Nivsch

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  1. If we want to be even more fair we want to see everyone as super intelligent nature's creation. Just to think about how intelligent is our body in how it balance all the process within it etc. we tend to underestimate it especially in the west and in how we think of our health And from that position try to look at every human being and give him more credit. But that insight emphasizes even more the importance of demanding equal responsibility from both sides in a conflict.
  2. @royce I really try to use my own words as much as I can but english is also limited 🙃
  3. @royce What is going on here is that the Palestinians in the end of the day get unproportionally easier "pass" to their actions because they are, in average, less evolved so they being treated like a child, whereas the Israelis are being demanded for full responsibility, also unproportionally, out of their more evolved position. But this paradigm is very limited and even almost completely false because the more evolved side cannot control nor educate the less evolved one, and therefore cannot be holded as more responsible then him in an atmosphere of conflict, beside a little bit because he can manage better his emotions, but also only a little better. In a family for example, this is different because the less evolved side wants to hear. Also, the less evolved one is NOT less smart in his ability to turn day into night if this helps him to survive, and people overlook this too, because in survival we are all equally smart, and therefore do not understand the sophisticated ways it uses to achieve its goal.
  4. It is harder to make the most smart move for yourself and for the surrounding the bigger your PTSD from terror becomes.
  5. I understand what you say here. Because a human is a human and no one is above anyone else. Isn't nationalism sometimes just an unavoidable and a legitimate protective mechanism against really toxic forces that otherwise would affect the society if it wasn't nationalistic? Because again if we choose to be the most truthfull, we might collapse ourselves and then we will must be even less truthfull (then we were in the nationalism state) in order to survive.
  6. Our method is based on a coalition of diverse parties, not only from the deep right wing. Most of the time Netanyahu's coalition was a mixture which was more moderate in average. Two years ago we had a different governemt for a short period. Also Netanyahu is very charismatic and know how to kidnapp the crowd.
  7. But why not to have? Is this a problem in your opinion? And why? After all this Israeli identity is what, I think, protects women, LGBTQ and individual right. Without this identity I dont know how those values were able to be applied and protected. Anyway the Center Left are always fully for two state solution, at least until oct 7th for sure. Now this is a bit more complicated I guess.
  8. I think this kind of thinking you described applies to the deep right wing. In my surrounding circles of family and friends, education, meetings, even conversation within the party "yesh atid" (in the center-left sector) I like to discuss sometimes because they are very reasonable, I have never tackled this kind of talking like really. Yes, in more broad circles I hear sometimes people who are not moral and have no problem to "destroy them all" even from people who I know they are good and sensitive people when I talk to them on private! But then I remember he was hiding in his home when terrorists came to his town in oct 7th and I really cannot blame him.
  9. I don't know. The education I got, that was the formal one, encouraged us to want peace. To say to you there wont be militant voices here? I can't. I am curious to know how would you react if your town was massacared and civilians from the massacare's country ware celebrate this with candies in their streets. Actully I am not curious becasue the answer is simple - of course you would dehumanized them.
  10. You are invited to bring here examples you think on.
  11. Yes a great tribe with the most mutual help and worry to each other I have ever seen.
  12. All of these you think this is IDF policy only in this war or also before? I am not denying too loose actions from soldiers that are happening. In the other hand I have never heard about an army that does or did a cleaner war in such a tough and dangerous field. Not that I dont think it doesn't need to be improved because it is. But if you take out the current trauma response from the equation and look on the previous operations, I really don't think there is an army that did such diverse tactics (parachuted massages, knocks on roofs and more) to ensure civilians lives like IDF did.
  13. @royce You don't have to read who you think is biased. Make your own claims.
  14. @Karmadhi hamas goal is to destroy civilians lives....
  15. 😂 Poor SS officer in ww2. He didn't want to kill Jews at all. Just to deffent himself, and look what the Great Britian do to him.
  16. @Karmadhi You have to kill 40,000+ hamas terrorists in this war. How technological-intelligence accuracy abillities will help so much in that?
  17. How do you know this is really the case in the policy level? What can you as a soldier do when you know that hamas will necessarily disguise itself to civilians all the time?
  18. Speaking on ideology yes. I meant to the ones who are considered as the operational targets.
  19. @Karmadhi In 2024 there are also super sophisticated gerilla organization what wasn't in 1944.
  20. @Karmadhi Your reasoning is wrong because murder doesnt equal collateral damage. By your logic, Great Britian did Genocide to Nazi Germany in ww2.
  21. @Karmadhi hamas = the armed terrorists.
  22. @Karmadhi This exactly matches the math. Terror attack its a scale. Israel already went through hundreds of terror attacks and responded reasonably. This time went very far with the material damage and collective punishment, but still light years away from Genojoke.
  23. @Thought Art This is not the case at all. This is not reasonable at all claim to say. The killed ratio is 1:1 or 1:1.5 betweem hamas that hides behind civilians and civilians. The brainwashing idustry of the other side is cartoonishly toxic and you just swallow it.
  24. @zazen The truth is that your western country would react quite the same if undergo such trauma came after 20 previous polite trials before that to address its attackers source.
  25. Feels to me like he wanted to counter balance somehow the unjustness and lack of understanding of us (Israelis) and Israel in general. sometimes you have to shout to exceed louder voices. At least this resonate with how I feel often towards this issue.