ben Gvir and Smotrich within his far-right coalition. The UN vote can't change that.

Generally speaking, interviews with Piers remind me there is still hope and light in humanity in these dark ages of demonization and generalizations.

@PurpleTree The low lectins diet?

Thanks very interesting. Sounds like he will have to change a bit his mind about fruits after this 😄 or maybe he did already because the video is from Dec23

Mainly about the problems with many legumes and grains though not just that. I am watching now the video.

I know how almost every food affect my mental well being and mood after five years of checking it daily (and keep learning), and I think there is a lot of truth in Dr Gundry's theory. Though not perfect but big part of it. Although each person react differently, still I believe there are commonalities that most people aren't aware enough to recognize.

@Raze Well IDF recruited 360,000 soldiers during this war, at least tens of thousands of them as combatants, many who do hudreds of reserve days with barely seeing their families who are normal families just like yours and mine or family in Europe or the US (imagine it. Humans). And after we zoomed out, yes, many crimes, though by minority. Is there a systemic problem here? For sure. What is the solution, to demonize? I think not. The solution is to target the government and its supporters who encourage the radicalization.

He needs to be put in jail, but he isn't typical though you think he is, and that is exactly my point.

@Raze This is about the typical soldier and typical protestor. At least the soldier - who mostly still doesn't do crimes- risks his own life, while the far left protestor demonizes an entire society risking his voice chords.

@Raze I equated both camps' stances about each other in the way they are mirroring each other cognitively. Nobody justified anything. Read again more carefully before you choose to accuse personally.

I was referring to anti-Israelis / pro-Palestinians / protestors abroad comparing to Israeli soldiers and Israelis. Not about hamas. hamas is far beneath the bar to even be compared to anyone.

@hundreth Soldiers in the field are in a constant survival mode and therefore act from their amygdala. The result is either fear of any Palestinian whatsoever, or an emotional flattening. Does this make their actions justified? Of course not, but it is worth looking at the cycle of dehumanization we can see from the same tweet - soldiers demonize Palestinians and anti Israelis demonize Israelis in the same way and fall to the exact same cognitive traps in their perception of the other side.