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Do you want to upgrade it?
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Ok now I understand. its actually imprinting the way of thinking (and neurological patterns) into students minds through education rather than just tell a story.
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Lets say we have two persons - one is (mainly) blue and one is green. On average, their values of the both are a result of their family, environment and education, and were given to them with a spoon directly to their mouth. So, Why that the green one will be superior cognetively? He is not. He has not built by himself any more complex neurological pathways because of his values, he was not sweating more, he just has given its values as a content or as a story. Yes, in both sides there are people who are more autodidact and may have superiority in cognition because they develop their brain by themselves, but than can happen pretty equally (statistically) with the both colors, so this parameter offsets itself.
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? Yes developed is more accurate you are right
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@Leo Gura but if I grew in a realively green city and family, and cause of this - I'm very green. How does it makes me more neurologically sophisticated than blue? I didnt developed my brain flexibilty independently more than blue had. I just absorb a story (content) of flexible values, but didnt necessarily developed structural flexibility And if I did, how?
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How was your awakening experience, and What did you think at those moments? If you can share even only it - great. If you remember more, the question is - What were the levels of realization that built what you think today? For example: 1.Last year I firstly felt in my direct experience that I have no control of my thinking and for me it was kind of basic or newbie form of awakening. 2. After three months I had an additional realization that when I try to accept my feeling, I'm still not fully accept because of the trying Itself (awakening 1.1.2). 3. ... 4. ... 5. And thats why I realized we are god (Me personally not there yet. Also maybe it happened to you only in stage 11. it just an example). Why is it important? The vast majority of awakening shares mention almost only the end point of the process ("I realized I am god") and because of that, it is very difficult and not much helpful for people to be motivated because its all high above their head. I feel that I really want to know if other people also realized what I realized, because it will strength the validity (sense of realness) of what I felt and may encourage me. Thats MY personal motivation for this thread. But maybe it will be helpful to you too for another reasons. If people will share all the tiers of their awakening process, we gonna have a spiritual MAP that can be super helfull to people to know approximately were they are. Of course, NOT to replace inner work, but to strength people in the process, motivate them, make them feel less alone, make their realizations feel more real to them (because other people realized it too) etc. But one important rule for this thread - Not psychedelics triggered awakenings. Only awakening that were spontaneous or during spiritual exercises. Why? Because Psychedelics moves you directly from A to F, and the whole point of this thread is to make ourselves see also the B, C and E.
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Is oat also genetically modified worldwidely (like wheat for example) or it is usually free from that?
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@King Merk thanks!
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@Leo Gura I just sent you a private message about this topic.
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Sounds very interesting. Walking can be a great spiritual practice in my opinion.
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I used to frame people easily in the first couple of months knowing the model (beginning of 2019). Today I am much more careful. It is much tricky than we think.
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Everytime you have a tough thought - prepare yourself tea/chocolate drink/something simple to eat, and drink it slowly, feel the taste, enjoy the taste, the warmth of it ☕? Tell yourself "Everything I think is OK. The thoughts just come. Everyone have crazy toughts! It just that the OCD make them FEEL more emotionally intense". And Treat yourself with love. And keep drink slowly. Walk slowly inside the house/outside and look outside on the trees, flowers, birds as you keep drinking (slowly!!)?? I struggle with OCD too for years and also pure O (almost only in my head) I know what I say. Also: therapist, friends, family. Tell someone you trust what you have. Dont lock it all in your stomach.
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How did you overcome OCD?
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You dont "deal", you just talk with them and listen to them and be interested in them. And B. You dont know if you are "above" someone in SD. You can only see one issue the person externalized (for example - conservativism). Since SD is stractural based model (and NOT content) you cannot know to what colors and how % of them the person has reached just using his head and his thoughts. Consevatism for example can hint you a center of gravity of him but you have to be very very careful cause you really dont know enough. He can still have 18% of yellow and 6% of turquoise for example (or even more). Only violent people or dictatorship leaders are more clear in their location on SD. Treat everyone as basically equal.
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Maybe you right, at least partially. This forum dehumanizes trump to the extreme. Be aware of that maybe trump with his mentality has larger chance to understand middle eastern thinking better than green and even than yellow people.
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By 'distraction' do you mean - from inner work?
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Like one level up relative to my first experience last summer that was weaker and not as clear. What happened today is that I tried again to accept the negative feeling I had (I am in a negative phase this month), because I know that acceptance is the right way. So I tried to do the "Acceptance" on the current negative feeling I have. After couple of minutes I finished a small purchase in the supermarket, came out, and then I realized - OH, but if to be sincere, all I just did right now (to accept the negative feeling) was in the aim of feeling better. Which means, in a deeper level (?) I was resisting the feeling! I DID try to accept it, but it was from a desire to make the negative feeling go weaker and disappear. Even if there was acceptance its only a shallow version. And then I realized - There is nothing I can do to "accept", becuase everything I will ever try to do to "accept", will be in the aim of feeling better. in other words - hidden resistance to the bad feeling. When I realised it - I just released it. Ok. I Can't do nothing. I'll don't try nothing. In that moment I felt I have reached a new level of "releasing", and then the feeling became better! The interesting thing is that I quite knew about that principle in the content level even before, but I couldn't benefit from it. Only today I felt I reached it in the stractural level and convinced my subconsious mind. Like see the exact berrier as a content or story, is SO different than actually meet it stracturally in real time and passing it.
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Leo gives great hope in managing and reducing mental conditions and illnesses without medication. He challenges the mainstream thinking and thats gives strength to people. And to me too. And I really believe that medication will be needed less and less maybe until zero as you grow in your consciouseness during the years. Of course, generally speaking, i dont agree with everything Leo says and I always try to not just to adopt but think and if it doesnt fit to me I dont adopt it. But I try to keep an open mind.
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Always. And you will have more and stronger ego backlashes until you (and me) learn the lesson the inner child wants to teach us, and that is you are a vulnerable child always and in any age. You are also equal to your friends and family and never above your environment. This night i had 20-30 minutes of crying which during them I felt re-integrated again to my inner child. Now i understands that i felt many months that i am a little "above" my family. Its not that i really thought this in a rational way absolutely not. But i had a subtle FEELING all the time the I like felt that i am above them or knows more and etc. After this reintegration I feel now more pure, more child, and more equal to my parents and family and this is a great feeling. Feels far more healthy. And my anxiety reduced. I hope its ok just to share and show here my insights and feelings. I post it not only because it is very significant to me, but also because i think it can be valuable also to other people here.
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Do you mean "better in x", "above in y"? Just "I am above you" does not exist. "I am above you in x and in y" - 2 out of hundreds and thousands of parameters - does.
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❤ thanks a lot! Happy to hear
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More knowledge is a different thing than going meta and see the bigger picture from a zoomed out perspective.
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Personally I feel very high resonance with the content Leo share, and some of it I experienced and tought for my experience even before I heard from it in any source (for example the system fights back after you start do behavioural therapy agaisnt anxiety). Still many things Leo give are new for me and enrichs me a lot! Last couple of videos are less resonate with me. Maybe its just because of the content. Only Leo knows what he really feels and I think as long as he takes into account many resources, not falling into the "feeling above" trap, and into the "pursuit more enlightenment" trap which transmits the subconscious mind that you are not good enough now - he will be Ok. Thats my opinion. More traps in my opinion are: Solipsism. Isolation psychologically and physically from other human beings. I dont know if Leo fell into it I just mention whats most potentially problematic from my point of view.
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This remind me perfectly also someone else...
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You say in other words that excitement and fireworks must reduce and be replaced by a calm version of happines. More like to be child again?
