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Shabbat Shalom 🍞🍷 @Lila9 Did you also see the Shkedia?

I think Thomas was frustrated from the misleading view of the interviewer and the world crowd opinion that just can't see what we see every day here and he was just so desperate from the opacity of everyone that are hijacked by the anti-Israel propaganda, including the relation to Arabs that is better here in many facets even in comparison to many Arab states around, and the world just don't understand this and keep parroting these nonesense slogans. So he felt he has no choice but to somehow "explode" on him here and it was great he just nailed it. He spoke what every Israeli feels inside him.

hamas wants all the time to get control in the West Bank too, and most of the daily activities of IDF there during all the years are against hamas.

Paid? 😂 The last time I was "paid" by IDF was in 2009 when I got 100$ a month for the shoppings in the market in my base.

UNICF, similar to UNRWA is a totally co operator with terror supporters. I am not an expert on that at all but I have read many evidents to that I will try to find a post I saw just couple of days ago. In meanwhile: https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/unicef-opt-continues-its-partnership-with-terror-tied-groups-and-other-disturbing-developments/

@kenway Yes before the war too it was indeed the most dangerous place to be a child in 📖🗡🧨😵‍💫

A great achievement to Israel. EU demands the releasing of the hostages as a mandatory condition to a ceasefire. Some saneness and a fresh air Israel is so needed to.

👍 A decent point.

I though about it today, and I think there is a problem in the assumption that just because the palestinians are stage red and therefore allegedly more "stupid" (or something similar) they are not responsible for what is happening. Because development is anyway always a relative notion and Israel is also underdeveloped relative to a tier 2 society for example, and we can continue this forever. I am talking about my thinking and not trying to say I am more or less right, but what I think is that even a stage red person still has its infinite brain resources and intelligence to promote its goals. His body for example is still magically incomprehensibly intelligent. So too his brain and mind in the same way. What I am trying to say is that the thought that hamas are just stupid suicial organization is far from the truth. They just aren't developed morally and in their consciousness to themselves and others essense and value, but with their ability to manipulate their way to survive they can still be genius. And they are in a sense. Look how clever their deffense mechanism is in the way thay act physically and getting mixed with civilians and, also (many will argue but) in how they make the crowd opinion be twisted against their enemy. I am not saying Israel doesn't have part in this, but the distance between the accustions against Israel and reality is enormous to my opinion. If we extrapulate this out to the whole conflict, then we cannot any more see the palestinians as just "reactants" to Israel policies, but an active participant in this tango has equal reaponsibility to initiate trust building actions by itself too and not just to cry about things the other side is doing. By the way, they cry, or complain (if to be fair and use a neutral word) equaly and even harder just after revolutionary agreements, what proves that the core of the problem is an inner problem with their mind that try always to preserve his bad homeostasis state (for example the 2nd Intifada after the large series of agreements in the 90's). Every one has equal responsibility to challenge himself and get himself out of an unfunctional disordered situation, be it an inner within him or an outer disorder. Because the truth is, no one can help the palestinians out their disfunctional thinking patterns but themselves. And for the protocol, yes, the Jews, like every other group, have their own weaknesses too, but they are found in another areas.

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+1 🧡 For everybody who is saying Israel can just get in without a very broad scale air phase first.

But by that logic, what lead to the second Intifada with suicide bombings twice a week in the early 2000's was Oslo agreement (1993), Oslo 2nd agreement (1995), Hebron agreement (1997), Y agreement (1998), Camp David negotiation (2000)... By using I mean it was pre-trapped (before the war) and the logic behind that is that in the same way hamas has invested every second since 2005 to build a 400 km length tunnels city, it also has invested in trapping entire neighborhoods all across the Gaza strip way before the war started. What I think is that just like the undergroung tunnels-city, also this was already made before the war. I agree with you in this logic but the question is, if this is really the case in Gaza because according to the ever arming-race of hamas the situation there is, I think, very different. Why do you think that?

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1. 10,000s terror targets to attack. 2. hamas number one survival strategy to use, disguise and assimilate among civilians. 3. hamas interest to always maximize civilians casualties to make Israel stop because they know this is our weakness. 4. ~40% of those 24,000 are hamas combatants. 5. PTSD condition from oct 7th + 30 years accumulated frustration from terror attacks and how the virus twists the accusation on Israel when the world believe him more every time, made Israel to maybe behave somehow in a looser way this time, but the attacks were still, I think, on terror targets anyway. 100% of them? Well I hope but I can't know. But even if I just think on this in a dry logical way there are so many terror targets, then why to attack something else. The weapon is still limited.

To kill civilians?? Never heard of that, and I have never educated to do such of thing. Sound crazy to me. Our teachers talked with us about Israel establishment, Israel wars, the peace agreement we made and the hope there will be peace with syria and we will can even go to Damascus I remeber this well I was in 6th grade. I dont know what you saw in the interivews of the far right wing people who are 1% to 5% at most.

@Karmadhi I can take your what I think a sickingly twisted logic and say what you ARE in denial about and filter out: 1. The fact that Israel built a 1 Billion dollar smart fence out of the fantasy the thecnology will prevent wars. 2, Israel let Thousands of Gazans to work in its areas for years out of the hope it will make them moderate. 3. Israel did more than 10 careful operations with good surgicality lead to anything but worsen the situation in the long term. 4. Israelis soldiers are many of them boys in theirs 18-22 years that are also humen being with broad heart and worried mothers and familiy that are putting their lives in a serious risk in one of the most dangerous areas in the world. Thousands of them are doing that right now for more than 3 months straight. 5. The fact that almost no other military warned civilians so many time in many ways before their attacks. 6. The fact that a hostage suffering is X100 times harder than any other soldier or citizen from both sides. Imagine have a gun on your head for 100 days when you never know when the bullet will be shot on you and if it will. 130 of them. Now imagine this is one of your friends or family members. 7. The fact that Gaza kids are indoctrinate into killing and suicide from birth and already been damaged psychologically to a mental condition not less severe than any other mental disorders and need an urgent recovery if such a recovery is even possible, Million of them. Where was the world when that happened during all those years before the war?

1. Is this can put enough pressure on hamas leaders to make them agree to free the hostages? 2. Isn't only a real threat on those leaders life and hamas's military capabilities the only possible option to make them do so? 3. Israel did more than 10 surgical intelligence operations in the last 18 years and it only lead to oct 7th. But if those homes were indeed used by hamas to their purposes? I read an article in which an Israel soldiers says that hamas is found in every or almost every building. Even if we assume this is exaggarated, can it be though a plausible scenario in such a culture? I found it: https://www.timesofisrael.com/irresponsibility-compounds-catastrophe-why-the-idfs-war-against-hamas-has-lost-momentum/ "The tactics caused devastation in northern Gaza, where Hamas had booby-trapped “every other house,” in the words of IDF officials." I understand you and respect that. But then again, are civil neighborhoods in Gaza really sterile and doesn't used as fortifications of hamas? I got the impression many of them are that way. I agree it was counter productive there. But I fear we don't have another choice right now because of the hostages.

@Leo Gura I have listened to this video. You are also right this is indeed a counter story to the one I wrote and I think both of them are right. Then what do you suggest IDF to do? IDF can go with this and decide it won't bomb anything, but then the soldiers will be killed like sitting ducks or domino cubes in many hundreds every month. I have also a question. If that mother would asked to leave the building 3 days before it was bombed it was ok? Because honestly this is what happened all the time during this war. And another question why the Israeli side is "insanly biased" but the side who critisize her so harshly is not? I bet every western society would react just the same because it really seems to me inevitable in such a trappy situation.

👍 Another good interesting point I didn't think about.

@kenway Since Tel Aviv, contrary to Gaza, is not a well-fortified terror base been well prepared with many traps in every single neighborhood for 18 years to the day my soldiers will invade to there, so there is no point in bombing it first, and a ground invasion will be enough in Tel Aviv.

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@kenway You are inventing now a narrative based on fragments of cases in the periphery that do not have any connection to your story you are forcefully trying to compose. I won't co-operate with this and I can't compete with imaginary ideas. You are free to think whatever you want anyway.

@lina If a baby from your village was burned alive and some of your friends or family would taken hostages with a gun to their head every day for 100 days you would do exactly the same as Israel and chasing those murderers with the maximum pressure possible until you bring them back.

@kenway hamas is to blame in that we cornered to do our best to rescue our hostages, and the citizens casualities are still not intentional. Sorry to tell you. Exactly what you would do if your friends or family were held hostage.